RE: Outrageous Java Green Abt RS Q8-R for sale
Discussion
biggbn said:
Isn't it interesting the way we judge cars and their owners in a way we rarely do with other possessions? We can't help what we like, can we? In the same way we all have different tastes in food, partners, films, books, art. Yet we apply stereotypes most readily to our car choices. Probably because we share the roads with the tangible representations of other people's choices and if ONE owners annoys us, cuts us up, whatever, it is easier to attribute ALL as being of a similar bent, if we see ONE driver that fits our assumed perception, they are ALL like that. Stereotypes are like old trainers, comfortable, easy to use but getting older by the minute...
With exception of some others, I personally don't stereotype. I agree we each have different tastes in friends, partners and assets etc, etc. Much the same as we're each ENTITLED to our own opinions, remembering this is an open forum. I would say others are less controlled in their choice of language, but may otherwise agree with the point their making, such as the subject matter being vulgar. Moving on to your other point in regard to driving ability on the road/highway. Well., most petrolheads whom like the car no matter what the value may be (£0>£0,000,000+) will likely think they're the best thing since sliced bread behind the wheel and curse the misdemeanours of other road users. The truth is, everyone makes mistakes behind the wheel and everyone is cursing one another. There's not enough policing of the roads and people know they can get away with it. There are many people whom are dishonest, simply don't care and find it funny. The gap between rich and poor has widened in the modern age and that drives the issue/manufacture of these type of vehicles. Did I read somewhere this is 200K? I reside in the UK and I would be frightened with it getting scratched. Furthermore, I couldn't be bothered going for a drive these days unless I absolutely have too. After all, everyone else who owns a car, is also on the damn road. Why?., As they all can't think of anything better to do other than getting out of one seat (armchair) and into another (car seat). We are collectively in love with car. We view it like a watch on the wrist; It's a showpiece, look what I've got. Truth is, unless your filthy rich, seldom are these cars owned outright. And there belies another problem; Credit. Think a strong portion of people are in facr in debt as they CANNOT stop spending and when it starts getting tough, require support. The world we live in today is a complete and utter joke. Edited by biggbn on Saturday 24th June 16:36
Edited by gruppeb86 on Saturday 24th June 19:11
biggbn said:
That was my point man, sorry if I was not clear. I, too, was being sarcastic. Drive what you want, when you want, just be careful how I'd suggest. I love the big green Audi and have spent the last couple of pages posting jist that! My chav comment was poking fun at those who make the assumption that the people who like this must be of that nature, whereas reality suggests just the opposite..
Super/phew. And yes, your right. Each to their own.Dapster said:
If I had £200k to throw around on a 4th car I didn’t need, I’d be very tempted. Not in green mind but in a fleet with an S Class, 911 GT3 Touring and a Honda e for example it would work for me.
That’s better but I think I’d go for an Aston with the AMG 4 litre twin turbo personally. If you had a gun to my head. gruppeb86 said:
With exception of some others, I personally don't stereotype. I agree we each have different tastes in friends, partners and assets etc, etc. Much the same as we're each ENTITLED to our own opinions, remembering this is an open forum. I would say others are less controlled in their choice of language, but may otherwise agree with the point their making, such as the subject matter being vulgar. Moving on to your other point in regard to driving ability on the road/highway. Well., most petrolheads whom like the car no matter what the value may be (£0>£0,000,000+) will likely think they're the best thing since sliced bread behind the wheel and curse the misdemeanours of other road users. The truth is, everyone makes mistakes behind the wheel and everyone is cursing one another. There's not enough policing of the roads and people know they can get away with it. There are many people whom are dishonest, simply don't care and find it funny. The gap between rich and poor has widened in the modern age and that drives the issue/manufacture of these type of vehicles. Did I read somewhere this is 200K? I reside in the UK and I would be frightened with it getting scratched. Furthermore, I couldn't be bothered going for a drive these days unless I absolutely have too. After all, everyone else who owns a car, is also on the damn road. Why?., As they all can't think of anything better to do other than getting out of one seat (armchair) and into another (car seat). We are collectively in love with car. We view it like a watch on the wrist; It's a showpiece, look what I've got. Truth is, unless your filthy rich, seldom are these cars owned outright. And there belies another problem; Credit. Think a strong portion of people are in facr in debt as they CANNOT stop spending and when it starts getting tough, require support. The world we live in today is a complete and utter joke.
