Disappointed - old favourites are actually, well, crap

Disappointed - old favourites are actually, well, crap

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KAgantua

3,942 posts

133 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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LuS1fer said:
PositronicRay said:
A lot of things don't stand the test of time.

The Britas Empire anyone?
Different eras but Brittas wasn't funny then, either.

Gimme Gimme Gimme? Appalling then and now.

Very few stand the test of time - Dad's Army is timeless, so is Only Fools and Horses and Monty Python (though a lot of theor not so classic material is remarkably poor, some is genius like "Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, extra-or (dinary)"

I watch some of the stuff on Forces TV and it's cringeworthy - Nightingales, Get Some In, even Bless This House because of the 70s humour.
Sykes has some good, witty stuff in it but a bloke living with his sister was a bit weird, even back then.

There again, that was the era of Eric and Ernie who went to bed together...

Edited by LuS1fer on Wednesday 11th November 15:28
Brittas was very surreal and IMO foreshadowed 'The Office' to a degree but a more crazy version (Closer to the US version in that regard)

It hung about too long but had its moments

warch

2,941 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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The Hypno-Toad said:
BadOrangePete said:
Loved Men Behaving Badly as a teenager first time round, tried rewatching it once or twice when its on Gold, its not aged well
Neither has Game On.... [shudder]
I've been watching Men Behaving Badly recently, specifically from Series 2 when Neil Morrisey (Tony) first appeared to Series 5 or so before Tony became an irritant, and quite enjoyed it.

I haven't seen Game On for years although I remember quite liking the premise of the first series (Ben Chaplin was clearly slumming it in the role). I think Edgar Wright properly stuck the boot into the show discussing the making of Spaced, basically saying that it was a comedy about people in their twenties written by someone middle aged.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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warch said:
I've been watching Men Behaving Badly recently, specifically from Series 2 when Neil Morrisey (Tony) first appeared to Series 5 or so before Tony became an irritant, and quite enjoyed it.

I haven't seen Game On for years although I remember quite liking the premise of the first series (Ben Chaplin was clearly slumming it in the role). I think Edgar Wright properly stuck the boot into the show discussing the making of Spaced, basically saying that it was a comedy about people in their twenties written by someone middle aged.
I watched the first series of Game On recently and I think it is still watchable today. As you say, Ben Chaplin made that series as the other two with Neil Stuke were rubbish.

I agree with Men Behaving Badly and you can add Bottom to the list. The most disappointing for me is The Young Ones as I loved it as a child and we would all talk about it at school the next day.

I can still watch Red Dwarf (series 1 to 6), but I have seen them so often I can quote every line. More like a big dose of warm nostalgia as it takes me back to watching them in my bedroom on VHS.

It's like all things from our youth, TV, cars, computer games all best left alone as they were from their time and best left as memories.



colin_p

4,503 posts

214 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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Space 1999.

Loved it back in the 70's as a kid, utter tosh now with one exception;

The "Eagle" spacecraft have never been bettered in any sci-fi.

The Hypno-Toad

12,371 posts

207 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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colin_p said:
Space 1999.

Loved it back in the 70's as a kid, utter tosh now with one exception;

The "Eagle" spacecraft have never been bettered in any sci-fi.
Looking back on it UFO had a brilliant premise (aliens harvesting human organs for their dying race.), fantastic space ships & equipment and great theme music but they didn't know what to do with it story wise. I often thought that they wanted the programme to be much darker than it turned out but couldn't go there for censorship and financial reasons.

Space 1999 had a dreadful premise (moon somehow travelling faster than light through the universe where they meet an alien of the week.) but still had fantastic space ships & equipment and great theme music. However they were also weighed down with some truly appalling actors and most of the time it verged on the unwatchable.

LuS1fer

41,173 posts

247 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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stevebrookman said:
UFO was set in 1980.
So 10 years into the future but they could still have made up futuristic gadgets like mobile phones and something better than a cassette. Star Trek was far more creative.

It's a bit like all the really old-fashioned switches and lights on Stingray and Thunderbirds. Makes me smile.

troika

1,878 posts

153 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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Fawlty Towers still remains about the best series ever made IMHO.

Halmyre

11,306 posts

141 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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LuS1fer said:
stevebrookman said:
UFO was set in 1980.
So 10 years into the future but they could still have made up futuristic gadgets like mobile phones and something better than a cassette. Star Trek was far more creative.

It's a bit like all the really old-fashioned switches and lights on Stingray and Thunderbirds. Makes me smile.
Easy to say with hindsight, but no-one (or hardly anyone who would be taken seriously) was predicting mobile phones and optical or solid-state memory in 1970.

LuS1fer

41,173 posts

247 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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Halmyre said:
Easy to say with hindsight, but no-one (or hardly anyone who would be taken seriously) was predicting mobile phones and optical or solid-state memory in 1970.
Star Trek was well ahead of the curve from 1966 onwards with their communicators and so forth. Looking back, it was very well done.

Ash_

5,929 posts

192 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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joropug said:
Ash_ said:
I'm currently re-watching V which is being shown on Forces TV. The story is still pretty good in the main, though the characters do the usual stupid stuff Hollywood require to progress a story.

