Renault Master or Traffic, which bigger?

[uk_vette]

Renault Master or Traffic, which bigger?
Also what other largish vans are there, without going "Luton size"

Needs to be a high top, so can easy walk in it, I am 6 foot tall.

vette

[Butter Face]

Master is bigger.

If you are 6ft you will be able to stand up in a Medium roof master.

HTH.

[ModernAndy]

Big Relay, Sprinter, LWB hi-roof Transit, etc.

[Rickyy]

Master is bigger. Google "Trafic Injectors" before considering buying one! They have terrible reputations for reliability.

Transits come in all shapes and sizes. LWB Hi-Roof are cavernous. Same layouts can be had with Mercedes Sprinter/VW Crafter.

Iveco also make some pretty enormous vans. BT have some "low roof" Luton style vans, using Transit chassis cabs.

[Northernchimp]

LWB high roof Citroen Relays are fking massive. Unstressed HDI engine and don't rot away.

[uk_vette]

Thanks for the heads up about the Renault's.
It doesn't look to good for Renault's.

So if I forget about the Renault's, and without spending a fortune, what is a decent van?

I guess the Renault's were cheap for a reason then, , , , , , , , , , ,

vette

[Rickyy]

Northernchimp said:

LWB high roof Citroen Relays are fking massive. Unstressed HDI engine and don't rot away.

Are the LWB models FWD? Probably works well, but just seems so wrong!

I've not long bought a Toyota Hiace, the only downside is that they didn't make a slightly taller version.

[Northernchimp]

Rickyy said:

Northernchimp said:

LWB high roof Citroen Relays are fking massive. Unstressed HDI engine and don't rot away.

Are the LWB models FWD? Probably works well, but just seems so wrong!

I've not long bought a Toyota Hiace, the only downside is that they didn't make a slightly taller version.

They are FWD and handle quite nicely. Very good in winter, probably one of the best vans on snow / ice.

[adeel_gt]

Merc sprinter, drove a batterd one with 200+K and stil drove well and have a bit of poke too!!

[Rickyy]

uk_vette said:

Thanks for the heads up about the Renault's.
It doesn't look to good for Renault's.

So if I forget about the Renault's, and without spending a fortune, what is a decent van?

I guess the Renault's were cheap for a reason then, , , , , , , , , , ,

vette

Good luck with that!

Transit/Sprinter = Rust. Also newest shape Transits aren't that reliable, plagued with EGR, fuel pump and injector failures.

VW=Pay over the odds for the badge. That said the Crafter isn't as bad as the Transporter and Caddys for this.

Relay/Jumper/Ducato = I've been told they suffer with a few issues, can't quite remember what, but I'm sure it was pricey!

As I said, I opted for a Hiace, but it won't be high enough for what you want.

Personally I'd find the best 00-06 Transit I could find and sort out the rot or go for a Crafter. AFAIK, the Crafter and Sprinter are pretty much the same van, but the VW doesn't seem to rot as much as the Merc.

[santona1937]

Nothing wrong with renault vans, as long as you understand they are designed to market at the cheaper end of the spectrum.

[uk_vette]

santona1937 said:

Nothing wrong with renault vans, as long as you understand they are designed to market at the cheaper end of the spectrum.

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OK, so listening to some of the other problems from other makes, perhaps Renault's are not that bad, when you look at what they cost.

Another one I didn't think about was the Citroen.

Are they the same size?

vette

[Rickyy]

santona1937 said:

Nothing wrong with renault vans, as long as you understand they are designed to market at the cheaper end of the spectrum.

Except the well documented injector failures, which become seized in the cylinder head and cost around £1200 for a specialist to replace them, and the known problems with the 6 speed boxes failing!

[ModernAndy]

Do you have a particular budget, OP?

[Layacable]

Rickyy said:

santona1937 said:

Nothing wrong with renault vans, as long as you understand they are designed to market at the cheaper end of the spectrum.

Except the well documented injector failures, which become seized in the cylinder head and cost around £1200 for a specialist to replace them, and the known problems with the 6 speed boxes failing!

We have had the same issues with our vivaros, in the end they leave the injectors in the heads soaking in coca cola to get them out!,,

And the gearboxes are made from chocolate.

[Glassman]

I have had a Nissan-badged Renault Trafic since new and have not had any issues.

There's a hi-top version in the Trafic range before you get to Master (or Interstar in the Nissan range; Movano in Vauxhall).

[Fast Bug]

Citroen Rely/Fiat Ducato/Peugeot Boxer all have gearbox issues (amongst other problems!)