Oh dear ... I think PistonHeads may not be the right website for you.Edited by gruppeb86 on Saturday 24th June 19:11
biggbn said:
Isn't it interesting the way we judge cars and their owners in a way we rarely do with other possessions? We can't help what we like, can we? In the same way we all have different tastes in food, partners, films, books, art. Yet we apply stereotypes most readily to our car choices. Probably because we share the roads with the tangible representations of other people's choices and if ONE owners annoys us, cuts us up, whatever, it is easier to attribute ALL as being of a similar bent, if we see ONE driver that fits our assumed perception, they are ALL like that. Stereotypes are like old trainers, comfortable, easy to use but getting older by the minute...
Its actually repetitive programming of the human psyche via the unconscious, you experience / encounter a situation whereupon a certain 4 x 4 acts aggressively toward you etc and they happen to look a certain way, that one encounter means little but your brain automatically red flags it to your memory and to be recognised & recalled very quickly when the situation happens again, deliberately for danger avoidance & to recognise if there’s a pattern (as it would in nature) which enables the prediction of danger (to avoid) rather than reaction to a dangerous situation.Edited by biggbn on Saturday 24th June 16:36
This same situation then happens again, could be to you, someone else or even read a story of something similar.. every time it happens your brain naturally forms an even stronger predictive ability at avoiding danger and so stereo typing is born as a form of protecting you from danger.
So when you say interesting, it is in fact interesting because it is all born from your own or others real life experiences
Unfortunate for the minority who dont fit that stereotype i know, hey! I own 3 supercars but my dick is massive and yet everyone thinks its tiny
Dont give a s
t what others think, defending your choice to people you dont know just makes you look insecure about your choice tbh and thus supporting the stereo type, so its your fault 
Goodness. Interesting that the PH promotion of a fairly tacky, albeit hyper-performance car has sparked so much philosophical debate.
It is what it is, take it or leave it (if you have the cash, of course) - there’s just so much of this stuff on offer at the moment.
Notable that the promo pictures included none head-on. Just too garish maybe..?
It is what it is, take it or leave it (if you have the cash, of course) - there’s just so much of this stuff on offer at the moment.
Notable that the promo pictures included none head-on. Just too garish maybe..?
biggbn said:
Isn't it interesting the way we judge cars and their owners in a way we rarely do with other possessions? We can't help what we like, can we? In the same way we all have different tastes in food, partners, films, books, art. Yet we apply stereotypes most readily to our car choices. Probably because we share the roads with the tangible representations of other people's choices and if ONE owners annoys us, cuts us up, whatever, it is easier to attribute ALL as being of a similar bent, if we see ONE driver that fits our assumed perception, they are ALL like that. Stereotypes are like old trainers, comfortable, easy to use but getting older by the minute...
Stereotypes are real though, and with cars being expensive, especially at this level, they are considered purchases, made with the heart, therefore a true reflection of the individual who buys it.Edited by biggbn on Saturday 24th June 16:36
I've yet to see a Golf R driven well. Or a Golf GTD driven like an R because the the owner wishes it was an R. RS3's are all understeering into roundabouts. Honda Jazz's are driven at 48mph in a 60mph limit. The list is endless.
jp-sr71 said:
And yet if Porsche make a lime green evolution of a base 911 and stick lots of extra black bits on it because that makes it “go faster”, everybody thinks it’s worth 3 times the price and you’ve got impeccable taste…
Wouldn’t life be dull if we all only liked Fiestas.
Impeccable taste is somewhat questionable Wouldn’t life be dull if we all only liked Fiestas.
but adding parts to chase lap times at the pointy end is probably more credible than what this cat stands for.
I hate you for making me defend a Porsche
Kerniki said:
Impeccable taste is somewhat questionable
but adding parts to chase lap times at the pointy end is probably more credible than what this cat stands for.
I hate you for making me defend a Porsche
You make the distinction only because you are an aficionado!but adding parts to chase lap times at the pointy end is probably more credible than what this cat stands for.
I hate you for making me defend a Porsche
In as much as the average man or woman on the street is inclined to arrive at a conclusion as to whether the owner of an RS’ed Porsche or ABT’ed Audi is well practised in the art of masturbation or not, there is no difference.
Especially if the encounter takes place in the Waitrose Car Park.
