Electric vehicle? No driveway? No problem

Electric vehicle? No driveway? No problem

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RizzoTheRat

25,308 posts

194 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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Strange. You guys must live in an area with people who are more careful, or pumps that are better maintained then because I always find there's already diesel on the handle. On the odd occasion there's no gloves available I wrap a bit of paper towel round it and it always ends up with some damp spots on it

TheInternet

4,745 posts

165 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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Minsky said:
Park up, plug in, swipe card, go to loo and costa for coffee and by the time you get back you will have an extra 100 miles in the tank.
Sounds good, but I'm worried this is you.



Case study for the ignorant (me): How long does it take to add 100 miles to an ID3 or Leaf if you roll in to Membury Services with ~20% charge remaining?

Frik

13,543 posts

245 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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Condi said:
Wandsworth or Lambeth council (I forget which, maybe both) have installed chargers in street lights which I thought was a really neat way of using existing infrastructure. It's probably not a high speed charger, but doesn't matter in central London when cars can sit for days or where trips are short. Only £1k each too, much cheaper than standalone installation.

Richmond council do. There's quite a few of them, but they're only 5kW if I recall.

otolith

56,581 posts

206 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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Rolls-canardley said:
otolith said:
One of my favourite cars I’ve owned didn’t have any pistons.
Yeah guessed it........and totally environmentally friendly!

Nope.



RizzoTheRat

25,308 posts

194 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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TheInternet said:
Case study for the ignorant (me): How long does it take to add 100 miles to an ID3 or Leaf if you roll in to Membury Services with ~20% charge remaining?
Assuming somewhere between 3 and 3.5 miles per kWh, a 50kW charger would add between 150 and 175 miles range for an hour on a charger, so around 35-40 minutes to add 100 miles

TheInternet

4,745 posts

165 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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Thanks. That was very lazy of me.

A pretty massive cup of coffee then.

CalisenQX

213 posts

75 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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RizzoTheRat said:
TheInternet said:
Case study for the ignorant (me): How long does it take to add 100 miles to an ID3 or Leaf if you roll in to Membury Services with ~20% charge remaining?
Assuming somewhere between 3 and 3.5 miles per kWh, a 50kW charger would add between 150 and 175 miles range for an hour on a charger, so around 35-40 minutes to add 100 miles
Spot on.
Also annoying when the chargers only deliver 15-25kW… so it takes twice as long as that for the same end result.

Condi

17,355 posts

173 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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Some of the newer chargers are 350Kw! Barely have time to get into Starbucks and back out again before you're ready to go.

3 miles per Kw, 34KW needed, 6 mins of charging.

blank

3,481 posts

190 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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Condi said:
Some of the newer chargers are 350Kw! Barely have time to get into Starbucks and back out again before you're ready to go.

3 miles per Kw, 34KW needed, 6 mins of charging.
Except you can't (yet) buy a car that will charge at 350kW...

400kW will become pretty standard (500A @ 800V) which should give decent charge in a quick 10-15min stop. If there's enough grid power of course (which is the big problem).

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Pica-Pica

13,959 posts

86 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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Condi said:
Some of the newer chargers are 350Kw! Barely have time to get into Starbucks and back out again before you're ready to go.

3 miles per Kw, 34KW needed, 6 mins of charging.
Starbucks? Do people really drink that st?

braddo

10,635 posts

190 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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Pica-Pica said:
Starbucks? Do people really drink that st?
Do you prefer the Douwe Egberts at the local caf?

James6112

4,533 posts

30 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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braddo said:
Pica-Pica said:
Starbucks? Do people really drink that st?
Do you prefer the Douwe Egberts at the local caf?
Weird thread creep

From a DIY charging arrangement, to coffee
Worse than the A to B after a few hours in youtube!

Pan Pan Pan

9,999 posts

113 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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otolith said:
Rolls-canardley said:
otolith said:
One of my favourite cars I’ve owned didn’t have any pistons.
Yeah guessed it........and totally environmentally friendly!

Nope.

Rotary engines do not appear to be very fuel efficient, so can they accurately be described as being environmentally friendly?

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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Pan Pan Pan said:
otolith said:
Rolls-canardley said:
otolith said:
One of my favourite cars I’ve owned didn’t have any pistons.
Yeah guessed it........and totally environmentally friendly!

Nope.

Rotary engines do not appear to be very fuel efficient, so can they accurately be described as being environmentally friendly?
If it broke straight away, instead of after a short while, then I suppose that was fairly green of it.

otolith

56,581 posts

206 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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Pan Pan Pan said:
otolith said:
Rolls-canardley said:
otolith said:
One of my favourite cars I’ve owned didn’t have any pistons.
Yeah guessed it........and totally environmentally friendly!

Nope.

Rotary engines do not appear to be very fuel efficient, so can they accurately be described as being environmentally friendly?
No, it was absolutely horrific from that point of view. But I really liked driving it, and to be honest I spotted that they probably weren't long for this world and wanted one before they became extinct.

sherman

13,451 posts

217 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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otolith said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
otolith said:
Rolls-canardley said:
otolith said:
One of my favourite cars I’ve owned didn’t have any pistons.
Yeah guessed it........and totally environmentally friendly!

Nope.

Rotary engines do not appear to be very fuel efficient, so can they accurately be described as being environmentally friendly?
No, it was absolutely horrific from that point of view. But I really liked driving it, and to be honest I spotted that they probably weren't long for this world and wanted one before they became extinct.
Mazda have just released an electric car with a rotary range extending engine. Its only a 1 rotor that spins at a condtant rpm like a generator
The rotary charges the batteries. The batteries power the wheels. It should be ok for 30mpg.

Pica-Pica

13,959 posts

86 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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braddo said:
Pica-Pica said:
Starbucks? Do people really drink that st?
Do you prefer the Douwe Egberts at the local caf?
Nope, I don’t like ‘Old Dowager Egbert’ coffee at all Another reason I won’t have an EV if I have to sit it out drinking st coffee. Starf**ks has to be the worst, I have ever tasted. Well, taste is a generous term, it has no taste.

otolith

56,581 posts

206 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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sherman said:
Mazda have just released an electric car with a rotary range extending engine. Its only a 1 rotor that spins at a condtant rpm like a generator
The rotary charges the batteries. The batteries power the wheels. It should be ok for 30mpg.
Yes, saw that, and it's an established use case for small rotary engines like APUs in aircraft. But it's not going to drive or sound like a car with a rotary turning the wheels.

ajap1979

8,014 posts

189 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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Pica-Pica said:
braddo said:
Pica-Pica said:
Starbucks? Do people really drink that st?
Do you prefer the Douwe Egberts at the local caf?
Nope, I don’t like ‘Old Dowager Egbert’ coffee at all Another reason I won’t have an EV if I have to sit it out drinking st coffee. Starf**ks has to be the worst, I have ever tasted. Well, taste is a generous term, it has no taste.
Just install one of these…



Mr Tidy

22,724 posts

129 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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Pica-Pica said:
For the record, diesel owners do not use plastic gloves.
I always did until I saw the error of my ways and went back to petrol power!

Diesel stinks for days.