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hi guys,whats the main difference between the 308 and 328,i know the 328 is the replacement
for the 308 but was the a major difference,there doesnt seem much difference in the price.also whats the reliability like,just loving the lines of the 308 gts
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3896226.htm
for the 308 but was the a major difference,there doesnt seem much difference in the price.also whats the reliability like,just loving the lines of the 308 gts
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3896226.htm
Depends on the variant.
Major changes are:
308 GTB Vetroresina- GRP bodied car, some cars fitted with dry sump and sprint spec cams, optional deeper front air dam / spoiler
308 GTB / GTS steel body, and minor tweaks . . . .big change was the introduction of the GTS "magnum" cars, some cars fitted with dry sump and sprint spec cams
308 GTBi, Carbs dropped leading to loss in power from 240 to ~ 210BHP, dry sump / sprint spec dropped, interior given mild face lift
308 GTBi QV, 16V heads mean power back up to 240bhp, more interior changes, most cars fitted with milimetric wheels / tyres (boooo hiss!)
328 GTB, 3.2l motor, a few mods to the motor, nothing major, body coloured bumpers, revamped interior
328 GTB - 88.5 on more changes, biggest of which is introduction of ABS
Being Ferrari, there are of course lots of variants and small spec changes, with some upgrades only appearing on production cars, when the old stock ran out, for example, early QV cars, had the plenum from the GTBi cars, it was only later into the first year of QV production, that they got the embossed QV plenum. The cars also went back and forth between single and twin distributors
Carb cars sound fantastic, QV's on are a little easier to live with.
And IMHO a used and well maintained 308 is the equal of the same period 911 as far as reliability and longevity (apart from rust protection, the later the car, the better the rust protection, full galvanised bodies from around 1984, with partial from the early 80's, again minor variations depend on what parts were left in the stores)
Major changes are:
308 GTB Vetroresina- GRP bodied car, some cars fitted with dry sump and sprint spec cams, optional deeper front air dam / spoiler
308 GTB / GTS steel body, and minor tweaks . . . .big change was the introduction of the GTS "magnum" cars, some cars fitted with dry sump and sprint spec cams
308 GTBi, Carbs dropped leading to loss in power from 240 to ~ 210BHP, dry sump / sprint spec dropped, interior given mild face lift
308 GTBi QV, 16V heads mean power back up to 240bhp, more interior changes, most cars fitted with milimetric wheels / tyres (boooo hiss!)
328 GTB, 3.2l motor, a few mods to the motor, nothing major, body coloured bumpers, revamped interior
328 GTB - 88.5 on more changes, biggest of which is introduction of ABS
Being Ferrari, there are of course lots of variants and small spec changes, with some upgrades only appearing on production cars, when the old stock ran out, for example, early QV cars, had the plenum from the GTBi cars, it was only later into the first year of QV production, that they got the embossed QV plenum. The cars also went back and forth between single and twin distributors
Carb cars sound fantastic, QV's on are a little easier to live with.
And IMHO a used and well maintained 308 is the equal of the same period 911 as far as reliability and longevity (apart from rust protection, the later the car, the better the rust protection, full galvanised bodies from around 1984, with partial from the early 80's, again minor variations depend on what parts were left in the stores)
Edited by AndrewW-G on Saturday 16th June 21:11
Rocco1 said:
hi guys,whats the main difference between the 308 and 328,i know the 328 is the replacement
for the 308 but was the a major difference,there doesnt seem much difference in the price.also whats the reliability like,just loving the lines of the 308 gts
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3896226.htm
Wow this car has 11 previous owners! for the 308 but was the a major difference,there doesnt seem much difference in the price.also whats the reliability like,just loving the lines of the 308 gts
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3896226.htm
Is this some sort of a record for the age of the car?
lots of these cars changed hands in the late 80's due to the massive price swings at that time. A colleague bought a then new 328 from a local dealer, who offered him £10000 more than he paid for it the day he picked it up! Then the prices crashed!
Most important thing is present condition. body and engine. Lots of service bills dont guarantee anything. I bought a 328 GTS which had about £1000 PA spent on it in the 10 years before I owned it. Hadnt really been driven properly though so a few issues. A few basic service items missed.
Conversely a mate bought an identical car, very low mileage with some history, but lots and lots of problems mainly as the car sat unused for so long.
They all rust. Ferrari 'rustproofing' was 1980's and not that great. Chassis can rust on all cars.
General rule with them though, is the last of the line are the best made!
Most important thing is present condition. body and engine. Lots of service bills dont guarantee anything. I bought a 328 GTS which had about £1000 PA spent on it in the 10 years before I owned it. Hadnt really been driven properly though so a few issues. A few basic service items missed.
Conversely a mate bought an identical car, very low mileage with some history, but lots and lots of problems mainly as the car sat unused for so long.
They all rust. Ferrari 'rustproofing' was 1980's and not that great. Chassis can rust on all cars.
General rule with them though, is the last of the line are the best made!
I saw this car some years back (when it was a lot cheaper).