Edited by jp-sr71 on Sunday 25th June 09:47
Edited by jp-sr71 on Sunday 25th June 09:47
jp-sr71 said:
Kerniki said:
Impeccable taste is somewhat questionable
but adding parts to chase lap times at the pointy end is probably more credible than what this cat stands for.
I hate you for making me defend a Porsche
You make the distinction only because you are an aficionado!but adding parts to chase lap times at the pointy end is probably more credible than what this cat stands for.
I hate you for making me defend a Porsche
In as much as the average man or woman on the street is inclined to arrive at a conclusion as to whether the owner of an RS’ed Porsche or ABT’ed Audi is well practised in the art of masturbation or not, there is no difference.
Especially if the encounter takes place in the Waitrose Car Park.
Edited by jp-sr71 on Sunday 25th June 09:47
Edited by jp-sr71 on Sunday 25th June 09:47
but the people you were referring to that differentiate between the Q8 and the GT3, are aficionados and thats what i was answering
Kerniki said:
Its actually repetitive programming of the human psyche via the unconscious, you experience / encounter a situation whereupon a certain 4 x 4 acts aggressively toward you etc and they happen to look a certain way, that one encounter means little but your brain automatically red flags it to your memory and to be recognised & recalled very quickly when the situation happens again, deliberately for danger avoidance & to recognise if there’s a pattern (as it would in nature) which enables the prediction of danger (to avoid) rather than reaction to a dangerous situation.
This same situation then happens again, could be to you, someone else or even read a story of something similar.. every time it happens your brain naturally forms an even stronger predictive ability at avoiding danger and so stereo typing is born as a form of protecting you from danger.
So when you say interesting, it is in fact interesting because it is all born from your own or others real life experiences
Unfortunate for the minority who dont fit that stereotype i know, hey! I own 3 supercars but my dick is massive and yet everyone thinks its tiny
Dont give a st what others think, defending your choice to people you dont know just makes you look insecure about your choice tbh and thus supporting the stereo type, so its your fault
I would say your wearing it on your head.This same situation then happens again, could be to you, someone else or even read a story of something similar.. every time it happens your brain naturally forms an even stronger predictive ability at avoiding danger and so stereo typing is born as a form of protecting you from danger.
So when you say interesting, it is in fact interesting because it is all born from your own or others real life experiences
Unfortunate for the minority who dont fit that stereotype i know, hey! I own 3 supercars but my dick is massive and yet everyone thinks its tiny
Dont give a s
t what others think, defending your choice to people you dont know just makes you look insecure about your choice tbh and thus supporting the stereo type, so its your fault 3 Supercars you boast! Why on earth would anyone need x3 Supercars? The roads and unfrastructure are in the main not suitable for such machinery.
Dombilano said:
biggbn said:
Isn't it interesting the way we judge cars and their owners in a way we rarely do with other possessions? We can't help what we like, can we? In the same way we all have different tastes in food, partners, films, books, art. Yet we apply stereotypes most readily to our car choices. Probably because we share the roads with the tangible representations of other people's choices and if ONE owners annoys us, cuts us up, whatever, it is easier to attribute ALL as being of a similar bent, if we see ONE driver that fits our assumed perception, they are ALL like that. Stereotypes are like old trainers, comfortable, easy to use but getting older by the minute...
Stereotypes are real though, and with cars being expensive, especially at this level, they are considered purchases, made with the heart, therefore a true reflection of the individual who buys it.Edited by biggbn on Saturday 24th June 16:36
I've yet to see a Golf R driven well. Or a Golf GTD driven like an R because the the owner wishes it was an R. RS3's are all understeering into roundabouts. Honda Jazz's are driven at 48mph in a 60mph limit. The list is endless.
ks posted on here about things being 'council' or 'chavy' say much more about the posters than the people to whom they are referring. All that said, it doesn't really matter does it. I'd never be put off of driving something because of what others might think or assume. Sadly, its a fact of life. Some people just believe they are the ultimate arbiters of taste and anyone deviating from their predefined ideals is weird, or worse, a bit council..... gruppeb86 said:
Quite the contrary. Looking forward to all forthcoming articles.
So you can make more negative comments about exciting/fast/expensive cars and their owners ?You have even posted that you don't enjoy driving.
Try Train Travellers Monthly, Bicycle Business or Walkers Weekly, they're probably more suitable to your lifestyle if not your agenda.
Edited by Nish Gnackers on Sunday 25th June 11:26
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