RE: New Porsche 911: the specs

RE: New Porsche 911: the specs

Monday 21st November 2011

New Porsche 911: the specs

OK, so you've read the first drive - here's the number and spec crunching bit



As you may have gathered, the all new 991 generation Porsche 911is a rather complex beast, not least when it comes to understanding all the tech and how it all relates to each other. And what's standard and what's not.

So, let's start with the vanilla Porsche 911 Carrera. This starts at £71,449 and uses a new 3.4-litre flat-six with 350hp. 0-62mph in the manual takes 4.8 seconds, dropping to 4.6 seconds with PDK (£2,387) and 4.4 seconds on the latter with the £1,084 Sport Chrono pack. Top speed is 179mph. All cars get the new Sound Symposer, switchable via the Sport button.

Your basic 911 Carrera? This isn't it
Your basic 911 Carrera? This isn't it
So there's your basic 911. To which you can add, in no particular order, Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV) for £890 - familiar technology from the previous Turbo but now available even on the Carrera and fitted in conjunction with a limited-slip diff. If you've already chosen PDK your choice is PTV Plus (£1,012) with a more sophisticated electronically controlled locking diff. PASM dampers (£1,133) are another familiar technology and will be available in two configurations. The first drops the car by 10mm while the PASM 'sports suspension' (£1,691), with an aero package that includes a variable rear wing, drops the car 20mm but you need to have ticked the boxes for 20-inch wheels (£971) and PTV to qualify.

Sport Chrono, as mentioned, includes launch control on the PDK and, new for the 991, GT3 style active engine mounts.

By the time you've added all this lot to your Carrera you're probably looking at a somewhat ludicrous price tag. So you might be better off starting with the £81,242 Carrera S instead. It uses the familiar 3.8-litre engine and now develops 400hp, cutting the 0-62mph time to 4.5 seconds with the manual, 4.3 seconds with PDK and just 4.1 seconds with PDK and Sports Chrono.

Porsche in 'charging lots for extras' shocker
Porsche in 'charging lots for extras' shocker
But the standard spec also includes 20-inch wheels, PASM and the regular PTV torque vectoring and limited-slip diff set-up. If you want a more extreme set-up you can still go for the PASM sports suspension too but it costs a more reasonable £558 on the S. Exclusive to the S you can also add the Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) active anti-roll bar system for £2,185, or you can bundle it with the PASM sports suspension for £2,744. Though the acronym is carried over from the Panamera and Cayenne and it achieves the same aim it's, technically speaking, a completely different system.

The switchable sports exhaust is also available on both models and comes heartily recommended! £1,772 very well spent. Other common options include the Power Steering Plus (£178) that reduces the weighting for parking manoeuvres and at low speeds and, of course, PCCB ceramic brakes (£5,787) with trademark yellow calipers. Beware if you're choosing PDK too - unless you opt for the £283 Sport Design steering wheel you won't get paddle shifters but the daft, two-way buttons instead.

In true Porsche fashion the potential for inflating that base price by a significant margin is present and correct, your friendly dealer no doubt happy to discuss how many acronyms and zeros you want adding to your spec sheet come order time. The least you can expect is a nice coffee as he does so.

Offsetting that is the fact your new 911 will use considerably less fuel, the standard, start-stop equipped Carrera achieving 31.4mpg with the manual and 34.4mpg with PDK, the latter helped by the new coasting function. Emissions are 212g/km and 194g/km respectively. To give you an idea of the efficiency savings the previous 3.6 would do 27.4mpg (28.8mpg PDK) and 242g/km (230g/km PDK). The S manages 29.7mpg manual and 32.5mpg with PDK, CO2 coming in at 224g/km and 204g/km respectively. Impressive numbers for a 400hp, 188mph car.

Clear as mud then? Here to help! For more info check out the Porsche configuratoron the customer website with the new to 991 3D viewing option. First one to 'build' a £100K Carrera wins!*

 

*Actually you don't but let us know anyway.

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Discussion

arkenphel

Original Poster:

484 posts

205 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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I'm not keen on how it looks (Thought it was a cayman from the 1st photo!) but those specs are impressive indeed. So much more efficient than my E92 M3, what with 10mpg more.... Do all n/a Porshces break the 100bhp/L barrier now?

