RE: Yamaha XV950: PH2 Ridden

RE: Yamaha XV950: PH2 Ridden

Tuesday 30th July 2013

Yamaha XV950: PH2 Ridden

Can Yamaha start a DIY customisation revolution?



In the UK we used to be sports bike obsessed, but there has been a shift away from such machines recently. Big trailies, naked bikes and retros are starting to grow in popularity as riders start to worry about speeding fines and increasing insurance premiums.

Modular design allows for easy customisation
Modular design allows for easy customisation
The days of flat-out weekend blasts with a group of mates are gone; riders now more interested in either touring with their significant other or just enjoying a Sunday ride. Despite this, an emerging new trend is attracting younger riders onto two wheels.

An increasing number of trendy European types are starting to view motorcycles as a fashionable lifestyle choice. The likes of Triumph with its Bonneville, Moto Guzzi and Harley are all being viewed as stylish to be seen on - but not in standard form. Running alongside this trend is the spirit of customisation.

More than meets the eye
Many are bolting on aftermarket parts to radically alter their bike's looks. A set of clip-ons and a new seat unit and you have a cafe racer, flat bars and some umber boards and it's a flat tracker. So what has this got to do with Yamaha's new XV950 bobber?

Damping is composed but the ride remains supple
Damping is composed but the ride remains supple
On the face of it, the XV is just another Japanese Harley clone. It has the standard air-cooled V-twin cruiser engine and steel cradle chassis combination, but there's more to the XV than meets the eye. Part of Yamaha's new 'Sports Heritage' range, the XV was designed to be modular.

Basically, Yamaha is encouraging riders to customise their bike by ensuring the tank, seat, lights and exhausts are simple to remove. In essence they have created a core of a motorcycle on which riders can build upon. Whilst an exciting concept in theory, Yamaha's fears of litigation mean it can't actually sell any kits.

Instead, it plans for specialists such as Roland Sands and Wrenchmonkeees to develop and market their own individual kits. The response of these companies will determine the success of the project, but that is out of Yamaha's hands. For now, before a single kit is made, Yamaha have to sell the XV950 and XV950R. So is this new cruiser worth buying?

Cafe racer one week, flat tracker the next...
Cafe racer one week, flat tracker the next...
Like a Harley - but better!
Yamaha calls the XV a 'performance bobber', which means it has been designed to go around corners. Something that other cruisers can struggle with. Launching the bike in Los Angeles meant a good test route that could put those claims to the test.

On straight roads the XV delivers the full cruiser experience. The V-twin has excellent throttle response, while the standard exhaust note is deep and booming. Over 70mph the 942cc engine can run out of puff a bit, but on a machine such as this that's fast enough. Why rush when you can sit back and relax?

The riding position, which is more feet-backwards in the bobber style, is comfortable. Apart from a slightly solid seat and the air filter getting in the way of your right leg, there isn't much to complain about. The looks and riding emotions of cruisers are always a major selling points and the XV feels good to ride and looks great in the flesh. Black paint combines with brushed aluminium highlights to give a moody appearance. So far so good, what about in the bends?

LA test route posed plenty of challenges
LA test route posed plenty of challenges
Round the bend
The XV's handling proved the biggest surprise. Being used to cruisers that wobble like a Jelly Baby's belly when you show them a series of bends, the Yamaha proved very different. The suspension is soft but seems to have enough damping to keep it composed when pushed.

As with most cruisers the chronic lack of ground clearance is the limiting factor, but take into account the fact you will scrape the XV's pegs and you can really hustle it along. It even stops, although opting for the version with ABS is advisable as the front tyre can be made to squeal quite easily...

Compared to Harley's 883, the XV's main competitor, the Yamaha handles far better and feels much gutsier. It looks better to these eyes too.

Roland Sands should have XV950 parts soon
Roland Sands should have XV950 parts soon
A bike for life?
In its standard form the XV models (the R is just a stock XV with different dampers, paint and ABS) are really entertaining bobbers that tick all the boxes when it comes to looks, performance and handling. Add in the potential for customisation and they start to look very appealing indeed. One Yamaha man told me they see owners updating their XV with various bolt-on kits rather than necessarily buying a new bike, which in the current economic climate makes perfect sense. If Roland Sands does sell an XV flat-track kit (it's being built now), you could buy it and completely transform your bobber into a flat tracker over a weekend. Get tired of this look and a new kit later that flat tracker could be a cafe racer. How cool would that be?

The prospects for the Sports Heritage range of Yamaha models are genuinely exciting. The XV950 models will be followed by an SR400 and then XJR1300 and VMAX bikes, all of which will have customisation options. Now where's my welder?


YAMAHA XV950 & XV950R
Engine:
942cc V-twin
Power: 51.3hp@5,500rpm
Torque: 58.6lb ft@3,000rpm
Top speed: 100mph (est.)
Weight: 251kg (wet)
MPG: 65 (est.)
Price: £7,199 (R £7,499)

 

 

 

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theJT

Original Poster:

313 posts

185 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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I've been looking forward to this since they announced it, it looks fantastic. There are a few things about it I'm not sure about mind. For one, that left hand cylinder head does look mighty close to where your knee would be. It looks rather like it might cook you if you're on the thing for too long. 54 horses seems like remarkably few for a very nearly 1 litre engine too... I know it doesn't _need_ more, but it does give the impression that perhaps they weren't trying quite their hardest.

Yazza54

18,508 posts

181 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Bugger me I know it's a big v twin plodder but at least 65hp would be nice!

RumpleFugly

2,377 posts

210 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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I'd imagine as its a big old air cooled lump its strangled by a restrictive exhaust. New can and map and I'm sure you'd see 70bhp.

Like the way it looks, and the utlization of custom shops is an intersting idea. Though wonder if costs of conversion kits will be low enough for the young demographic they seek.

