RE: Driving her majesty's Jag

RE: Driving her majesty's Jag

Tuesday 9th July 2013

Driving her majesty's Jag

A royal wave from PH as we waft around central London in some regal (genuinely) Jags and Rangies



Land Rover has had plenty to celebrate this year. Along with its 65th anniversary and the debut of the second-gen Range Rover Sport (we did mention that, right?), 2013 marks 60 years of the Queen's coronation. Land Rover is therefore particularly keen to celebrate its regal ties, hence our drive in Her Majesty's Land Rover V8 recently. And this weekend saw a celebration of both Land Rover and Jaguar products with royal links, taking in elements of the Coronation route along the way. Rude not to blow some of the cobwebs out of the fleet. At a suitably regal pace, of course.



1955 Jaguar MkVIIM saloon
Usually when a writer focuses on one facet of a car's character, it's something like the noise, the speed or the styling. What you need to know about the Queen Mother's Jaguar Mk VIIM saloon is the smell.

There's an indomitable and inescapable aroma of aged leather and wood, one that is intensified as heat from the mechanical components permeates the cabin. Even with the windows lowered there is no escaping it; like a piece of old furniture, it's a scent of the past that's utterly unique and quite intoxicating (actually, that probably was the fumes).

The furniture analogy can be further extended to driving the 1955 MkVII. Being perched on a bench seat (fixed in Her Majesty's preferred driving position) with no seatbelt gives the impression of controlling a sofa rather than anything automotive. The steering wheel, whilst beautifully thin and elegant in design, could easily double-up as a captain's ship wheel such is its diameter. It's not an ideal driving environment, put it that way.

Down the Mall and onto the coronation route, the MkVII certainly takes some acclimatisation. Both pedals take a firm push to elicit any response yet the steering can be twirled with just fingertips (thank the retrofitted power steering for that). A delicate wand of an indicator stalk is further at odds with the other quite firm controls.

It's fascinating to hear an engine note so inextricably linked with Jaguar sports cars emerging from a huge saloon, but there's an undeniable straight-six bark to the MkVII. However, whilst the engine came across from the the XK120, its disc brakes did not, so a formal request to the four drums should be sent well in advance of a stop through another stomp on the pedal.

But what an experience! Looking out across that vast plain of a bonnet, watching the needles on the Smiths dials wobble as the fluids warm and feeling the whole body shimmy as another gear is selected is so unfamiliar and yet beguiling at the same time.



2002 Daimler Super V8
It would always be hard to match the theatre of the Queen Mother's Jaguar, and so it proved with the 2002 Daimler Super V8. BK52DLO was used by the Queen from 2002 until 2004 and is now part of Jaguar's 150-car heritage fleet. It's one of the last X308-shape saloons produced at Browns Lane and standard, bar the very cool addition of some blues'n'twos lights.

And standard really does mean standard, right down to the Fiesta window switches. But that also means an utterly effortless drive, with an easily modulated throttle, a smooth-shifting auto box and an absorbent, pillowy ride.

The light tricks may not be road legal, but a dose of LWB Daimler V8 luxury is now available for £7,000 with an identical mechanical spec. It rather lacks some provenance however, and it doesn't have just 10,000 miles on the odometer...



2002 Range Rover Royal Review
With the two prioritised cars driven, there was just enough time for one more drive. With London's landmarks filling with tourists, the thought of navigating Parliament Square in an early Land Rover filled me with dread. The fact that Autocar's Darren Moss had suffered a breakdown in a Series II meant a modern vehicle effectively chose itself. And having never driven a Range Rover previously, where better to start than a two-seat purple L322?

Until an L405 is converted, this Range Rover 'Royal Review' will continue in active service with the Royals. Aside from the rather fundamental body alterations to allow for a pair of al fresco passengers, it's a standard 2002 V8 Range Rover. So there's the commanding driving position and easy controls, the biggest change being the absence of any conventional seats in the rear-view mirror. It was a useful insight to the appeal of Range Rovers in urban areas; no, it isn't nimble but the visibility is excellent and everything responds predictably and accurately. Progress isn't exactly incognito with this one though...










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FestivAli

Original Poster:

1,092 posts

239 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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That Royal Review Range Rover is ghastly... even if there is a bit of old Europa in the side profile...

