Loan car dash cam
Discussion
NewUsername said:
vikingaero said:
Equally it's their courtesy car - they can do what they want.
If I make up a rule that everyone visiting my dealership has to wear something yellow, then it's my choice how (badly) I want to run my company.
I’m afraid that simply isn’t the case. On both pointsIf I make up a rule that everyone visiting my dealership has to wear something yellow, then it's my choice how (badly) I want to run my company.
Thanks.
Initforthemoney said:
NewUsername said:
vikingaero said:
Equally it's their courtesy car - they can do what they want.
If I make up a rule that everyone visiting my dealership has to wear something yellow, then it's my choice how (badly) I want to run my company.
I’m afraid that simply isn’t the case. On both pointsIf I make up a rule that everyone visiting my dealership has to wear something yellow, then it's my choice how (badly) I want to run my company.
No need, GDPR info is available for all to see, in fact already linked on this thread.
In terms of the attitude of “its my business I’ll run it how I want that just isn’t the case.”
A very simple example is of the Bakers who refused to make a wedding cake for a same sex couple. The baker was ruled against in court. So no just because it’s your business you cannot run it how you please.
Thanks.
Driver101 said:
Dog Star said:
Driver101 said:
I wouldn't use a dealer that wanted to fit a dashcam to a car they loaned me.
Why?Wouldn’t bother me in the slightest.
All this is a storm in a teacup imo; it's not like there is some spotty little low-level tech back at the dealership with a tent in his pants just imagining what juicy details you might have incidentally recorded onto one of their dashcams. I doubt they even get looked at unless there is an issue with the car or it's involved in an accident.
parabolica said:
Driver101 said:
Dog Star said:
Driver101 said:
I wouldn't use a dealer that wanted to fit a dashcam to a car they loaned me.
Why?Wouldn’t bother me in the slightest.
All this is a storm in a teacup imo; it's not like there is some spotty little low-level tech back at the dealership with a tent in his pants just imagining what juicy details you might have incidentally recorded onto one of their dashcams. I doubt they even get looked at unless there is an issue with the car or it's involved in an accident.
parabolica said:
So don't conduct business in a vehicle given to you by a dealer?
Not the point. How secure is the data? Etc etc. The data protection laws exist for a reason. Also in the OP the op wasn’t given the choice to make that decision because he wasn’t informed.
The garage are on exceptionally dodgy ground
parabolica said:
. I doubt they even get looked at unless there is an issue with the car or it's involved in an accident.
It took how long before someone made the most obvious point!!!This is just a classic case of dealers wising up to the "it's a loan car I'll abuse it" mentality that so many people seem to have.
It's actually quite funny that people are now mentioning GDPR, what do you think the OP Is doing in this car?? Is he driving around reading out a list of his own/ other people's names, addresses, bank account details, name of their cat, where they go on holiday, what the 4th letter of their memorable place is, clearly not.
aka_kerrly said:
parabolica said:
. I doubt they even get looked at unless there is an issue with the car or it's involved in an accident.
It took how long before someone made the most obvious point!!!This is just a classic case of dealers wising up to the "it's a loan car I'll abuse it" mentality that so many people seem to have.
It's actually quite funny that people are now mentioning GDPR, what do you think the OP Is doing in this car?? Is he driving around reading out a list of his own/ other people's names, addresses, bank account details, name of their cat, where they go on holiday, what the 4th letter of their memorable place is, clearly not.
Phone banking details, security details on phone payments, listening to phone key tones for passcodes. Doctors/Social security information, business security information. All stuff that can be aurally mined if the driver is using hands free and going about their normal business. Obviously if you had been made aware of the item and signed the relevant agreement then this can be mitigated.
This garage could potentially be in serious trouble
Edited by NewUsername on Sunday 22 September 18:18
Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if the loan car stated in very clear lettering that cars are fitted with dashcams, most people don’t read them.
Not having the memory card secured is a bit silly though. I guess they think that most people aren’t like the OP and arent going to pull off the footage and scour through it in the hope of finding some crumb of information tbh.
Not having the memory card secured is a bit silly though. I guess they think that most people aren’t like the OP and arent going to pull off the footage and scour through it in the hope of finding some crumb of information tbh.
Driver101 said:
I wouldn't use a dealer that wanted to fit a dashcam to a car they loaned me.
I am sure most people would have an issue with the dashcam. Equally I doubt many dealers would even think their customers will be happy with the dashcam and wouldn't date fit one.
It's a step too far.
I think you find it the other way most people wouldn't care if the loan car had a dahcamI am sure most people would have an issue with the dashcam. Equally I doubt many dealers would even think their customers will be happy with the dashcam and wouldn't date fit one.
It's a step too far.
Chris32345 said:
Driver101 said:
I wouldn't use a dealer that wanted to fit a dashcam to a car they loaned me.
