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eccles said:
Skyedriver said:
Ditched the series link on th TV recorder, programme is just too painful to watch, the end product whilst admirable to go EV is actually pretty useless, no carrying capacity, much heavier so handling and balance WILL be affected. Doesn't convince me that the way to go is to EV an ICEngined vehicle
And yet they clearly stated in the show that the Ferrari was 20kg lighter than standard and they'd made the weight distribution 50/50 instead of the original 40/60.....CanAm said:
The guy on the show reckoned the 308 was too light at the front so it understeered, and his new 50/50 weight distribution cured that!
Ah well, we can't all be driving gods who would notice a shift from 43/57 to 50/50 in a 45-year-old chassis.
The Ferrari had 130w head lamp bulbs to begin with.
IIRC those were illegal anyway.
ETA.
If you really want a car that handles well, don't bother with those amateurs in Italy.
What you need is a guy on an industrial estate in the middle of Wales with a country lane for a test track.
IIRC those were illegal anyway.
ETA.
If you really want a car that handles well, don't bother with those amateurs in Italy.
What you need is a guy on an industrial estate in the middle of Wales with a country lane for a test track.
Edited by Jazzy Jag on Friday 7th August 14:04
Jazzy Jag said:
The Ferrari had 130w head lamp bulbs to begin with.
IIRC those were illegal anyway.
ETA.
If you really want a car that handles well, don't bother with those amateurs in Italy.
What you need is a guy on an industrial estate in the middle of Wales with a country lane for a test track.
Yeah, because all performance cars leave the factory handling like a dream, and just can't be improved on....IIRC those were illegal anyway.
ETA.
If you really want a car that handles well, don't bother with those amateurs in Italy.
What you need is a guy on an industrial estate in the middle of Wales with a country lane for a test track.
Edited by Jazzy Jag on Friday 7th August 14:04
waynecyclist said:
CanAm said:
The new owner of the car was quoted £60k to £65k for the conversion.
That is nuts, for £65K you could repair the engine and buy a SH ev job doneI don't get it.....if the engine was nicked, surely it would be an insurance job to have another engine fitted given the car value...?
Or did they write it off and this guy has bought from the salvage company for 10k or whatever?
In which case, what ever its cost him is about the same as just buying a running 308 in the first place.
You really, really, really have to be seriously into your 1:1 scale Scalextrix cars to blow this king of dosh on something like this....
eccles said:
Skyedriver said:
Ditched the series link on th TV recorder, programme is just too painful to watch, the end product whilst admirable to go EV is actually pretty useless, no carrying capacity, much heavier so handling and balance WILL be affected. Doesn't convince me that the way to go is to EV an ICEngined vehicle
And yet they clearly stated in the show that the Ferrari was 20kg lighter than standard and they'd made the weight distribution 50/50 instead of the original 40/60.....Sorry the whole programme is a load of "for TV" b
ksJazzy Jag said:
The Ferrari had 130w head lamp bulbs to begin with.
IIRC those were illegal anyway.
I wondered about that, but I think he was talking about the power they consume rather than the light output. IIRC those were illegal anyway.
Richard-390a0 said:
& yet again another episode that ended before the car was completed. I noticed the "test fit for when they become legal" led lamps were still in that first 308 on the road test as you could see how bright the brake lights were lol.
I think that was some flannel to stave off internet comments about fitting illegal lights. They made a point of talking about covering paint to save from grinding spatter damage, which they'd not been bothered about before.Funnily enough it did set me wondering about whether an electric conversion of one of my Vauxhalls might be feasible. I reckon the smaller motor would be plenty, as it's around 125bhp originally, and there's a fair amount of room above that, and where the fuel tank sits, and below the estate false boot floor, for batteries. The cost stops me, though.
Richard-390a0 said:
Did anyone else catch the Lancia Fulvia episode last night?. Let's just say it's still not a good advert for their quility of workmanship.
I got a reminder that the show was back. I decided to ignore it as everything they’ve done so far has been dire and I couldn’t see it improving. Smollet said:
Richard-390a0 said:
Did anyone else catch the Lancia Fulvia episode last night?. Let's just say it's still not a good advert for their quility of workmanship.
