ACPO an "unaccountable club"

ACPO an "unaccountable club"

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Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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XDA said:
Yes, Steve Callaghan ( pitmansboots). A rather odious and repulsive little man who works for Road Safety Support Ltd, part of ACPO plc. If you google his name, there's lots of interesting facts about him!

It's a shame the PH photoshop fraternity don't seem to visit SP&L much.

whistle

XDA

2,141 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st May 2013
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Johnnytheboy said:
XDA said:
Yes, Steve Callaghan ( pitmansboots). A rather odious and repulsive little man who works for Road Safety Support Ltd, part of ACPO plc. If you google his name, there's lots of interesting facts about him!

It's a shame the PH photoshop fraternity don't seem to visit SP&L much.

whistle
Perhaps someone should start a "Photoshop Steve Callaghan" topic in The Lounge?

Just saying like.... whistlehehe

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

196 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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XDA said:
Perhaps someone should start a "Photoshop Steve Callaghan" topic in The Lounge?

Just saying like.... whistlehehe
He can hardly complain... Steve is a Photoshop artist himself, having once posted a picture of me with a Santa hat on!

Is it there yet? smile

XDA

2,141 posts

185 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Mill Wheel said:
XDA said:
Perhaps someone should start a "Photoshop Steve Callaghan" topic in The Lounge?

Just saying like.... whistlehehe
He can hardly complain... Steve is a Photoshop artist himself, having once posted a picture of me with a Santa hat on!

Is it there yet? smile
Steve's clearly a man of many talents then! Lying (under oath and about his past) and photoshopping skills. Pretty much sums up the scamera "industry".

It's a shame I don't have the photoshop skills to start the topic off. Anyone willing to do the honours? smile

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

262 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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XDA said:
premio said:
Fastdruid said:
ACPO, it's a private, for profit company.

Personally I think it's disgusting and dodgy as hell.
I can't believe that I never knew! Just done some reading up on it, yes can definitely see why there might be conflict of interested. I'm pretty gobsmacked to be honest yikes
The ACPO plc and RSS ltd partnership is very "interesting".

I raised this link before in another discussion on here but the resident "double act" begged to differ. Perhaps they'll surface again. smile

GC8 said:
Mill Wheel said:
Not everyone at ACPO is a senior policeman!
However I accept the bit about them serving their own interests... especially the RSS division!

Their so called expert who wrote the speed meter handbook has shown at times to be a bit less expert than he claims, lies about his other (failed) business interests, and his membership of a professional body!
I wonder if Ken McDonald is even aware of that little bed of thorns yet? rolleyes
Is this the sad little weasel of a man that I think it is? I had been told that he worked for a SCP, but now understand that it is this self-serving shower of b*stards.
Yes, Steve Callaghan ( pitmansboots). A rather odious and repulsive little man who works for Road Safety Support Ltd, part of ACPO plc. If you google his name, there's lots of interesting facts about him!

And not a patch on this gentleman.



Paul Smith.
Founder of SafeSpeed and a devastating critic of UK Road policing policies.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Eh?

streaky

Original Poster:

19,311 posts

249 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2013
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Mill Wheel said:
He can hardly complain... Steve is a Photoshopiss artist himself, ...
Fixed that for you.

Streaky

Fixed it better.


Edited by streaky on Thursday 23 May 19:30

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

196 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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XDA said:
Steve's clearly a man of many talents then! Lying (under oath and about his past) and photoshopping skills. Pretty much sums up the scamera "industry".

It's a shame I don't have the photoshop skills to start the topic off. Anyone willing to do the honours? smile

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Needs a longer nose.

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

196 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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GC8 said:
Needs a longer nose.
Difficult when head on, but if you compare the original...

Somewhere on my old PC there is a pic of Steve enjoying a "track" day at Bruntingthorpe as guests of REDSPEED, next to a speeding truck!
He then featured on their website endorsing their products - so hardly an impartial "expert" witness!

XDA

2,141 posts

185 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Mill Wheel said:
XDA said:
Steve's clearly a man of many talents then! Lying (under oath and about his past) and photoshopping skills. Pretty much sums up the scamera "industry".

It's a shame I don't have the photoshop skills to start the topic off. Anyone willing to do the honours? smile
This is excellent! hehe

GC8 said:
Needs a longer nose.
I fear there won't be a nose long enough!

XDA

2,141 posts

185 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Mill Wheel said:
Difficult when head on, but if you compare the original...

Somewhere on my old PC there is a pic of Steve enjoying a "track" day at Bruntingthorpe as guests of REDSPEED, next to a speeding truck!
He then featured on their website endorsing their products - so hardly an impartial "expert" witness!
Ah, the REDSPEED cameras. They must have given Steve nightmares!

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/16/1668.asp

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/12/1217.asp

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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It's only fair that Pitsmansboots/steve Callaghan be allowed to give his side of the story.

Anything to say, Mr. C?


Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Nice to see a thread largely based on personal attacks on someone who hasn't even posted and other such bks.

