MR2 MK3 PROJECT

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Ilovejapcrap

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3,302 posts

124 months

Friday 27th July 2018
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Akayfortyseven said:
Ilovejapcrap said:
not far of the point when coilovers are cheaper, I just prefer a conventional setup for mainly road use.
Yeah... I bought mine for majority road use so Im thinking Tein/KYB despite not being far off coilover money!

Mines burning a bit of oil so may need to sort that in the future.
ive read from others kyb and shocks is a nice setup to use.

What year is yours ?

aland75

173 posts

89 months

Friday 27th July 2018
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I have one of these (2000/W) that is burning oil, was very close on MOT emissions test last week.
I assume the simplest / cheapest solution is to replace the engine, someone mentioned another engine that fits earlier in this thread. Can anyone let me know the options?

Any other changes needed when changing engines?

200Plus Club

11,739 posts

290 months

Friday 27th July 2018
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aland75 said:
I have one of these (2000/W) that is burning oil, was very close on MOT emissions test last week.
I assume the simplest / cheapest solution is to replace the engine, someone mentioned another engine that fits earlier in this thread. Can anyone let me know the options?

Any other changes needed when changing engines?
2zz from a Celica 190.you need the box to suit it. Quite a few people fit them join the FB mr2 page. It's possibly more economic sense to buy already converted cars though and let someone else chuck money at it as they never fetch what people expect afterward.

aland75

173 posts

89 months

Friday 27th July 2018
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200Plus Club said:
2zz from a Celica 190.you need the box to suit it. Quite a few people fit them join the FB mr2 page. It's possibly more economic sense to buy already converted cars though and let someone else chuck money at it as they never fetch what people expect afterward.
Thanks. I've sent FB page join request.

Ilovejapcrap

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3,302 posts

124 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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aland75 said:
I have one of these (2000/W) that is burning oil, was very close on MOT emissions test last week.
I assume the simplest / cheapest solution is to replace the engine, someone mentioned another engine that fits earlier in this thread. Can anyone let me know the options?

Any other changes needed when changing engines?
If rest of car is nice and you like it I’d look at rebuilding it to be honest. It would be like new internally, well better than new as the original issue would have been addressed.

2zz engines are indeed a common swap, but it’s not just a case of engine you have different ECU and all sorts to do.

I personally think the standard engine is ample.

Escy

4,077 posts

161 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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Rebuilding the standard engine makes no sense when you can buy a replacement 1zz for a couple hundred.

aland75

173 posts

89 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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Thanks both.
The rest of the car isn't exactly mint, but my wife is rather attached to it as it was her dad's car, which she inherited when he died, so it'll get repaired!
It's scraped through the last few MOTs on emissions, and 2 years ago a new CAT improved matters, but the oil usage has now got much worse so I need to address it before the winter.
If someone can point me to a decent original engine that's a straight swap, that could be done in a weekend - as opposed to several weeks rebuilding the existing one. The clutch is original (116k miles) so i'll replace that when apart.

There were advisories for rear shocks leaking, front springs corroded and poor handbrake performance.
Rear shocks are straightforward enough (any preferred brands?), front spring corrosion i'll ignore for now, and handbrake has previously had new cables and is adjusted to the limit, so I assume I may have to replace the calipers next?

Edited by aland75 on Saturday 28th July 11:48

Ilovejapcrap

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Saturday 28th July 2018
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Escy said:
Rebuilding the standard engine makes no sense when you can buy a replacement 1zz for a couple hundred.
Except for a little more than a second hand one you'd have one with the oil fault issues built out, new cam-chain,water pump, valve seals and tolerances etc basically a like new engine. I get your point if your looking at it as throw away, but for those attached to them its a good move.

anyway back on topic i've sent my brakes away for sorting too:

https://www.bcs-automotive.co.uk/


bearman68

4,851 posts

144 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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I have one of these, and have been running it for a few years now. It's a great little machine, although occasionally a boot would come in handy. Always thought a Saab turbo would be a lovely engine in these.
Anyway I've put 2 engines in mine - bought mine with a known bad engine,and changed it. Unfortunately (and stupidly), I boiled it when the rad failed. For £50 or something, it's well worth changing that. The last engine I've fitted was from a corrolla 2008 with apparently 40k miles. (yeah really).
It does run very nicely though.
This year I've had to change both rear callipers, discs and pads, as well as the bloody handbrake cables that are a bit of a mare.
The front steering knuckle joint has been replaced, and when I was there, I found the front sub frame in poor condition, so I sorted that out as well.
Next on the list is a suspension replacement , and possibly a new exhaust, depending on getting through it's MOT or not.

I really love the little car, and while it's not the fastest thing on the road, there's not a lot to touch it on twisty roads, and especially not while doing close to 40 mpg. An updated one of these is what the GT86 should have been - convertible, light, basic and with 200 BHP.

Escy

4,077 posts

161 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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Ilovejapcrap said:
Except for a little more than a second hand one
How much is a little more? I sold a good used engine for £250 a few months ago.

Ilovejapcrap

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3,302 posts

124 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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still awaiting correspondence from brake referb company regarding my brakes, its been a week and no acknowledgement they even have them so getting a little worried

Ilovejapcrap

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Monday 27th August 2018
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They've arrived smile










Ilovejapcrap

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Saturday 15th September 2018
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Escy said:
Wow, you've put a lot of effort into it.

You probably torqued the head up wrong (perhaps some debris in the thread or a bad head bolt) rather than the gasket being at fault.

What was the total cost for repairing the 1ZZ and what made you want to go that way? You can buy a decent engine for £200 so it seems a strange decision to me.
No it was the gasket.

I’d never rebuilt an engine so thought for the money I’m going to enhance my knowledge far more than just reading about it.

Also the 200 quid one could have same issue at anytime, contrary to popular belief that facelift engines had the fault cured, they made it slightly better with different scrape ring setup. Only the very last few actually had the extra holed pistons fully solving issue.

So I’ve learnt a lot and got a more or less fresh engine out of the deal.

Craikeybaby

11,080 posts

237 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2018
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New brakes look good, I really ought to get them done on mine!

PartOfTheProblem

1,946 posts

183 months

Tuesday 29th January 2019
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Great thread, its fantastic to see someone getting their hands dirty! Awesome stuff, keep the updates coming.

Ilovejapcrap

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3,302 posts

124 months

Saturday 11th May 2019
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thread update,

in coming weeks im doing following :

new rad,
bushes on another set of the rear arms
front wishbones and bushes
new handbrakes (Toyota this time the cheap ones are crap!!)
new handbrake cable

this is to get MOT'd for its next trip :P

Ilovejapcrap

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124 months

Tuesday 14th May 2019
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Works started

Edited by Ilovejapcrap on Tuesday 14th May 14:19

Ilovejapcrap

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Tuesday 14th May 2019
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new rad fitted, system seems to hold a fair amount of water. guess its as engine at back and rad at front





Ilovejapcrap

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124 months

Tuesday 14th May 2019
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new genuine handbrake cables to fit.

I did fit some replica ones a while ago and basically they are crap


Ilovejapcrap

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Tuesday 14th May 2019
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fitting the handbrake cables is a right bd.

You have to drop the fuel tank, this time with a lift lifes a little easier.

The cable comes above the tank and has a couple of fixing points you need to bolt too as you go.