RE: Range Rover 5.0 Autobiography: PH Fleet

RE: Range Rover 5.0 Autobiography: PH Fleet

Tuesday 3rd December 2013

Range Rover 5.0 Autobiography: PH Fleet

Harris was ready to buy a sensible Toyota Land Cruiser; instead ends up with supercharged Range Rover




The search continued for several days after the last blog. At various points it refined itself before meandering off into another mixed casserole of ill-defined thinking. The outcome was that despite everything from a Defender to a Unimog - and most things 4WD in between - enjoying its brief moment in the spotlight, I was spending more time spying Land Cruiser Amazons than anything else.

I was on the verge, on the very cusp of buying one. Two weeks later, there's a 60-plate 5.0 Supercharged Range Rover sitting outside my door. Even by my standards, this is difficult to explain.

Heated wheel, big V8 - winter motoring sorted
Heated wheel, big V8 - winter motoring sorted
At some point, possibly when sobre, I decided that a 4.2 supercharged Rangie might be fun. An old nail would do the job. Then I saw a perfect specification newer 5.0-litre version in dark green with a caramel interior and clear glass and pinged the image onto Twitter in appreciation of such a dignified-looking machine. In hindsight, this was a mistake.

It was also a Friday, and on the Monday that car had disappeared from the web, but another in similarly splendid green with clear glass was lurking up north. Then followed one of those strange situations that despite being a committed non-sexist I still assume only afflict the male of the species. I dialled the number and convinced myself that if a decent human answered, paid some interest and did a deal, I'd buy a 60-plate Range Rover. If they didn't, I'd forget anything this stupid had ever happened.

Someone from Stratstone Land Rover in Stockton-on-Tees did answer the phone. This would prove costly.

A nice chap called Shaun then described the car and flatly refused to take a bid. He wanted a little under £38,000 and I felt this wasn't too unreasonable for something so lovely and asked to speak to the drug dealer, I mean business manager, to throw some extra finance pain at what was doubtless going to be one of the worst depreciating vehicles I would ever purchase. In for a penny.

Classy colour and spec combo sealed it
Classy colour and spec combo sealed it
But here's the thing - I wanted a Range Rover. I flitted and debated and attempted to convince myself otherwise, but what I wanted was a big comfy truck, built up the road, propelled by massive V8. The reality is I won't be doing that much towing - 10 long trips next year at the most - and the role of this thing is to make me feel happy when I'm not spanking someone else's supercar around a track. For some reason, I'm just happy perched up high, driving not very quickly in a Range Rover.

Why not an old Classic? I think they're a little fragile for the way I use these types of vehicle, and possibly a bit weak for towing. I had a great time in my recently departed old shed, but time to try something new.

But obviously the bit of man maths I really have to try and explain (acknowledging that I don't think I've fully justified it to myself yet) is why I've thrown a load of rental at a car which will shed value like home hi-fi. Er, I'll give it a go.

4.2-litre supercharged Rangies are readily available in the trade for under £10K. I have heard of, and read about numerous mechanical and electrical issues and can assume that a 120K-mile version would probably cost a few quid to keep running. I know, you might just get lucky, but that wasn't really a risk I wanted to take. Paying £9K, but earning yourself a £5K bill in the first six months isn't my idea of fun.

Bootliner coming to protect against dogs/bikes
Bootliner coming to protect against dogs/bikes
So if it was to be a Rangie, I wanted an approved used example. I think the L322 shape, clear glass and in the green and caramel is far more dignified than the new Range Rover, and have a funny feeling that if the new car is really over £100,000, prices of these late-model supercharged Autobiographies might not plummet as fast as expected.

The initial offering from the Land Rover finance desk was highly amusing: a £13,000 deposit and some hilarious monthly rental based around an APR of 10.9 per cent for three years before a large balloon was due. I asked if we weren't in fact living in the year 1991.

The rate was immediately reduced to 8.9 per cent - which was a little too miraculous for comfort, and after a little shopping around we rounded on 7.9 per cent. The figures still make for fairly tragic reading: £38,336 OTR, £13,000 down and £339.10 per month, £18,252 at the end of the rental.

Firstly, I fully intend to own the thing outright before the term is up - ideally I'd like to have it bought within a year - so the finance situation isn't quite as bad as it first appears. The cost of the vehicle I've already covered leaving, er, the warranty.

Missing tow hook will need replacing
Missing tow hook will need replacing
The last L322 I owned was exactly three years old, and just out of warranty. It provided a full six months of blissful trouble-free motoring before destroying a gearbox and then a transfer case. This time around, I wanted a warranty. As an approved Land Rover, it has a year's mechanical warranty, excluding consumables. In other words, if the transmission goes pop, it's not my problem.

The car was bought blind, Stratstones were efficient and helpful - they removed the side-steps which I thought spoiled the lines, and the car was delivered south the following week.

Needless to say, I love it.