Is the libertarian society having a slow day?

XDA

2,141 posts

185 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Rovinghawk said:
It's only fair that Pitsmansboots/steve Callaghan be allowed to give his side of the story.

Anything to say, Mr. C?
Indeed it is, and no ones prevented from giving his side...

Devil2575 said:
Nice to see a thread largely based on personal attacks on someone who hasn't even posted and other such bks.

Is the libertarian society having a slow day?
Talking of "such bks", Why don't you tell us that ACPO and it's subsidiaries (RSS Ltd) are all above board, there's no conflicts of interest and it's all transparent etc like you have in the past?

Perhaps you need to listen to those who know first hand what Steve's like?

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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XDA said:
Devil2575 said:
Nice to see a thread largely based on personal attacks on someone who hasn't even posted and other such bks.

Is the libertarian society having a slow day?
Talking of "such bks", Why don't you tell us that ACPO and it's subsidiaries (RSS Ltd) are all above board, there's no conflicts of interest and it's all transparent etc like you have in the past?

Perhaps you need to listen to those who know first hand what Steve's like?
I've read loads of stuff about him on this forum and through links others have posted. I don't see what that has to do with anything. Is he actually a member of ACPO? Do you condemn a whole organisation based on it's association with this one man?

Actually haven't ever made any comments about ACPO with reference to conflicts on interest and transparency to the best of my knowledge. You have me confused with someone else I suspect.

I've also read a lot of what you and other contributors have posted on this forum and I stand by my assessment of "bks" but I will also add "conspiratorial crap" for good measure biggrin

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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I'd love to know why you're taking such an interest...

rohrl

8,738 posts

145 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Devil2575 said:
Nice to see a thread largely based on personal attacks on someone who hasn't even posted and other such bks.
To be scrupulously fair to Callaghan though he is a . A lying at that.

XDA

2,141 posts

185 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Devil2575 said:
XDA said:
Devil2575 said:
Nice to see a thread largely based on personal attacks on someone who hasn't even posted and other such bks.

Is the libertarian society having a slow day?
Talking of "such bks", Why don't you tell us that ACPO and it's subsidiaries (RSS Ltd) are all above board, there's no conflicts of interest and it's all transparent etc like you have in the past?

Perhaps you need to listen to those who know first hand what Steve's like?
I've read loads of stuff about him on this forum and through links others have posted. I don't see what that has to do with anything. Is he actually a member of ACPO? Do you condemn a whole organisation based on it's association with this one man?

Actually haven't ever made any comments about ACPO with reference to conflicts on interest and transparency to the best of my knowledge. You have me confused with someone else I suspect.

I've also read a lot of what you and other contributors have posted on this forum and I stand by my assessment of "bks" but I will also add "conspiratorial crap" for good measure biggrin
No, he isn't a member of ACPO but works for one of its subsidiaries RSS Ltd but you already knew that? I condemn the organisation based on its secrecy and connection with such organisations like RSS Ltd.

If anyone's confused, it must be you! Let me refresh your memory:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

You're entitled to your opinion re "bks" and "conspiratorial crap", even if it makes you look rather silly.

There's a member on here who can quote endless examples of Steve Callaghan's lies. From what the member has told me, Callaghan deserves everything he gets and more.

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

196 months

Friday 24th May 2013
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Devil2575 said:
Nice to see a thread largely based on personal attacks on someone who hasn't even posted and other such bks.

Is the libertarian society having a slow day?
No, they are just responding in kind to Pitmansboots previous posts, when he makes personal attacks himself.
It's not just on PH - he has recently been banned from UK POLICE ONLINE!


Devil2575 said:
I've read loads of stuff about him on this forum and through links others have posted. I don't see what that has to do with anything. Is he actually a member of ACPO? Do you condemn a whole organisation based on it's association with this one man?

Actually haven't ever made any comments about ACPO with reference to conflicts on interest and transparency to the best of my knowledge. You have me confused with someone else I suspect.

I've also read a lot of what you and other contributors have posted on this forum and I stand by my assessment of "bks" but I will also add "conspiratorial crap" for good measure biggrin
He works for RSS - a subsidiary of ACPO, and in version 1 of the ACPO speed meter guide, Steve Callaghan is acknowledged as editor and contributing author... http://www.northants.police.uk/files/linked/safer-...
although in version 1.1 his name has been omitted. http://www.acpo.police.uk/documents/uniformed/2011...

The OP has a quote from Ken MacDonald, former DPP who also describes the ACPO as composed of "senior policemen who have tended over the years to serve their own interests".
The assertion in many posts here is that Steve Callaghan also serves his own interests, and lacks the honesty and integrity required to do his job.
I don't think it unfair to point this out - he is a liar and it has been proven that he is a liar elsewhere and on PH
He breaks forum rules by using multiple login names - often using one personality to support the arguments of another.

Finally his arrogance is what really shows him up for what he is... as typified here:
http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=...