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Good evening folks, sorry to resurrect an old subject, but does anyone know which 5 stud hub works on the chimaera? I have read of a jeep or a 4x4 ford fitting but wondered if there is a definitive answer please? I am aware of the sportmotive conversion but not happy about all the strain on an adapted hub, cheers Jon
really depends what wheels You want to use ,ie PCD of the studs. the ford 4x4 or granada hubs will allow you to have same wheels as the wedges or purchase wheels suitable. The sportmotive exchange hubs will allow you to fit spiders / T car wheels. don't think the Jeep hubs ( which are used on the T cars ) will fit on the splines for the drive shaft part of the original hub.
no expert on the matter , but I do have all the above mentioned parts as I was looking doing the same on my Griff.
Cheers
Geoff.
no expert on the matter , but I do have all the above mentioned parts as I was looking doing the same on my Griff.
Cheers
Geoff.
bhpjon said:
Good evening folks, sorry to resurrect an old subject, but does anyone know which 5 stud hub works on the chimaera? I have read of a jeep or a 4x4 ford fitting but wondered if there is a definitive answer please? I am aware of the sportmotive conversion but not happy about all the strain on an adapted hub, cheers Jon
Tis a long and drawn out subject sir.I think when it comes down to it there were some ford hubs that would/could be a direct fit if only anyone knew (or would tell) where they are from and even if they are still available.
The Granada ones LOOK like they might fit but you'd want an original to compare to. If they DID fit though why would sportmotive be modifying the 4 stud ones........
Bottom line - I don't think anyone is sure or wants to say! I spose you could pick up a sierra front and rear hub off ebay (from which the Chim original is taken) and buy up a few granada/cherokee/maverick hubs and measure and compare.
Either that or send them off to China and have a factory out there knock up a bulk load of 5's that would work!
The market for them would be pretty good I'd think........
Hi , not ready to sell any of My bits just yet , still got to work out what I am going to do with My griff.
The spider wheels will fit on the old ford 5 stud hubs but you would have to use those horrible wobble nuts to fix them on because the PCD of the ford and the Jeep hubs are a couple of mm different. The spiders were made to go on the jeep hubs.
If you want to fit spiders then the sportmotive hubs should do the trick , I have not seen them up close but the pictures on their website look as thou they are pretty well made. As a commerical company they can't afford to sell something that will break easily and I'm sure they don't.
fitting the ford 5 stud hubs is the easiest route but then you would have to buy different wheels so why not just buy wheels for the 4 stud hubs ?
Good Luck
Geoff.
The spider wheels will fit on the old ford 5 stud hubs but you would have to use those horrible wobble nuts to fix them on because the PCD of the ford and the Jeep hubs are a couple of mm different. The spiders were made to go on the jeep hubs.
If you want to fit spiders then the sportmotive hubs should do the trick , I have not seen them up close but the pictures on their website look as thou they are pretty well made. As a commerical company they can't afford to sell something that will break easily and I'm sure they don't.
fitting the ford 5 stud hubs is the easiest route but then you would have to buy different wheels so why not just buy wheels for the 4 stud hubs ?
Good Luck
Geoff.
bhpjon said:
Good evening folks, sorry to resurrect an old subject, but does anyone know which 5 stud hub works on the chimaera? I have read of a jeep or a 4x4 ford fitting but wondered if there is a definitive answer please? I am aware of the sportmotive conversion but not happy about all the strain on an adapted hub, cheers Jon
I`ve seen a few 5stud conversions which have problems with the standard width tyres catching the wheel arch ..not sure what kits are available..hi , enter "tvr tuscan hub" in ebay search box and you will get several options , some cost £50 and some cost £120 , I think the difference in cost is due to the actual bearing inside the hub , but don't hold me to that. I'm sure a TVR spares shop will tell you why the price is so different.
not sure if the cerbera's used the same hubs , defo 5 stud so I think they do.
Cheers
Geoff.
not sure if the cerbera's used the same hubs , defo 5 stud so I think they do.
Cheers
Geoff.
Geoff38 said:
hi , enter "tvr tuscan hub" in ebay search box and you will get several options , some cost £50 and some cost £120 , I think the difference in cost is due to the actual bearing inside the hub , but don't hold me to that. I'm sure a TVR spares shop will tell you why the price is so different.
not sure if the cerbera's used the same hubs , defo 5 stud so I think they do.
Cheers
Geoff.
I don't believe Chims or Griffs used Tuscan/T350 hubs hence the original OP's query on "Jeep" hubs.not sure if the cerbera's used the same hubs , defo 5 stud so I think they do.
Cheers
Geoff.
Only if TVR's were that simple............8-/
K4TRV said:
I don't believe Chims or Griffs used Tuscan/T350 hubs hence the original OP's query on "Jeep" hubs.