I wonder what the increases for the GT cars will be like.

mash

113 posts

252 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Is it 911 week or something? Every other story is about Pork. Yawn...

tyeo86

292 posts

152 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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£100k for a fully spec'd 911, no thanks. I really dont understand the logic, why not buy a second hand Ferrari 430 or Aston Martin.

P.S the wingmirrors look shocking! 997's were better

Decoy

82 posts

176 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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£117,702.00 Fully specc'd S biggrin

Matt UK

17,698 posts

200 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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tyeo86 said:
£100k for a fully spec'd 911, no thanks. I really dont understand the logic, why not buy a second hand Ferrari 430 or Aston Martin.

P.S the wingmirrors look shocking! 997's were better
Why buy a new VW Golf when you could buy a used BMW M5...

tyeo86

292 posts

152 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Matt UK said:
Why buy a new VW Golf when you could buy a used BMW M5...
+1

Shewie

553 posts

190 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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I think I'll wait until I see one in the metal before I pass final judgement, but the more pictures I see the more I want a 997 GTS!!

Despite the tech overload and the very impressive stats I can't help but think £80k+ for a mildly specced entry model is an awful lot of money.

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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tyeo86 said:
P.S the wingmirrors look shocking! 997's were better
Blame the EU (Why don't we just leave it?), and some bullst regulation about the size of wing mirrors.

Some Gump

12,690 posts

186 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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How fun..

Base price: £ 64,722.00
Price for equipment: £ 45,196.00
Total Price:* £ 109,918.00

Plus points:
Brown (including brown wheels), red leather, lots of wood.
Probably very heavy.
Bad points:
Depreciation may be modest.

goodhand

75 posts

213 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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This is far from exclusive to Porsches though.

You can quite easily DOUBLE the £40k base price of a new Audi A6 Avant by ticking the right option boxes:
http://configurator.audi.co.uk/entry?context=accx-...

AngryPartsBloke

1,436 posts

151 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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tyeo86 said:
£100k for a fully spec'd 911, no thanks. I really dont understand the logic, why not buy a second hand Ferrari 430 or Aston Martin.

P.S the wingmirrors look shocking! 997's were better
I dont understand the logic in comparing a brand new car to a used one?

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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pah


Description No. Info Price
911 Carrera S £ 74,515.00
Exterior Colour
GT Silver Metallic U2
£ 1,805.00
Interior Colour
Espresso natural leather interior NE
£ 3,172.00
Exterior
Automatically dimming interior and exterior mirrors with integrated rain sensor P13
£ 372.00
Electric folding exterior mirrors 748
£ 202.00
Electric slide/tilt sunroof 651
£ 1,149.00
Roof transport system 549
£ 219.00
Rear wiper 425
£ 235.00
ParkAssist front and rear 636
£ 639.00
Model designition "911" 911
£ 77.00
Porsche Entry & Drive (KESSY) 625
£ 801.00
Bi-Xenon-Headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS) 603
£ 477.00
Aluminum window frames 559
£ 320.00
Top tinted windscreen 567
£ 77.00
Transmission / Chassis
Sports exhaust system 176
£ 1,772.00
Sport Chrono Package Plus 640
£ 1,376.00
Power steering plus 658
£ 178.00
PASM sport suspension (- 20 mm) incl. PDCC 031
£ 2,744.00
Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake (PCCB) 450
£ 5,787.00
Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) 250
£ 2,387.00
Wheels
20-inch SportDesign wheel 428
£ 243.00
Wheel Accessories
Wheel spacers, 5mm XRP
£ 235.00
Tyre Pressure monitoring system (TPM) 433 MHz 482
£ 437.00
Wheels painted in exterior colour XD9
£ 931.00
Interior
Racing Yellow seat belts XHN
£ 275.00
ISOFIX for passenger side 899
£ 121.00
Floor mats 810
£ 121.00
Smoking package 583
£ 0.00
Fire extinguisher 509
£ 101.00
Seat ventilation 541
£ 720.00
Heated seats 342
£ 320.00
Light design package 630
£ 299.00
Cruise control 454
£ 267.00
HomeLink® (garage door opener) 433 MHz 608
£ 194.00
Adaptive sports seats plus P07
£ 2,226.00
Interior Leather
Leather inner door-sill guards XTG
£ 312.00
Lid of storage bin with Porsche crest XPT
£ 154.00
Leather steering column casing XNS
£ 223.00
Leather sports seat plus backrests XWK
£ 1,044.00
Extended leather interior package rear CXN
£ 720.00
Rear centre tunnel in leather with decorative stitching XHS
£ 558.00
Porsche crest embossed on head restraints XSC
£ 138.00
Leather interior in natural leather 998
£ 0.00
Interior Carbon
Carbon centre console trim XHM
£ 340.00
Carbon interior package - PDK EEJ
£ 1,109.00
Carbon multi-function steering wheelincl. heating S/W XHL
£ 745.00
Audio / Communications
TV tuner 676
£ 1,044.00
Six disc CD/DVD autochanger 693
£ 445.00
Burmester® high-end surround sound-system 682
£ 2,986.00
Voice control 671
£ 308.00
Electronic logbook 641
£ 393.00
Porsche Vehicle Tracking System (VTS) T93
£ 1,140.00
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module P23
£ 2,120.00
Preparation for mobile phone 619
£ 445.00
Factory Collection
Factory collection 911 900
£ 1,160.00
Others
3rd Year Porsche Assistance A01
£ 169.00
3rd Year Warranty WO5
£ 1,020.00
Total Price* £ 121,367.00

