RE: My Dream Drive: The Col de Vence
Thursday 21st November 2013
Name: Matt Bird
Where: Col de Vence, Cote d'Azur
Car used: Peugeot RCZ R
Amazing road tackled in a very good carThe route:
"This drive is a snippet from the launch route of the Peugeot RCZ R. The full 130km is epic if you have the time as it picks up the Route Napoleon and takes you back towards Vence. The south of France is used for plenty of car launches, and it's not difficult to see why from this experience.
Sunshine + hairpins = blissWhy it's a Dream Drive:
"Where to start? Being British, the weather plays a huge part. Tackling a great road in beautiful sunshine rather than drizzle makes a huge (positive) difference, plus it makes the views all the more breathtaking.
Should be familiar to 007 fans...Highlights and lowlights:
"Two sections burn brightest in my mind. The first is as you're climbing out of Vence with loads of tight second-gear bends working through the hills. Sometimes third is needed for a bit, but often it's just running right up to the limiter, braking as late as possible and threading your way through. The rock faces up around half way through are spectacular too. There the same roads used in the opening chase for Goldeneye; it typifies the south of France and is an excellent stretch of Tarmac.
Hairpins galore!Sights, stops-offs and diversions
"There wasn't much opportunity to explore on the launch, but there are so many stunning roads in the region you really are spoilt for choice. The Col de Vence is wonderful largely because it's often deserted; only small towns and villages are on the route, and traffic is fairly sparse. However, keep a look out for the ranch (yes, really) and some stunning picnic spots if you fancy a break.
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My Dream Drive: The Col de Vence
The south of France is a predictable one, but for very good reason
Where: Col de Vence, Cote d'Azur
Car used: Peugeot RCZ R
Amazing road tackled in a very good car
"This drive is a snippet from the launch route of the Peugeot RCZ R. The full 130km is epic if you have the time as it picks up the Route Napoleon and takes you back towards Vence. The south of France is used for plenty of car launches, and it's not difficult to see why from this experience.
"Starting from our hotel in Vence, we went out of town on the M2 Route de Coursegoules, which is a pretty spectacular road in itself. Just before Coursegoules it becomes the D2, where it works its way to Greolieres and Thorenc for kilometre after snaking kilometre.
"Carrying on past Caille, the D79, the N85 (yes, that is Napoleon's fabled route) and the D12 take you back towards Vence."
Sunshine + hairpins = bliss
"Where to start? Being British, the weather plays a huge part. Tackling a great road in beautiful sunshine rather than drizzle makes a huge (positive) difference, plus it makes the views all the more breathtaking.
"What stood out for me personally during my first time there was the relentless intensity of the roads. There is just no time to rest but, if you're up for the challenge, it's hugely rewarding. Up in the mountains, the hairpins switch back on each other incessantly but, because they're well sighted, you can pick your line and live out tarmac rally fantasies to your heart's content.
"Out at Greolieres there are some quicker sections but, just as you think the speed is picking up, there'll be another tight hairpin to keep you on your toes. It's all really well surfaced, to a British bum at least, allowing you to focus on inputs rather than scouring the road for potholes.
"There's huge variety on the Col de Vence too. Occasionally the scenery is as you would expect from the region, with overhanging cliffs and plunging valleys. Then a dense forest puts you in mind of central Europe, if you have time to look away from the road..."
Should be familiar to 007 fans...
"Two sections burn brightest in my mind. The first is as you're climbing out of Vence with loads of tight second-gear bends working through the hills. Sometimes third is needed for a bit, but often it's just running right up to the limiter, braking as late as possible and threading your way through. The rock faces up around half way through are spectacular too. There the same roads used in the opening chase for Goldeneye; it typifies the south of France and is an excellent stretch of Tarmac.
"But there's plenty to be wary of too. As Mr Bond found, it's a popular cycling route so be prepared to make space for those attacking the Col on two wheels. Locals using four wheels and an engine can also be a hazard, practicing their lines regardless of other vehicles. And don't get too keen cutting bends; some of the drops off the road can be severe and looked like wheel ruiners. We stumbled across roadworks with very little warning too. Be careful!"
