991 commeth - and still no DAB Digital Radio..

991 commeth - and still no DAB Digital Radio..

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DavidAL

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53 posts

165 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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So, the UK Government seems still fairly fixed on phasing out FM radio broadcasts in the coming years, and here we have Porsche introducing yet another new model which cannot be specified with DAB Digital Radio.. C'mon.. Just about everybody offers that as an option these days.. I even get it for free on Hyundai rental cars in the USA..

How many folks will think twice about buying a car on the 2nd hand market in a few year's time that does not have a functional radio.. ?

Its not going to be your GT3's and GT2's and RS's and the like that will be affected.. I suspect that there will be a market for them regardless.. It'll be the bulk market Carreras, Carerra S's, Turbos.. and Panameras and Boxsters and Caymans and Cayennes.. The (what do you reckon) 80%? 90%? of stock moving out of showrooms now...

Since it's not here now, I suspect that an upgrade to DAB will now come (if ever) with the next itteration of PCM.. Which, on past experience, will come with 991 Gen 2..

So, what, 4? 5? years.. Some estimates had the UK Government turning off the FM transmisions before then..!!!!

Food for thought..????

Martian O

2,734 posts

163 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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I don't listen to the radio anyway, too many DJ's trying to fill in a 12 second gap. And the sheite adverts..............

iPod/peace-and-quiet/exhaust sound any day!

SteveM46

303 posts

160 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Agree that it's disappointing not to see DAB, not just on the 991 but on many (most?) new cars. We're onto our 4th DAB radio at home, and it's on most of the time.

I'm sure being a TMS fan and a 997 owner is a bit incongruous, but it's frustrating not to be able to listen to the cricket on LW, as I can in my Merc.

ears

DavidAL

Original Poster:

53 posts

165 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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The other point being that if they turn off the FM transmissions then the TMS signals may be lost, thus wiping out the additional functionality of our PCM SatNav's to allow for traffic delays etc..

Scelto

619 posts

158 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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There's no switch-off date for FM radio, and a quick Google shows that the Government started a significant back-pedal on that last summer, but it is a bit odd that digital radio isn't available on the 991...

I do listen to the radio, despite having CDs and an iPod in my 911, but I could live without if push came to shove (I doubt it will).

What I will miss, as noted above, is the traffic messages!

SteveM46

303 posts

160 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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DavidAL said:
The other point being that if they turn off the FM transmissions then the TMS signals may be lost, thus wiping out the additional functionality of our PCM SatNav's to allow for traffic delays etc..
When I said TMS, I meant Test Match Special......

getmecoat

anniesdad

14,589 posts

239 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Agree. Mad that the car won't have DAB. I was in a Tiguan the other day that had DAB and Bluetooth Audio, so you can just set it to that and play Ipod music without wires and still with pretty good audio quality. Excellent! Why you can't get something like this in a P. that's part of the VW Group is beyond me!

Diesel130

1,549 posts

213 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Can't see DAB happening as fast as some were predicting. The reception is lousy out of towns and on the move and, IIRC, the UK DAB system is incompatible with similar digital ones used in Europe, so you could have a radio that works here, but not abroad.

supermono

7,368 posts

249 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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don't worry labour's 'bankrupting the country' plan was derailed last summer, i doubt money will continue to be hosepiped away on vanity projects like phasing out analogue any more.

SM

jas xjr

11,309 posts

240 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Read somewhere that DAB had a limited lifespan in any case

isuk

1,486 posts

217 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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anniesdad said:
Agree. Mad that the car won't have DAB. I was in a Tiguan the other day that had DAB and Bluetooth Audio, so you can just set it to that and play Ipod music without wires and still with pretty good audio quality. Excellent! Why you can't get something like this in a P. that's part of the VW Group is beyond me!
The latest PCM units do have Bluetooth Audio which allows wireless MP3 connection.

Popolou

1,007 posts

208 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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jas xjr said:
Read somewhere that DAB had a limited lifespan in any case
But software upgradeable which can't be said for the analogue FM units.

Oh wait, another revenue stream for Porsche?

Popolou

1,007 posts

208 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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SteveM46 said:
DavidAL said:
The other point being that if they turn off the FM transmissions then the TMS signals may be lost, thus wiping out the additional functionality of our PCM SatNav's to allow for traffic delays etc..
When I said TMS, I meant Test Match Special......

getmecoat
laugh

And they were thinking of TMC.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

240 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Popolou said:
But software upgradeable which can't be said for the analogue FM units.

Oh wait, another revenue stream for Porsche?
If that's the case then I am mistaken. I understood that it would be replaced by a totally new system

anniesdad

14,589 posts

239 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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isuk said:
The latest PCM units do have Bluetooth Audio which allows wireless MP3 connection.
That's good. Is this standard?

Manks

26,360 posts

223 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Yes, I am disappointed that the 991 doesn't have DAB. It's all I listen to in the Range Rover and when I get into a car without it I get bored senseless by Radio 1, 2 and Chavital.

Mind you, DAB signal is way patchy - like analogue was in the 60s and 70s.

DavidAL

Original Poster:

53 posts

165 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Popolou said:
SteveM46 said:
DavidAL said:
The other point being that if they turn off the FM transmissions then the TMS signals may be lost, thus wiping out the additional functionality of our PCM SatNav's to allow for traffic delays etc..
When I said TMS, I meant Test Match Special......

getmecoat
laugh

And they were thinking of TMC.
Ah.. They may have been some sense in my mad gibberish after all.. biggrin

DavidAL

Original Poster:

53 posts

165 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Manks said:
Yes, I am disappointed that the 991 doesn't have DAB. It's all I listen to in the Range Rover and when I get into a car without it I get bored senseless by Radio 1, 2 and Chavital.

Mind you, DAB signal is way patchy - like analogue was in the 60s and 70s.
Thinking about it, when I said that the Hyundai rentals in the states had digital, they did, but from a satellite, not a terrestrial DAB transmitter.. You could hold onto the stations however far you drove, with a pretty constant quality..

rt911

689 posts

204 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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I cannot believe that Porsche have not introduced DAB to any of their cars.

I thought it was a given nowadays, and since I am replacing my A6 (6years old with DAB) in the coming months, I had got myself ready to order the new Diesel Panamera, but no DAB means a A7 Diesel with DAB & 4WD..... 4wd being another short coming of the Diesel Panamera.

Naturally I am keeping my gen2 GT3.... best car ever!


isuk

1,486 posts

217 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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anniesdad said:
That's good. Is this standard?
From memory I think it requires the preparation for mobile phone option to gain the Bluetooth connectivity.