However, the acting really is pretty crap and the special effects are an absolute joke, even for 1983.

But, I'm enjoying it though, so a bit disappointed in how bad its aged etc, but not so disappointed I won't finish it.
V had a remake, quite liked it but was cancelled
Yeah, I caught the remake, but couldn't get into it, I probably banged out before the end of the 1st season. For me it just seemed to miss the entire point of the first series, how a resistance force copes with being occupied, though maybe I didn't give it enough time.

PurpleTurtle

7,125 posts

146 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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Even though it looks massively dated, I still love watching The Professionals .... I've see nth re-runs countless times and, with the exception of a couple of slow plot episodes, I can watch them all over and over again.

The Office has aged well, doesn't feel like it will be 20yrs old next summer. It would be nice if they did a one off to show where they've all ended up (Gareth still Assistant to the Regional Manager at Wernham Hogg) but everyone's career has moved on, so I dare say it would be impossible to get the cast together and film it in time, even if there was a desire to. Maybe like Fawlty Towers it is best left as a fond memory.

Ash_

5,929 posts

192 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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AlexS said:
joropug said:
Ash_ said:
I'm currently re-watching V which is being shown on Forces TV. The story is still pretty good in the main, though the characters do the usual stupid stuff Hollywood require to progress a story.

However, the acting really is pretty crap and the special effects are an absolute joke, even for 1983.

But, I'm enjoying it though, so a bit disappointed in how bad its aged etc, but not so disappointed I won't finish it.
V had a remake, quite liked it but was cancelled
With V there was the original 2 part mini series then the 3 part V:The Final Battle. The quality of those is way better than the series that followed afterwards.
Indeed, with the exception of the truly awful puppet lizard baby! biglaugh

Ash_

5,929 posts

192 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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J4CKO said:
Still love the National Lampoons vacation films, Beverly D'Angelo is part of the reason and Chevy Chase is awesome.

V was good back in 1986, not sure I could stick it now, but Ghostbusters still hits the spot.

The Prisoner, went to Portmerion for the weekend this time last year, so felt compelled to watch the series, what a load of old wk, managed two episodes.

I think a lot of fondness for something is formed at the time you first watch it, sometimes it never leaves you but other times you lose the love, Blakes Seven for example, watched it every week, load of old cock, ten minutes is enough to remind you of the annoying snidey one, the baddie woman, the fit blond one, the annoying computer and the theme music/titles, job done, dont need to watch it all.

Similarly, some old stuff that didnt resonate or you didn't get, deserves another watch, Steptoe and son is magnificent, Dads Army is always much better than you remember, quality doesnt really date that badly.
My wife and I went there in September this year and enjoyed it for it's quirks. So my older brother lent me the boxset, I've yet to bring myself to watch as I've heard it's quite odd and hard work to get into. When it first aired I was far too young, so, although I've heard of it, I've not seen it. Not sure I ever will get round to putting the first disc to give it a go either.

Ash_

5,929 posts

192 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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wibble cb said:
Ferris Buellers day off is still excellent viewing, Breakfast Club, not so much.

I suspect Airwolf et al will also all be a bit crap now (RIP Donald P Bellsario), but I was and avid watcher back in the day.
Weirdly I saw Ferris Bueller a couple of years ago and thought it was really naff, it's only saving grace was the lead actress (Phoebe Cates?).

LuS1fer

41,173 posts

247 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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Ash_ said:
Indeed, with the exception of the truly awful puppet lizard baby! biglaugh
Maybe it was baby Yoda... rolleyes

rwindmill

436 posts

160 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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CubanPete said:
I watched Weird Science about three times a week for about 3 years in my teens.

I bought it when it was released onto DVD, about 15 years ago. But I haven't been able to bring myself to watch
Don't, it will ruin the fond memories.

I was the same in my teen years, absolutely loved that film. However, i saw it a couple of years ago and it was pants.

Ash_

5,929 posts

192 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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LuS1fer said:
Ash_ said:
Indeed, with the exception of the truly awful puppet lizard baby! biglaugh
Maybe it was baby Yoda... rolleyes
Indeed, for all the greatness of The Mandalorian, The Child isn't the best bit of special effect. laugh

rwindmill

436 posts

160 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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marksx said:
P9DH said:
Found and tried watching Smokey and the Bandit 2 on Prime last night.

Loved it back when it came out... Like most of these films, it's not aged well.
The first film though is still brilliant.
Even Burt Reynolds disliked the sequel, he was quoted as saying it was a 'pointless money making exercise'.

irocfan

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40,788 posts

192 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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Ash_ said:
wibble cb said:
Ferris Buellers day off is still excellent viewing, Breakfast Club, not so much.

I suspect Airwolf et al will also all be a bit crap now (RIP Donald P Bellsario), but I was and avid watcher back in the day.
Weirdly I saw Ferris Bueller a couple of years ago and thought it was really naff, it's only saving grace was the lead actress (Phoebe Cates?).
Thing is though, in reality what FB needed was a good slap - he really was a cock. Which is why it appears to have appealed to our younger selves

RedAndy

1,241 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th November 2020
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Naked Gun films- Very risque back in my teens, but now its just rubbish.

However i have got in to The Sweeney - must have been quite something back then when it as new.