Thursday 8th December 2011

New 911 GT3 spied

First shots of new hardcore Porsche hit the web

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The new 991-generation 911 might have only just been launched, but already spy shots of the hardcore GT3 variant have surfaced on the netweb.

The pictures, taken by German mag Auto Motor und Sport clearly show bespoke bumpers front and rear, as well as a fixed rear spoiler and twin central exhaust pipes.

Other details for the new GT3 are sketchy, but expect power to be close to the 450hp achieved by the 997 GT3 RS, and a weight reduction over its predecessor of around 40kg.

PH also talked to a senior engineer on the 991 project, who confirmed that Porsche will use the Carrera's electric power steering set-up on the GT3.

We're pretty sure that will prove a controversial move for such a 'purist' machine, but we shall no doubt find out whether it works or not when the car hits the streets in 2013...

See the shots on Auto Motor und Sport's website here

[DazBock]

Hard to see too much difference in black but it still looks cool.

I'm lost how many variants are there now?

[[AJ]]

DazBock said:

I'm lost how many variants are there now?

2. 991 Carrera and the 991 Carrera S.

[DazBock]

[AJ] said:

DazBock said:

I'm lost how many variants are there now?

2. 991 Carrera and the 991 Carrera S.

Should have phrased this differently what I really meant was how many 991 vaiants are there going to be at any one time. Carrera 4S, GT2, GT3, GT3 RS...

[sleep envy]

997 line up was - c2, c4, c2s, c4s, c2 cab, c4 cab, c2s cab, c4s cab, targa, gts, gt3, gt3 rs, gt3 rs 4.0, sport classic, gt2, gt2 rs, turbo, turbo cab, turbo s, turbo s cab, cup, super cup, etc, etc plus the black series

[Akajak]

sleep envy said:

997 line up was - c2, c4, c2s, c4s, c2 cab, c4 cab, c2s cab, c4s cab, targa, gts, gt3, gt3 rs, gt3 rs 4.0, sport classic, gt2, gt2 rs, turbo, turbo cab, turbo s, turbo s cab, cup, super cup, etc, etc plus the black series

don't forget the 2 GTS' s 2 and 4wd!!!!

[GTEYE]

Assuming they all make a reappearance, what extra ones could there be...

c2tdi anyone?

sleep envy said:

997 line up was - c2, c4, c2s, c4s, c2 cab, c4 cab, c2s cab, c4s cab, targa, gts, gt3, gt3 rs, gt3 rs 4.0, sport classic, gt2, gt2 rs, turbo, turbo cab, turbo s, turbo s cab, cup, super cup, etc, etc plus the black series

[kambites]

GTEYE said:

c2tdi anyone?

Not in this generation, but it'll happen in the end.

[[AJ]]

DazBock said:

[AJ] said:

DazBock said:

I'm lost how many variants are there now?

2. 991 Carrera and the 991 Carrera S.

Should have phrased this differently what I really meant was how many 991 vaiants are there going to be at any one time. Carrera 4S, GT2, GT3, GT3 RS...

Sorry, I was being a bit pedantic! The truth is at this stage, we don't know exactly what will be launched. The rumours say that things will be named differently when it comes to the 'GT' 991 cars, so they may not follow the same naming conventions as the 996 / 997 ranges.

There will most likely be:
Carrera (C2)
Carrera S (C2S)
Carrera 4 (C4)
Carrera 4S (C4S)
Turbo

The GT3 is rumoured to be called 'RS', harping back to the air cooled days. There will most likely be a road based and track based version of that car. Perhaps RS Touring and RS Clubsport?

There will probably be a turbo version of the RS (GT2 equivalent) a couple of years later.

[sleep envy]

Akajak said:

don't forget the 2 GTS' s 2 and 4wd!!!!

I did wonder if anyone would spot that

GTEYE said:

Assuming they all make a reappearance, what extra ones could there be...

there's going to be a hybrid between the N/A and the turbo lump IIRC and no doubt other special editions which the marketing dept will come up with - they do it for every generation of car

[sleep envy]

[AJ] said:

The GT3 is rumoured to be called 'RS', harping back to the air cooled days. There will most likely be a road based and track based version of that car. Perhaps RS Touring and RS Clubsport?

sounds like a backwards step as they've had three types of GT3 and now will only be offering two

[GroundEffect]

sleep envy said:

997 line up was - c2, c4, c2s, c4s, c2 cab, c4 cab, c2s cab, c4s cab, targa, gts, gt3, gt3 rs, gt3 rs 4.0, sport classic, gt2, gt2 rs, turbo, turbo cab, turbo s, turbo s cab, cup, super cup, etc, etc plus the black series

Adding the Cup and Super Cup in there isn't really sensible given they're fully fledged racing cars. That's like adding the 458 Challenge to the 458 lineup.

[sleep envy]

GroundEffect said:

Adding the Cup and Super Cup in there isn't really sensible given they're fully fledged racing cars. That's like adding the 458 Challenge to the 458 lineup.

fully fledged racing cars that can, and have been, road registered

[GroundEffect]

sleep envy said:

GroundEffect said:

Adding the Cup and Super Cup in there isn't really sensible given they're fully fledged racing cars. That's like adding the 458 Challenge to the 458 lineup.

fully fledged racing cars that can, and have been, road registered

Pretty much any car could be made road legal, if you really wanted to

[sleep envy]

GroundEffect said:

Pretty much any car could be made road legal, if you really wanted to

what like in the space of an afternoon?

btw, he said variants of the 997, aren't they a variant?

[DazBock]

kambites said:

GTEYE said:

c2tdi anyone?

Not in this generation, but it'll happen in the end.

Or perhaps more likely an e911 - oh dear.

[KB_S1]

sleep envy said:

there's going to be a hybrid between the N/A and the turbo lump IIRC and no doubt other special editions which the marketing dept will come up with - they do it for every generation of car

No hybrids on this platform apparently, well according to this month's evo article.

[LukeBird]

It'll be interesting to see how well the GT3 is received now it is using a 'regular' 911 engine.

On a sidenote, how fabulous does this look-


(Courtesy of Auto Motor & Sport)

Presumably a regular 911 body hiding the GT3's running gear.

[Dave Hedgehog]

ecotty 2013

[TheRoadWarrior]

Dave Hedgehog said:

ecotty 2013

It'll certainly be in the running once released, but I don't see Porsche getting the GT3 out before late 2013/early 2014.

I'm rather excited, given how the GT3 RS 4.0 has been received

[Ollieb7]

Looks MUCH better with those purposefull wheels rather than those big 20" posing charriots that the current press cars are running ON.