Dr Interceptor

7,800 posts

197 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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article said:
2013 marks 50 years of the Queen's coronation
Might want to check on that wink

wildcat45

8,076 posts

190 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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Given the number of royals, and their liking for car, there must be a lot of motors about that were once part of their fleet.

I recall the Queen had a liking for Vauxhall estates. Several were made for her, specially built from saloon cars that were not normally available with 5 doors.

I guess a lot must be part of lease fleets, and carry factory registrations "AC" reg Land Rovers "HP" plated Jags - all pre 2001.

Doesn't the Queen hav a V8 manual defender to wander round Balmoral in?

Cotic

469 posts

153 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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Given the polarised opinion on the styling of the new XJ, JLR could do well to bring back the 'Daimler' marque for a new vehicle with more traditional styling. I'm sure it would be a hit with the Chinese market.

wildcat45

8,076 posts

190 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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Is there not some sort of legal reason why they haven't.

Daimler-Benz or something. I know they couldn't sell Dailmers in the States so branded them Jaguar Vanden Plas.

rtz62

3,371 posts

156 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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Er 2nd June 1953 was the date of Her Majesty's coronation wasn't it?
Being a product of a grammar school, that makes a full 60 years by my reckoning....
Anyway, is it me or does the 'wow' factor, together with perceived grace, seem to decline in direct proportion to the modernity of the vehicle driven...........???????

Cotic

469 posts

153 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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wildcat45 said:
Is there not some sort of legal reason why they haven't.
The internet is a wonderful thing. It appears that a US court has denied Jaguar the right to use 'Daimler' as a brand as it is a surname, and no-one with that surname is associated with the company. They also refuse to recognise Gottleib Daimler as a historic figure, which seems odd to anyone who knows the history of the motor car...! Only seems to apply to the US though, who probably won't be too interested in a new Daimler.

Only skimmed through, but that's the gist I got. Must get on with some work now.


http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/ttabvue-77035168-...

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

206 months

PH Reportery Lad

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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Dr Interceptor said:
Might want to check on that wink
Checked and edited; very silly mistake, thanks for identifying it!

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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Daimler Super V8 in correct spec with 23k miles:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C395533


clubsportguy

206 posts

133 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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What a good article but what about Prince Charles Aston Martin Volante which was a 21st Birthday present from the Queen I think!! I did heard a rumour that for Prince Andrews 21st he got a Ford RS2000 from the Queen does anyone know if this is true or not ?????

PaulMoor

3,209 posts

164 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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PH said:
The fact that Autocar's Darren Moss had suffered a breakdown in a Series II
rofl Even Land Rover and the Queen can't keep a Land Rover from braking down rofl

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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PaulMoor said:
PH said:
The fact that Autocar's Darren Moss had suffered a breakdown in a Series II
rofl Even Land Rover and the Queen can't keep a Land Rover from braking down rofl
Nothing to do with the car, Darren was a little tired and emotional and the fact that he was driving a Landy while Garlick was off frolicking in a Ferrari, it all got a bit much.

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

148 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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or how about owning one she has sat in............

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C362858


....god bless ya ma'am

TIGA84

5,210 posts

232 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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Are any of those armoured or security upgraded?

Dave4490

17 posts

132 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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Why, are you planning on taking her out? wink

Some very regal and yet bonkers cars there, that range rover is certainly interesting, surprised they still allow stuff like that given the modern security \ health and safety requirements, this is good news in my book!

Gavlar83

29 posts

144 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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Prawnboy said:
or how about owning one she has sat in............

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C362858


....god bless ya ma'am
Would love to know what the coloured buttons did! ejector seat for ma'am!

£37k tho, come on!!

New Scot

208 posts

232 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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DannyScene

6,637 posts

156 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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Gavlar83 said:
Would love to know what the coloured buttons did! ejector seat for ma'am!

£37k tho, come on!!
Pretty sure it says what they do on the buttons

pSyCoSiS

3,601 posts

206 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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Rare opporutnity to drive an array of different Royal cars.

That L322 looks funky, and has a nice colour scheme.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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WTjollyF...? How did you get to drive those..?

I trust you noticed they weren't taxed? You delinquent...