I am sure most people would have an issue with the dashcam. Equally I doubt many dealers would even think their customers will be happy with the dashcam and wouldn't date fit one.
It's a step too far.
I think you find it the other way most people wouldn't care if the loan car had a dahcamI am sure most people would have an issue with the dashcam. Equally I doubt many dealers would even think their customers will be happy with the dashcam and wouldn't date fit one.
It's a step too far.
NewUsername said:
Chris32345 said:
Driver101 said:
I wouldn't use a dealer that wanted to fit a dashcam to a car they loaned me.
I am sure most people would have an issue with the dashcam. Equally I doubt many dealers would even think their customers will be happy with the dashcam and wouldn't date fit one.
It's a step too far.
I think you find it the other way most people wouldn't care if the loan car had a dahcamI am sure most people would have an issue with the dashcam. Equally I doubt many dealers would even think their customers will be happy with the dashcam and wouldn't date fit one.
It's a step too far.
It’s potentially illegal behaviour to not inform you and obtain your consent.
They also should have an available Privacy Policy which tells you what will happen to your data, how it is stored, how long it will be retained for and how you obtain a copy.
They should also have a Data Privacy Impact Assessment for this activity.
Arguments about the realism of them viewing it are irrelevant.
The OP mentions that other people’s recordings are also present. They are failing to secure personal information.
You could report them to the ICO if you can be bothered.
Alternatively, you could remove the SD card and wipe it. You haven’t signed anything (you say) in reference to the camera so they have no recourse against you.
They also should have an available Privacy Policy which tells you what will happen to your data, how it is stored, how long it will be retained for and how you obtain a copy.
They should also have a Data Privacy Impact Assessment for this activity.
Arguments about the realism of them viewing it are irrelevant.
The OP mentions that other people’s recordings are also present. They are failing to secure personal information.
You could report them to the ICO if you can be bothered.
Alternatively, you could remove the SD card and wipe it. You haven’t signed anything (you say) in reference to the camera so they have no recourse against you.
The_Nugget said:
It’s potentially illegal behaviour to not inform you and obtain your consent.
Oh yes. The_Nugget said:
They also should have an available Privacy Policy which tells you what will happen to your data, how it is stored, how long it will be retained for and how you obtain a copy.
They should also have a Data Privacy Impact Assessment for this activity.
Arguments about the realism of them viewing it are irrelevant.
The OP mentions that other people’s recordings are also present. They are failing to secure personal information.
You could report them to the ICO if you can be bothered.
Alternatively, you could remove the SD card and wipe it. You haven’t signed anything (you say) in reference to the camera so they have no recourse against you.
Thrash away and delete the SD...They should also have a Data Privacy Impact Assessment for this activity.
Arguments about the realism of them viewing it are irrelevant.
The OP mentions that other people’s recordings are also present. They are failing to secure personal information.
You could report them to the ICO if you can be bothered.
Alternatively, you could remove the SD card and wipe it. You haven’t signed anything (you say) in reference to the camera so they have no recourse against you.
I would download all the recordings from the SD card then contact the ICO as it's not on covertly recording private conversations.
https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/your-personal-...
https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/your-personal-...
Edited by untakenname on Sunday 22 September 19:17
vikingaero said:
Maybe the garage have thought it through and DISABLED audio? #PHhysteria
Most dashcams I have/have owned/have tinkered with have the option to disable audio.
We can only go on the OP who says no privacy statement and audio recordings etc. Most dashcams I have/have owned/have tinkered with have the option to disable audio.
Maybe they have, maybe they haven’t but even if they have there are still GDPR issues and they are acting illegally .
The_Nugget said:
It’s potentially illegal behaviour to not inform you and obtain your consent.
They also should have an available Privacy Policy which tells you what will happen to your data, how it is stored, how long it will be retained for and how you obtain a copy.
They should also have a Data Privacy Impact Assessment for this activity.
Arguments about the realism of them viewing it are irrelevant.
The OP mentions that other people’s recordings are also present. They are failing to secure personal information.
You could report them to the ICO if you can be bothered.
Alternatively, you could remove the SD card and wipe it. You haven’t signed anything (you say) in reference to the camera so they have no recourse against you.
No potentially illegal about it, it’s absolutely illegal!They also should have an available Privacy Policy which tells you what will happen to your data, how it is stored, how long it will be retained for and how you obtain a copy.
They should also have a Data Privacy Impact Assessment for this activity.
Arguments about the realism of them viewing it are irrelevant.
The OP mentions that other people’s recordings are also present. They are failing to secure personal information.
You could report them to the ICO if you can be bothered.
Alternatively, you could remove the SD card and wipe it. You haven’t signed anything (you say) in reference to the camera so they have no recourse against you.
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