I got a reminder that the show was back. I decided to ignore it as everything they’ve done so far has been dire and I couldn’t see it improving. Interesting comment above about the weight of the Ferrari, as the Fulvia ended up considerably heavier and was fitted with stronger springs all round. I think they said 250kg of batteries despite a range of just over 100 miles. Oh, and the customer when asked about his requirements said he'd be willing to pay around £40,000, which they said would be ok!
Their website says that they utilise used Tesla batteries!
Out of interest I googled the Karmann Ghia shown in the opening titles; it's still registered as a petrol engine, with tax expiring August 2019.
Their website says that they utilise used Tesla batteries!
Out of interest I googled the Karmann Ghia shown in the opening titles; it's still registered as a petrol engine, with tax expiring August 2019.
aeropilot said:
Smollet said:
Richard-390a0 said:
Did anyone else catch the Lancia Fulvia episode last night?. Let's just say it's still not a good advert for their quility of workmanship.
I got a reminder that the show was back. I decided to ignore it as everything they’ve done so far has been dire and I couldn’t see it improving. 21st Century Man said:
I caught a few minutes of the tail end of this. Christ! You're not wrong! It's just bodgery turned up to 11. Why on earth would they show the footage of stuff that's obviously really REALLY crap, rather than edit it out and not use it?
What bodgery are you referring to ?V8covin said:
21st Century Man said:
I caught a few minutes of the tail end of this. Christ! You're not wrong! It's just bodgery turned up to 11. Why on earth would they show the footage of stuff that's obviously really REALLY crap, rather than edit it out and not use it?
What bodgery are you referring to ?No edge binding, no trim piece to tuck it under, not even positioned neatly up to a door aperture rubber or something, or running a cigarette lighter along it to at least seal the (what is no doubt polyester) warp and weft to each other at the edge so it's not like unraveling a knitted jumper everytime it's picked at to tidy it up. It'll be unglued and frayed scruffy and ragged along the edge in next to no time. I cut up a domestic carpet offcut to do the cab floor in my ratty old LDV Convoy to a significantly better standard than that load of old crap. I find it genuinely baffling, a toddler with some scissors and a tin of evo stick could've done better. Why show it?
Richard-390a0 said:
Did anyone else catch the Lancia Fulvia episode last night?. Let's just say it's still not a good advert for their quility of workmanship.
It's bodgers in a shed isn't it?Hope they do a better job checking their battery modules than they do with everything else, they do have some issues if you're tempted to do a pick & mix and put them back into an EV. Though I guess for the toys they build no one will run them for long enough to find out.
I’ve literally just watched it and I’m sure he did tuck it in under the door seal? It looked very nice and he looked like he knew what he was doing. Much better at my attempts over the years with carpets.
At the end of the day, this was a 30second clip of several hours work, so it’s probably a bit unrealistic and unfair to judge the standard of work from this?
At the end of the day, this was a 30second clip of several hours work, so it’s probably a bit unrealistic and unfair to judge the standard of work from this?
Edited by stuartmmcfc on Sunday 10th January 12:18
21st Century Man said:
I might assume you have your tongue in your cheek? But if not, the clip that showed a bare cut edge of carpet being spray adhesived to a sill top for one.
No edge binding, no trim piece to tuck it under, not even positioned neatly up to a door aperture rubber or something, or running a cigarette lighter along it to at least seal the (what is no doubt polyester) warp and weft to each other at the edge so it's not like unraveling a knitted jumper everytime it's picked at to tidy it up. It'll be unglued and frayed scruffy and ragged along the edge in next to no time. I cut up a domestic carpet offcut to do the cab floor in my ratty old LDV Convoy to a significantly better standard than that load of old crap. I find it genuinely baffling, a toddler with some scissors and a tin of evo stick could've done better. Why show it?
The carpet fitting was the only bodgery I noticedNo edge binding, no trim piece to tuck it under, not even positioned neatly up to a door aperture rubber or something, or running a cigarette lighter along it to at least seal the (what is no doubt polyester) warp and weft to each other at the edge so it's not like unraveling a knitted jumper everytime it's picked at to tidy it up. It'll be unglued and frayed scruffy and ragged along the edge in next to no time. I cut up a domestic carpet offcut to do the cab floor in my ratty old LDV Convoy to a significantly better standard than that load of old crap. I find it genuinely baffling, a toddler with some scissors and a tin of evo stick could've done better. Why show it?
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