RE: Spotted: Honda Civic Type-R JDM

RE: Spotted: Honda Civic Type-R JDM

Tuesday 27th November 2012

Spotted: Honda Civic Type R (FD2)

An 8,600rpm redline, an LSD and 60mph in less than six seconds? Yes please!



Honda's most revered Type Rs have typically been produced using the most ordinary of base cars. The Integra was a completely humdrum coupe for many years before the DC2 iteration and its iconic flagship. The Accord too was the plainest and most reliable repmobile you could find; as a Type-R, though, it was a hugely rewarding sports saloon.

The FD2 Civic Type R saloon is therefore a chip off the blueprinted block for fast Hondas. In Britain, as if to accentuate its staid image, the only saloon Civic recently available was the Hybrid. Given the dramatic appearance of the FN2 Civic hatch, this seemed almost a deliberate ploy by Honda to make hybrids and saloons the dullest options in Britain.

JDM car puts boot into the UK Civic
JDM car puts boot into the UK Civic
But the Japanese don't suffer our aversion to saloons. This meant they received a Civic Type R with a boot and, more significantly, one which advanced the Type R formula in a way the UK car hadn't. The FN2 hatch might have looked all space-agey on its 2006 launch, but it was something of a disappointment; a miniscule power increase and a rudimentary torsion beam suspension ensured it was outgunned by its new Ford and Vauxhall rivals whilst also being a less desirable Type R than its boxy EP3 predecessor.

The Japanese domestic market (JDM) saloon, however, was a hardcore Honda in the best fashion. An offical power output of 225hp beat the 200hp of the UK car and was produced at 8,000rpm. This was sent coursing through the front wheels via a limited-slip differential, while a fully independent rear end boosted handling credentials further. The sprint to 60mph was officially recorded at 5.9 secs, versus 6.6 secs for the UK car.

Sure, it was nothing like as adventourous to look at, either inside or out, as the British hatch, but since when has appearance been important to a decent Type R?

RPM needle swung wider
RPM needle swung wider
As with the best JDM cars, demand soon ensured a few Type Rs were imported to Britain. To prove the effectiveness of the FD2 package, an early Litchfield car was pitted against a British hatch by Fifth Gear. The bare figures show the Japanese car to be three seconds quicker around a 90-second lap of Castle Combe.

There's no doubt the FD2 Civic Type R is a stunning driver's car, but it looks like being a shrewd investment also. In 2008, it appeared costly at £22,995 when the British Type R could be had for £5k less, even allowing for the increased performance.

Four years and 12,000 miles later though, our featured car is being sold for a confident £17,995. Assuming the seller gets it, that's 78 percent of its original value, a stunningly high figure for a car that wasn't hugely expensive originally in the grand scheme of car buying.

Residuals of this strength indicate just how revered the FD2 is amongst enthusiasts, and a glacial rate of depreciation reduces the potential cost of ownership. Its cult status typically means cherished ownership also, as this example appears to prove.

Of course, the UK cars are a whole lot less now. Here's a 2009 Type R in GT spec with a still low 24,000 miles for almost seven grand less.

With the demise of naturally aspirated Type R Hondas, models like the FD2 Civic will surely become even more sought-after. It proffers an undiluted Type R experience, one that now has to change and evolve in the face of stringent emissions legislation. And if a rapid Honda saloon tickles your fancy but £17,995 is out of reach, how about an Accord Type R for less than £2k?

 

Honda Civic Type R (FD2)

Engine: 1998cc four-cylinder
Transmission: Six-speed manual, FWD, LSD
Power (hp): 225@8000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 159@6100rpm
CO2: n/a
MPG: 31.7
First registered: 2008
Recorded mileage: 12,350
Price new: £22,995
Yours for: £17,995

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Gorbyrev

Original Poster:

1,160 posts

154 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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Fab machine! Such a shame that Captain Scarlet's UK Civic didn't get the JDM treatment.

Alanok

45 posts

182 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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If you took the engineering of the FD2 and the spaceship looks of the FN2, you'd have a cracking car.

Depreciation on these things is shockingly slow compared to the FN2, I don't think i'll get £8k for mine right now.

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

188 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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Love the FD2, there's one I see regularly around Stevenage, makes a great noise.

If you've ever seen the dashboard in these at night then you'll know they have plenty of space-ship looks!

Frimley111R

15,663 posts

234 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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Nice! Just needs to be white (IMO) smile

TEKNOPUG

18,951 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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£18k? Fantasy.

stew-S160

8,006 posts

238 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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I keep thinking this should be my next car, but I can't get the FWD out of my mind. Having owned a DC2 ITR, I know it's not that much of an issue, but I'm definitely in the 'RWD=right wheel drive' camp.

Still, a test drive when I'm ready should help my decision making. I would love another Type R.

Itsallicanafford

2,770 posts

159 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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...IMO, the Accord type R is where the value is.

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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TEKNOPUG said:
£18k? Fantasy.
Indeed.

You could buy this - http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

....and this - http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

...and still have some pocket money left.





GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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Itsallicanafford said:
...IMO, the Accord type R is where the value is.
Agreed they are approaching shed money - my brother sold his recently - he'd owned it from new - full Honda main dealer service history etc. and it made £1800

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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SuperchargedVR6 said:
Indeed.

You could buy this - http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

....and this - http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

...and still have some pocket money left.
That M5 is stunning ...

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

201 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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Pppffffftttt....wrong colour for a start. And it still has no torque and wrong wheel drive.



You forgot to mention that it came 6th in EVO COTY 2007 if that matters at all wink

motor mad

473 posts

189 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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I will own an FD2 at some point. I'll be watching the next Type-R with a lot of interest. Please Honda. Don't disapoint.

the stigs dad

378 posts

138 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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Love it. Much better looking and performance than our diluted uk spec civics. I'm a honda fan but they need to give us what the japs get please!

rossub

4,444 posts

190 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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the stigs dad said:
Love it. Much better looking and performance than our diluted uk spec civics. I'm a honda fan but they need to give us what the japs get please!
Looks are clearly subjective. I think it looks pants compared to the FN2, but there's no denying its a much better machine.

Dagnut

3,515 posts

193 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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DC5 not far of this for 1/3rd of the price

robinandcamera

265 posts

180 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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This looks fun, 20k, UK special order FD2, forged engine and 390 bhp tts supercharger kit:

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...


Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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There's a 300bhp supercharged one for £18,995 too...

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

It's a little more 'ricey' to look at though...


craig9367

52 posts

142 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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I cant see it fetching that money

On UK roads the ride on these is ridiculously harsh too, it makes the FN2 feel like a rolls

stew-S160

8,006 posts

238 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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robinandcamera said:
This looks fun, 20k, UK special order FD2, forged engine and 390 bhp tts supercharger kit:

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...
Tasty.

Gorbyrev

Original Poster:

1,160 posts

154 months

Tuesday 27th November 2012
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stew-S160 said:
robinandcamera said:
This looks fun, 20k, UK special order FD2, forged engine and 390 bhp tts supercharger kit:

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...
Tasty.
Just shy of 200hp/l spin