Hairpins galore!
"There wasn't much opportunity to explore on the launch, but there are so many stunning roads in the region you really are spoilt for choice. The Col de Vence is wonderful largely because it's often deserted; only small towns and villages are on the route, and traffic is fairly sparse. However, keep a look out for the ranch (yes, really) and some stunning picnic spots if you fancy a break.
"Moreover, look at where Vence is! Cannes and Nice are just at the coast and there must be a whole host of beautiful little villages on the way. Unfortunately my time there was very much limited to one car and one route, but it was more than enough to make returning a priority. Soon."
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Discussion
Hi Matt,
Im glad that someone from pistonheads has finally mentioned these roads! I'm lucky enough to have a family member with a very nice private villa just outside Vence on the D2210 on the way to Tourrette-sur-loup and I have been driving these roads and harping on about them for about 10years to my friends saying how much fun they were and apart from the militant locals who are determined to try and take the racing line on almost every corner it is probably the best place for driving roads I've ever visited.
One of the best things about this is that once you have done these roads your only 30 mins down the A8 to Monaco or more importantly La Turbie. I suggest taking the A8 up to la Turbie then take the road down the mountain to Monaco. Fingers crossed its clear and you have good brakes, when i went there in my Alfa Guilietta 1.4 MultiAir with brembo upgrades and the 18" alfa 5 hole wheels my brakes were smoking by the bottom!
Once in Monaco I would eat at star n bars then have coffee at the Cafe de Paris before heading back down the coast road to nice.
Id be interested to know which hotel you stayed in as i would have thought that pistonheads would have put you up in the Chateau Saint-Martin but judging by your map you were short changed! lol
Im glad that someone from pistonheads has finally mentioned these roads! I'm lucky enough to have a family member with a very nice private villa just outside Vence on the D2210 on the way to Tourrette-sur-loup and I have been driving these roads and harping on about them for about 10years to my friends saying how much fun they were and apart from the militant locals who are determined to try and take the racing line on almost every corner it is probably the best place for driving roads I've ever visited.
One of the best things about this is that once you have done these roads your only 30 mins down the A8 to Monaco or more importantly La Turbie. I suggest taking the A8 up to la Turbie then take the road down the mountain to Monaco. Fingers crossed its clear and you have good brakes, when i went there in my Alfa Guilietta 1.4 MultiAir with brembo upgrades and the 18" alfa 5 hole wheels my brakes were smoking by the bottom!
Once in Monaco I would eat at star n bars then have coffee at the Cafe de Paris before heading back down the coast road to nice.
Id be interested to know which hotel you stayed in as i would have thought that pistonheads would have put you up in the Chateau Saint-Martin but judging by your map you were short changed! lol
Lived in Vence for a bit with my C63.... got through a lot of tyres! Amazing roads, but watch the French, they don't seem to understand that they take a blind corner on their side of the road, not on your side. So many near misses with French all over the road. Also, the cyclist have got bad there, so many of them makes it a bit of a nightmare. The whole area is filled with some of the best driving roads, up to Gordon is spectacular from Bar-sur-loup. They actually hold a rally stage up there. The road from the coast up to Sospell is also amazing, possibly better than the Col de Vence!! You'll normally find some nutter in an old Renault 5 Turbo thrashing up and down these roads!! The police have cottoned onto the speeding that occurs around these roads and they patrol quite a bit now so worth doing a gentle run first, get used to the road and check for plod, the give it the beans!!! Locals will report speeding motorists, they're getting as bad as the Brits! For emptier roads, head to the Var, over towards Fayence and head up into the hills and there's stunning roads there. Enjoy!!
Agdavie said:
Once in Monaco I would eat at star n bars then have coffee at the Cafe de Paris before heading back down the coast road to nice.
