Alloy wheels leaking air / corrision - solutions?

Alloy wheels leaking air / corrision - solutions?

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a11y_m

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1,861 posts

222 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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One of the alloys on my wife Fabia (standard vRS alloys) is corroded badly - for some reason it's only the one wheel; the other 3 are perfect (or as perfect as they can be on a 6-yr old workhorse). Previously it was only 1-2psi/week, but after fitting new tyres at the weekend one is losing all it's pressure overnight. Wheels are not yet mounted on the car either. I've identified that the air's escaping between the wheel edge and tyre in several places which funnily enough match up to where the worst of the corrision is.

I've tried reseating the tyre but had no effect/improvement.

What solution(s) can/should I try?

My thoughts are the corrosion's simply creating a poor seal between the tyre and rim, but I don't know what truth there is in older alloys becoming porous?

I've wondered if powdercoating the alloys would provide a clean edge for the tyre to sit against, but don't want to waste money if there's issues about the alloy becoming porous with age.

Help!

60

1,479 posts

187 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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If it's not too deep just sand off the corrosion so the bead can seal, I'm not sure about alloys becoming porous, mine are 18 years old and hold air fine.

Wheelrepairit

2,908 posts

204 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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In order of solving the problem.

1/ Get alloys refurbed, front and back

2/ Break bead and use sandpaper to remove corrosion

3/ Break bead and slop some "bead sealer" over it, a better fix than it sounds and the cheapest option.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

217 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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Option 4 is to buy a replacement wheel on Ebay smile

a11y_m

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1,861 posts

222 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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Cheers folks. I'll start with the cheap and easy option and go from there. I'm favouring a full refurb but since it's the wife's car (and she'd be paying!) I've to "explore other avenues"...

Just had to google tyre bead sealer - got to be worth a shot. Is that safe/OK to use in the longterm? I presume that's just the stuff tyre fitters should be using when they fit tyres initially so I guess I need to clear up the corrosion from the wheel at least.

Plus I'll keep an eye on ebay as an extra wheel wouldn't go amiss I guess with the depth of the potholes we'll get around here in a few months...

Wheelrepairit

2,908 posts

204 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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Bead sealer is fine longterm.

Make sure you apply it to the alloy, not the tyre, and give it a few mins to flash off, DONT just apply then reinflate straight away.

We find this works in 95% of cases, worst case you might have to give it a second coat.

Guvernator

13,156 posts

165 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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Had this issue on one of my previous cars. The tyre would deflate on the front driver side wheel over a period of a few days. Tried all the suggested fixes which didn't work. Had to get it professionaly refurbed in the end which cost about £50 but cured the problem. If you do go for the refurb, make sure they do it properly, ie sandblast the inside of the wheel then seal it properly as well to fix the corrosion.

a11y_m

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1,861 posts

222 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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Thanks again guys.

Going to start with a clean up and bead sealer and if that fails then a full refurb. They're actually a spare set we've just had winter tyres fitted to so still got (hopefully) a few weeks to sort them out before they're going on the car.

I still favour a full refurb in anthracite (silver car) in order to hide the grime as she just doesn't have the same dedication/OCDness as me when it comes to cleaning...

defblade

7,435 posts

213 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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On alloys going porous:

I understand the alloy is porous; it's the paint/powdercoat/whatever finish that seals it.

The other option here is that the corrosion is just lifting the bead slightly and stopping it sealing.

If they're not special wheels, you can refurb them yourself without too much effort. I used a wire-brush thing in my drill to get the worst off then sanded, filled and sanded before spraying. Wouldn't have taken half as long to seal up a winter wheel, these were for looking at smile

a11y_m

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1,861 posts

222 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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defblade said:
On alloys going porous:

I understand the alloy is porous; it's the paint/powdercoat/whatever finish that seals it.

The other option here is that the corrosion is just lifting the bead slightly and stopping it sealing.

If they're not special wheels, you can refurb them yourself without too much effort. I used a wire-brush thing in my drill to get the worst off then sanded, filled and sanded before spraying. Wouldn't have taken half as long to seal up a winter wheel, these were for looking at smile
I've previously refurbed a set of BMW split-rims and vowed never to do it again! Seemed like a lot of work although they did come up good in the end. Not sure I have the patience/time when they're not mine. I'm half-tempted to do a rough refurb on the one knackered wheel involving steel wool and a can of silver hammerite...

defblade

7,435 posts

213 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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a11y_m said:
I'm half-tempted to do a rough refurb on the one knackered wheel involving steel wool and a can of silver hammerite...
Yep - that would be me (except I'd dig the wire brush thingy out again to save elbow grease - it really did cut it all back quickly).

Pablo16v

2,080 posts

197 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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I used liquid latex sealant on an old Audi that had porous front wheels. It was stuff I used for my mountain bike tubeless tyres, but I think you get similar stuff in larger quantities for cars.

Like this http://www.justridingalong.com//shop.php?product=4...

sim16v

2,177 posts

201 months

Friday 14th October 2011
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My tyre fitter cleans the rim up the best he can, then runs a line of silicon sealant around where the bead would sit on the wheel.

It's solved problems on some of my wheels.

bazking69

8,620 posts

190 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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AndrewW-G said:
Option 4 is to buy a replacement wheel on Ebay smile
This would be my plan of attack.

I had an MV1 alloy on my old BMW that would lose 20psi a week. Gave up trying to get to the bottom of it in the end and bought a secondhand alloy wheel from ebay.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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bazking69 said:
AndrewW-G said:
Option 4 is to buy a replacement wheel on Ebay smile
This would be my plan of attack.
+1 yes
Trying to find out where the alloy has gone porous is more trouble than it's worth
Watch that could be why the ebay one is for sale whistle

a11y_m

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1,861 posts

222 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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saaby93 said:
1 yes
Trying to find out where the alloy has gone porous is more trouble than it's worth
Watch that could be why the ebay one is for sale whistle
biggrin

That thought did cross my mind but I try not to think the worst of people (well, at first at least...).