At the time it had rust if you look inside the front wing with the front door open. It had been painted before but it appeared to only have been a superficial job. There was also some corrosion under the rear clamshell to the right side of the engine bay. But at this price I would hope it has since been rectified properly.
The engines on 308s are bulletproof and relatively simple. It's the body and structure you need to check over very carefully.
At the time it had rust if you look inside the front wing with the front door open. It had been painted before but it appeared to only have been a superficial job. There was also some corrosion under the rear clamshell to the right side of the engine bay. But at this price I would hope it has since been rectified properly.
The engines on 308s are bulletproof and relatively simple. It's the body and structure you need to check over very carefully.
Both are great cars in my biased opinion. 328 quite a bit more refined and better screwed together than a 308 in my experience, actually quite painless to use if you happen to not be in the "mood"- whether that is a good thing or not depends what you want!
In either case, very satisfying car to own in my view, and did I mention the looks?
In either case, very satisfying car to own in my view, and did I mention the looks?
cgt2 said:
I saw this car some years back (when it was a lot cheaper).
At the time it had rust if you look inside the front wing with the front door open. It had been painted before but it appeared to only have been a superficial job. There was also some corrosion under the rear clamshell to the right side of the engine bay. But at this price I would hope it has since been rectified properly.
The engines on 308s are bulletproof and relatively simple. It's the body and structure you need to check over very carefully.
They've sold that car. At the time it had rust if you look inside the front wing with the front door open. It had been painted before but it appeared to only have been a superficial job. There was also some corrosion under the rear clamshell to the right side of the engine bay. But at this price I would hope it has since been rectified properly.
The engines on 308s are bulletproof and relatively simple. It's the body and structure you need to check over very carefully.
we drove our 308 QV GTS to the recent Spa Classic, in essentially a heatwave. Car never missed a beat, including 3 x 45 minute track sessions - what a circuit ! In the paddock the 308 and 246 were the most photographed cars, bar none. At less than half the price of a 246, the 308's are extremely good value at present 
POORCARDEALER said:
328 GTB...make sure u fit i it, Im only 6ft 1 and my head was jammed against the roof.
What he said - I'm 5ft 10 and had the same trouble. The driving position in the 308 was much more comfortable - but the sun visors were still useless as they covered most of the windscreen when they were down 
I had a 308GTS carb car until a year ago and also bought a 328 GTS which I still have. For a short while I had them concurrently.
So which is best?...
Sadly the answer is 'it depends'!
308s look beautiful - they have very pure lines and look right from any angle. The carb cars offer a 'classic car' driving experience...you know you're not in a modern car. Carb set up can be tricky leading to flat spots and plug fouling, but get it right and the carbs will stay in tune indefinitely, so I would not rate this as a problem. However, very few cars are sorted in this respect and that has led to a view that they are troublesome.
308 Carb
Good points: Classic looks, great noise, stylish interior with toggle switches, ride comfort if you retain the 14 inch wheels, gear change...the lever is 2 inches shorter on carb cars. Driving it feels like an event and the car is amazingly well screwed together. It's old enough to be a classic and not just a cheap Ferrari.
Bad points: Rust...and from my personal experience; non existent handbrake, cooling system airlocks, intermittent electric fan motors, clutch pedal pressure (reduced by 35% on subsequent 308i). You can't just get in and drive it - you have to pamper it.
328
Good points: Good looking in a different way, performance, amazing handbrake(!), ease of driving, can drive it anywhere at a moments notice, for a Ferrari it doesn't rust badly.
Bad points: Not as involving to drive (at license retaining speeds), Fiat cost cutting apparent in interior (plastics and switchgear), pedals even more cramped than 308.
Both are brilliant cars that will make you smile every time you drive them. I miss the 308...shouldn't have sold it!
So which is best?...
Sadly the answer is 'it depends'!
308s look beautiful - they have very pure lines and look right from any angle. The carb cars offer a 'classic car' driving experience...you know you're not in a modern car. Carb set up can be tricky leading to flat spots and plug fouling, but get it right and the carbs will stay in tune indefinitely, so I would not rate this as a problem. However, very few cars are sorted in this respect and that has led to a view that they are troublesome.
308 Carb
Good points: Classic looks, great noise, stylish interior with toggle switches, ride comfort if you retain the 14 inch wheels, gear change...the lever is 2 inches shorter on carb cars. Driving it feels like an event and the car is amazingly well screwed together. It's old enough to be a classic and not just a cheap Ferrari.
Bad points: Rust...and from my personal experience; non existent handbrake, cooling system airlocks, intermittent electric fan motors, clutch pedal pressure (reduced by 35% on subsequent 308i). You can't just get in and drive it - you have to pamper it.
328
Good points: Good looking in a different way, performance, amazing handbrake(!), ease of driving, can drive it anywhere at a moments notice, for a Ferrari it doesn't rust badly.
Bad points: Not as involving to drive (at license retaining speeds), Fiat cost cutting apparent in interior (plastics and switchgear), pedals even more cramped than 308.
Both are brilliant cars that will make you smile every time you drive them. I miss the 308...shouldn't have sold it!
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