Yes, absolutely, good recommendation. Cafe de Paris is the place to see and be seen, there was a classic car rally driving through when we were there last, saw everything from a D-Type with a wonderful old boy driving who gave it the beans past the cafe, through to a morgan 3 wheeler... I pity the guy in that if he's driven from the UK!! We often get a sandwich and head down to the marina as well, see the stars on their boats, sorry, ships!! Last time Angelina and Brad were out and about on something the size of an ocean liner... Agdavie said:
Id be interested to know which hotel you stayed in as i would have thought that pistonheads would have put you up in the Chateau Saint-Martin but judging by your map you were short changed! lol
LMAO!!! 
I love that hotel. Breakfast on a summers morning there is spectacular!! cydaps said:
LMAO!!! I love that hotel. Breakfast on a summers morning there is spectacular!!
Ive been lucky enough to stay there a few times when the villa was either full or under repair/construction. I love that hotel. Breakfast on a summers morning there is spectacular!! Breakfast on the Terrace is perfect! the thing i like about it the most is the way that they treat everyone the same as when I was there a famous type turned up with bouncers hairstylists etc etc and when she came to dinner she asked the hotel to remove the other guests so she could eat in peace. (like anyone there gave a sht about her) and she was told that she either sat in the resturant with the rest of us or leave. Her other alternative was that she could book the whole place if she wanted it empty for her.
The roads down in the Var are great.
I must ask though if you lived there why did you come back? Im saving to move there and once i have the cash im outta here! (the 11's id leave would stretch from london to the chunnel....)
Outstanding roads, driven many times but only ever in a hire car - next year booked for the Esprit...
Was down there again this summer and up and down those very hairpins several times. Yes, SWMBO shuts her eyes, especially when we meet a big truck coming the other way but the driving and scenery - fantastic.
Was down there again this summer and up and down those very hairpins several times. Yes, SWMBO shuts her eyes, especially when we meet a big truck coming the other way but the driving and scenery - fantastic.
Agdavie said:
Hi Matt,
Im glad that someone from pistonheads has finally mentioned these roads! I'm lucky enough to have a family member with a very nice private villa just outside Vence on the D2210 on the way to Tourrette-sur-loup and I have been driving these roads and harping on about them for about 10years to my friends saying how much fun they were and apart from the militant locals who are determined to try and take the racing line on almost every corner it is probably the best place for driving roads I've ever visited.
One of the best things about this is that once you have done these roads your only 30 mins down the A8 to Monaco or more importantly La Turbie. I suggest taking the A8 up to la Turbie then take the road down the mountain to Monaco. Fingers crossed its clear and you have good brakes, when i went there in my Alfa Guilietta 1.4 MultiAir with brembo upgrades and the 18" alfa 5 hole wheels my brakes were smoking by the bottom!
Once in Monaco I would eat at star n bars then have coffee at the Cafe de Paris before heading back down the coast road to nice.
Id be interested to know which hotel you stayed in as i would have thought that pistonheads would have put you up in the Chateau Saint-Martin but judging by your map you were short changed! lol
Hello!Im glad that someone from pistonheads has finally mentioned these roads! I'm lucky enough to have a family member with a very nice private villa just outside Vence on the D2210 on the way to Tourrette-sur-loup and I have been driving these roads and harping on about them for about 10years to my friends saying how much fun they were and apart from the militant locals who are determined to try and take the racing line on almost every corner it is probably the best place for driving roads I've ever visited.
One of the best things about this is that once you have done these roads your only 30 mins down the A8 to Monaco or more importantly La Turbie. I suggest taking the A8 up to la Turbie then take the road down the mountain to Monaco. Fingers crossed its clear and you have good brakes, when i went there in my Alfa Guilietta 1.4 MultiAir with brembo upgrades and the 18" alfa 5 hole wheels my brakes were smoking by the bottom!
Once in Monaco I would eat at star n bars then have coffee at the Cafe de Paris before heading back down the coast road to nice.