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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edo said:
pah



£ 1,020.00
Total Price* £ 121,367.00
That spec will be a great used buy for someone - £85K in years time? £70k in 2? £60k in 3.

BigTom85

1,927 posts

171 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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I love the looks sooooo much, the back looks epic. Evolution at its best. And as for cocking a front wheel, epic stuff!!

Why does the options list have to be so confusing and absurd though?

I know we are comparing apples with pears here, but one of the main reasons I chose my Mazda 3 Sport Hatch 185 was because the only options were leather OR xenons (you couldn't have both) and that was it!

Frik

13,542 posts

243 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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AngryPartsBloke said:
I dont understand the logic in comparing a brand new car to a used one?
Quite. It's a pointless (and common) argument. Relevant to an individual with money to spend but not the overall concept of car buying. The car has to be a new car before it can exist second-hand.

Crusoe

4,068 posts

231 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Nice to see you can still spec a resale nightmare, how about a bile yellow carrera with £40k of options, colour matched yellow wheels and an all over dark red interior with blue seat belts and lots of nice mahogany inserts biggrin

vinnie83

3,367 posts

193 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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mash said:
Is it 911 week or something? Every other story is about Pork. Yawn...
I know, let's make the effort to read an article I have no interest in, and then comment on how little interest it is to me... yes, that's what I will do today... Instead of just not reading it, I will do that. That's the sensible thing to do right?


Dagnut

3,515 posts

193 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Crusoe said:
Nice to see you can still spec a resale nightmare, how about a bile yellow carrera with £40k of options, colour matched yellow wheels and an all over dark red interior with blue seat belts and lots of nice mahogany inserts biggrin
sounds like a fun game
http://cc.porsche.com/icc_euro/ccCall.do?userID=EN...



Edited by Dagnut on Monday 21st November 10:50

richard300

1,085 posts

209 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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If I had the money to buy a 991, I think I would....And I would probably spend a fortune specifying it to.

But there would be a couple of options that the dealer would have to give me free of charge, because they would be deal breakers just out of principle. For if I’m paying upwards of 80k on a car. I don't want to be charged:

£109.00 for proper wheel badges or £77.00 for a 911 badge!
If I were spending £3.739.00 on some extra electric functions on my seats and a seat memory package (and these aren’t even the adaptive seats) then I don’t want to be charged a further £320.00 for them to be heated or £720.00 for them to be ventilated!!! And as for the rear wiper.....£235.00! How about i call the police now and report that Porsche are trying to rape me!!


Edited by richard300 on Monday 21st November 10:58

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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"Sound Symposer" eh? Funny how the M5 is getting slated for this silliness, but not the Porsche.