Only if TVR's were that simple............8-/
sorry thought I had explained in previous posts , I know the griff and chim do not use the tuscan Hubs , they are 4 stud ford......Only if TVR's were that simple............8-/
SILICONEKID350HP said:
bhpjon said:
Good evening folks, sorry to resurrect an old subject, but does anyone know which 5 stud hub works on the chimaera? I have read of a jeep or a 4x4 ford fitting but wondered if there is a definitive answer please? I am aware of the sportmotive conversion but not happy about all the strain on an adapted hub, cheers Jon
I`ve seen a few 5stud conversions which have problems with the standard width tyres catching the wheel arch ..not sure what kits are available..
Edited by portzi on Tuesday 16th April 22:18
The standard spider rear has an offset that is very different than the 4 stud standard hub. Mine was fitted with the factory 5 stud upgrade and the drive shafts had to be shortened for the more inboard replacement hub. The hubs were converted in house by TVR Eng but I don't know which car they were from. The rears are fitted with Ford Scorpio discs. The steering rack was fitted with spaces to reduce lock to lock and thereby prevent rubbing by the wider tyres.
@bhpjon
Where abouts in the northeast are you, I live near Redcar if you fancy having a look at a completed job
I have a pdf of the TVR Eng instruction manual that came with their upgrade kit. If you'd like a copy PM me and I'll email it to you
Where abouts in the northeast are you, I live near Redcar if you fancy having a look at a completed job
I have a pdf of the TVR Eng instruction manual that came with their upgrade kit. If you'd like a copy PM me and I'll email it to you
Edited by bobfather on Tuesday 16th April 18:10
bobfather said:
The standard spider rear has an offset that is very different than the 4 stud standard hub. Mine was fitted with the factory 5 stud upgrade and the drive shafts had to be shortened for the more inboard replacement hub. The hubs were converted in house by TVR Eng but I don't know which car they were from. The rears are fitted with Ford Scorpio discs. The steering rack was fitted with spaces to reduce lock to lock and thereby prevent rubbing by the wider tyres.
Think you might be confusing things a bit there Bob.No changes at all to the drive shafts, it's the output shafts (stub axle) that needed to be trimmed so the inside dia of the wheels would fit (or bore out the inside of the wheel & fit bigger centre caps) AIUI. Nothing to with the offset ~ that is dictated by the face the wheel sits in relation to the chassis. The correct factory spiders front/rear have similar offsets to std Griff/Chim wheels with respect to the slightly different tyre fitments. I think some of the internet may have got clouded by the sprotmotive upgrades which may be a bit chalk & cheese when you look at the details even though at first glance you'd think they are the same (I kind of got bored trying to understand the differences or how you could run 4 fronts as I have mine
& I'm happy...)Neill Anderson on 03/10/2003 15:27 said:
The output shafts need to be trimmed of excess thread to allow wheel centre
cap to fit, we are trying to include these machined down on lathe but it is
quite easy to trim with hacksaw if parts are scarce!
I was quite clear about this as I did all the upgrade work myself, and Neill was pretty good at advising about any changes/snags/tips that he discovered whilst releasing the kit. AIUI even this was rectified after the first 15 or so factory upgrade kits so that it the work was automatically done on all the factory hub parts (in the kit).cap to fit, we are trying to include these machined down on lathe but it is
quite easy to trim with hacksaw if parts are scarce!
spend said:
Think you might be confusing things a bit there Bob.
No changes at all to the drive shafts, it's the output shafts (stub axle) that needed to be trimmed so the inside dia of the wheels would fit (or bore out the inside of the wheel & fit bigger centre caps) AIUI. Nothing to with the offset ~ that is dictated by the face the wheel sits in relation to the chassis. The correct factory spiders front/rear have similar offsets to std Griff/Chim wheels with respect to the slightly different tyre fitments. I think some of the internet may have got clouded by the sprotmotive upgrades which may be a bit chalk & cheese when you look at the details even though at first glance you'd think they are the same (I kind of got bored trying to understand the differences or how you could run 4 fronts as I have mine & I'm happy...)
Oops, quite right, half shafts, not drive shaft. The spider wheels are wider, I guess that's why the hub face needs to be set further inboardNo changes at all to the drive shafts, it's the output shafts (stub axle) that needed to be trimmed so the inside dia of the wheels would fit (or bore out the inside of the wheel & fit bigger centre caps) AIUI. Nothing to with the offset ~ that is dictated by the face the wheel sits in relation to the chassis. The correct factory spiders front/rear have similar offsets to std Griff/Chim wheels with respect to the slightly different tyre fitments. I think some of the internet may have got clouded by the sprotmotive upgrades which may be a bit chalk & cheese when you look at the details even though at first glance you'd think they are the same (I kind of got bored trying to understand the differences or how you could run 4 fronts as I have mine
& I'm happy...)SILICONEKID350HP said:
There are loads to choose from in the original 4 stud setup. slike a lot of money to spend before you have even bought the new wheels.
I thought spiders are very heavy and only come in 16" and 18"..
They do but they are stunning wheels, even though they are made of tinfoil and will double the weight of the car. ....I thought spiders are very heavy and only come in 16" and 18"..
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