Id be interested to know which hotel you stayed in as i would have thought that pistonheads would have put you up in the Chateau Saint-Martin but judging by your map you were short changed! lol
Thanks for the pointers, I'll definitely have to head back now for a longer trip. Hotel was courtesy of Peugeot and it was pretty decent IMO:
http://www.cantemerle-hotel-vence.com/?lang=en
We weren't there for long though and the driving was far, far more important!
Cheers,
Matt
Col de Vence...
I go on holiday twice a year to a villa between Tourettes sur Loup & Pont du Loup. Done Col de Vence many many times with the 911, the Cayenne, on my bicycle and with a few totally unsuitable hire cars :-D
It is a fantastic road, and it goes even better: if you carry on away from the Med, over to the valley behind Greollieres Neiges (the most south French ski resort with view of Nice airport and the Med from the top!), the roads become absolutely incredible.
Certainly a great region to explore with a sports car or bike.
Raph.
I go on holiday twice a year to a villa between Tourettes sur Loup & Pont du Loup. Done Col de Vence many many times with the 911, the Cayenne, on my bicycle and with a few totally unsuitable hire cars :-D
It is a fantastic road, and it goes even better: if you carry on away from the Med, over to the valley behind Greollieres Neiges (the most south French ski resort with view of Nice airport and the Med from the top!), the roads become absolutely incredible.
Certainly a great region to explore with a sports car or bike.
Raph.
Awesome !
I have the big chance to live at the begining of the col de vence
A lot of road bike on this road...
A lot of downhills with my mountain bike...
And since two years i m the happy owner of a caterham cup... With this the fun is better uphill !
A lot of pleasure on my local track with my Caterham !!!
Thank s a lot to share this place on a big place as pistonheads
Every fan of Light Is Right is welcome at house for a beer and and a trip on the fantastic roads of the French Riviera!
I have the big chance to live at the begining of the col de vence
A lot of road bike on this road...
A lot of downhills with my mountain bike...
And since two years i m the happy owner of a caterham cup... With this the fun is better uphill !
A lot of pleasure on my local track with my Caterham !!!
Thank s a lot to share this place on a big place as pistonheads
Every fan of Light Is Right is welcome at house for a beer and and a trip on the fantastic roads of the French Riviera!
Great minds and all that, I wrote a 'great driving roads' piece for this months (maybe last months now) Total 911 about this very road! Although I concluded I'd turn right around and do it going the other way, I like it that much. All of the roads which run off it are epic too, particularly the D5 on the west side.
Matt Bird said:
Hello!
Thanks for the pointers, I'll definitely have to head back now for a longer trip. Hotel was courtesy of Peugeot and it was pretty decent IMO:
http://www.cantemerle-hotel-vence.com/?lang=en
We weren't there for long though and the driving was far, far more important!
Cheers,
Matt
Hi Matt, Thanks for the pointers, I'll definitely have to head back now for a longer trip. Hotel was courtesy of Peugeot and it was pretty decent IMO:
http://www.cantemerle-hotel-vence.com/?lang=en
We weren't there for long though and the driving was far, far more important!
Cheers,
Matt
The hotel doesnt look to bad but if you get the chance next time go here
http://www.chateau-st-martin.com/eng/time-of-day/
the rest of you guys in glad im not the only who belts these roads in my english car! ive been pulled over twice but the 1st time was so the police office could have a good look round the Guilietta i was driving. (it had only just been launched and i had the one of the 1st in the UK due to working for Alfa at the time)
the 2nd time was a let off! lol! He was a nice chap who pointed out that the road signs in france are in KPH not MPH and that if he saw my car doing 110MPH again he would not only take my car off me but throw me in the nick for a night..... good job it was another company car (the newest Audi S3 thats only been in the UK for about 2 months) and that one has gone now as well poo......
p.s. if you get the chance to have a go in the New S3 i would recommend it as yes the interior is dull but and the drive a bit german but once you get it going and find a twisty road it comes alive!
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