Either way, seems Yamaha are finding their feet again after a tough few years.

SpudLink

5,784 posts

192 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Ducati have been pushing the customisation thing for a while. Especially with the Monster. However, it seems to be focused on the cosmetics.
Perhaps this is the future.

Rosscow

8,767 posts

163 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Looks cool, great idea!

I'm still thinking about 'customizing' my XV750 somehow......

sprinter1050

11,550 posts

227 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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If I ever wanted to "customise" anything I'm pretty damn sure I'd start with something that is not intended as a Harley look-alike or remotely described as a "competitor" !!

theJT

Original Poster:

313 posts

185 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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The old XV750's are an amazing base for customs it seems. Especially the early monoshock ones that end up producing things like this:

http://www.caferacer.ca/cafegallery/albums/userpic...

Would be nice to see the same sort of thing happening with these down the line.

Rosscow

8,767 posts

163 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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sprinter1050 said:
If I ever wanted to "customise" anything I'm pretty damn sure I'd start with something that is not intended as a Harley look-alike or remotely described as a "competitor" !!
Really? wink


Rosscow

8,767 posts

163 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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theJT said:
The old XV750's are an amazing base for customs it seems. Especially the early monoshock ones that end up producing things like this:

http://www.caferacer.ca/cafegallery/albums/userpic...

Would be nice to see the same sort of thing happening with these down the line.
Indeed!

Alas mine is a later '95 version, with dual rear shocks. However a little bit of imagination still conjures up some interesting machines:


sprinter1050

11,550 posts

227 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Rosscow said:
Hmm. Looks nice but a bit like a pumped up Van Van biggrin:

Same look could be achieved with a different engine though..


srob

11,608 posts

238 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Rosscow said:
Indeed!

Alas mine is a later '95 version, with dual rear shocks. However a little bit of imagination still conjures up some interesting machines:

Christ, that looks like someone's crumpled up a page of Backstreet Heroes.

Rosscow

8,767 posts

163 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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srob said:
Christ, that looks like someone's crumpled up a page of Backstreet Heroes.
hehehehe

The tank needs sorting out (gap between tank and forks kills it), and I don't like the choice of handlebars. Other than that I think it looks pretty cool!!!


theJT

Original Poster:

313 posts

185 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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I think the middleweight V's look fantastic in that retro-racer style - especially with the block as a stressed part of the frame. There's something about that design that looks incredibly purposeful - like they just took the biggest mill they could find and then bolted as little motorcycle as they could get away with to it.



Is a perfect example (although with that seat, I wouldn't want to ride it) of how the engine just dominates everything, and because it's a V it looks so well balanced.

It would be lovely to see something like this done again, but with a modern engine that has the power to back it up (which is why 50 odd - do we even know if that's at the wheel?) seems a bit of a disappointment.

srob

11,608 posts

238 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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theJT said:
I think the middleweight V's look fantastic in that retro-racer style - especially with the block as a stressed part of the frame. There's something about that design that looks incredibly purposeful - like they just took the biggest mill they could find and then bolted as little motorcycle as they could get away with to it.



Is a perfect example (although with that seat, I wouldn't want to ride it) of how the engine just dominates everything, and because it's a V it looks so well balanced.

It would be lovely to see something like this done again, but with a modern engine that has the power to back it up (which is why 50 odd - do we even know if that's at the wheel?) seems a bit of a disappointment.
Something like this, maybe...



smile

Spanna

3,732 posts

176 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Are they releasing the SR400 over here? Decent imported ones are quite a bit of money at the moment and old SR500s have gone up quite a bit in the last few years.

theJT

Original Poster:

313 posts

185 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Basically, yes smile

I love the purity of that. I like the "If you don't need it, we don't have it" attitude toward speed. I'd just like something in that vein that starts when it's cold, has tires that work in the wet, and can stop in less than a quarter mile when necessary wink Oh, and preferably doesn't require a second mortgage to buy...

srob

11,608 posts

238 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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theJT said:
Basically, yes smile

I love the purity of that. I like the "If you don't need it, we don't have it" attitude toward speed. I'd just like something in that vein that starts when it's cold, has tires that work in the wet, and can stop in less than a quarter mile when necessary winkOh, and preferably doesn't require a second mortgage to buy...
You see the Black Lightning (why don't bikes have such cool names any more?) was ticking all your boxes until that last one hehe

But I agree, that's partly why I love the vintage era of bikes. There was nothing on them that didn't need to be there, and the engine (I'm a sucker for good looking engines!) dominates the looks of the thing.

theJT

Original Poster:

313 posts

185 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Gah, you've got me on the classifieds again! http://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201... would make a perfect winter project!

If only I had a garage frown

Rosscow

8,767 posts

163 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Rosscow said:
Indeed!

Alas mine is a later '95 version, with dual rear shocks. However a little bit of imagination still conjures up some interesting machines:

Out of interest, if I wanted to do a project like this, who would I speak to when it comes to things like moving shock mounting points or reducing fork length?

srob

11,608 posts

238 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Rosscow said:
Rosscow said:
Indeed!

Alas mine is a later '95 version, with dual rear shocks. However a little bit of imagination still conjures up some interesting machines:

Out of interest, if I wanted to do a project like this, who would I speak to when it comes to things like moving shock mounting points or reducing fork length?
You'd want to go to a fairly handy fabrication company, unless you fancy having a go yourself.

Moving something like a damper mount wouldn't be that big a deal if you've prepped it yourself (ie stripped down the area), know what you want and have some half decent dimensions.

Reducing fork length; do you mean literally putting different length forks in or altering the angle of the headstock to give a sharper rake? If the former, I guess suspension people but if the latter, it'd be a far bigger job involving making jigs and stuff I suspect.