These late L322s with the supercharged petrol motor really were Bentleys on stilts. The ride is superb, the performance is on another level to the 4.4 V8, 2003-plate car we had years ago, and it feels way stronger than the 4.2 Supercharged we had in 2007. The specification is perfect, the cabin doesn't have a single squeak and pretty much everything is covered in leather or wood. This is my approximation of what a Range Rover should be - effortless, burbling, comfortable and overwhelmingly charming.

An unscheduled dash to Oxford yesterday saw it average 14mpg at a fast cruise, which is mostly tragic, but then I really don't intend on doing more than 5,000 miles a year in it, so a TDV8 just isn't worth it. And as I've said, for me a Range Rover should be petrol powered.

Come on then winter, let's have it...
Come on then winter, let's have it...
This is, as you are probably now aware, a complete folly of a purchase. It is unjustifiable, it will cost me money and I've decided I just don't care. I'd rather have the car I want and work harder to pay for it.

The next job is to find some tyres to use in the mud and snow and a spray can to sort that dreadful chrome front grille and lower chin strap. Wonder if there's a potential business in de-chavving Range Rovers and Discoveries? We could call it Dignity. The previous owner took the tow hook with them, so I need one of those, and for lobbing the mountain bike in the back I'll get some boot liners/covers.

Here's looking forward to winter with my heated steering wheel.


FACT SHEET
Car:
2010 Range Rover 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography
Run by: Chris Harris
Bought: December 2013
Mileage: 20,000
Purchase price: £38,000 (before man maths, haggling and finance...)
Last month at a glance: 14mpg on the first proper run but nice warm hands courtesy of the heated steering wheel

 

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Discussion

jakesmith

Original Poster:

9,461 posts

172 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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14MPG!!!

FWDRacer

3,564 posts

225 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Mad as a badger. Should have been part of the recent Gloucestershire cull.

George29

14,707 posts

165 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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What a perfect spec for a Range Rover cloud9

Schnellmann

1,893 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Coming next week, Chris convinces himself that black is in fact white....

Man maths at its greatest/worst depending how you view it (dealer/finance co. vs wife most likely)!

BigTom85

1,927 posts

172 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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You utter mentalist Chris.

I like your style! drink

Dazed & Confused

202 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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No to:

Chris Harris said:
Paying £9K, but earning yourself a £5K bill
But yes to:

Chris Harris said:
£38,336 OTR, £13,000 down and £339.10 per month, £18,252 at the end of the rental.
Man maths at its absolute finest.

Personally, in your position I'd have probably gone with this: http://used.ph/15GZskE

9/10ths of what you got with your new Rangie, for less than the cost of the older one (after repairs). Assuming the Land Cruiser won't break down. Which it won't. Because it's a Land Cruiser.

Edited by Dazed & Confused on Tuesday 3rd December 12:23

godzilla84

148 posts

181 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Totally insane but very nice looking. One day the L322 will be in my price range (i.e. VERY CHEAP) and i will own one. For now i shall have to make do with my rotten Disco.

SFO

5,169 posts

184 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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fantastic choice and lovely lovely colour combination.

This is so true:

"It is unjustifiable, it will cost me money and I've decided I just don't care. I'd rather have the car I want and work harder to pay for it."

J4CKO

41,628 posts

201 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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14 MPG, I would have gone for something a little more economical, like a Vulcan bomber, Space Shuttle or a small to medium sized Black Hole.

Enjoy.

Spuffington

1,206 posts

169 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Insane but love it! Just need to get around to deploying the same kind of man maths to bag myself one of those.

Lovely! smile

Ex Boy Racer

1,151 posts

193 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Chris Harris, I hate you.
Because, by doing this sort of thing and talking about it in print, you make the terrible decisions I make with regard to cars acceptable.
14 mpg - no prob because I don't do many miles.
Massive depreciation. Ahhh, it might not because of the new model.
Crappy finance rates; they won't matter if I just buy it outright.
I think we need some money-saving expert to follow up every one of Chris's columns with sound, sensible advice just to maintain some balance.

seawise

2,147 posts

207 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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very nice exterior colour - pity about the interior colours though and not sure i like those 20in wheels (although i appreciate they are the standard fot items). great to see no privacy class though.

i know everyone will declare you mad, but it's not as mad as buying a brand new '13 RR TDV8 autobiography (on smallest available wheels), like i did ! and let me know if you can find a business case for 'dignity', i would be first in the queue to de-bling my RR.

SprintSpeciale

432 posts

146 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Quote:

"This is, as you are probably now aware, a complete folly of a purchase. It is unjustifiable, it will cost me money and I've decided I just don't care. I'd rather have the car I want and work harder to pay for it."

If you want it, can afford it, and it makes you happy, then it is not a complete folly of a purchase (despite the torrent of posts saying the opposite that I am sure is on the way..).

I am pleased for you, and I hope you get lots of enjoyment from your new car.

athol

325 posts

211 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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To a lesser degree, I did the same thing recently.

I convinced myself that a T6 Volvo XC90 was a far better buy at 18mpg average than the equivalent D5 version. The petrol drives better, is quieter and totally unsellable which is what I wanted! I like it and don't want the wife to convince me that it is costing too much! The equivalent D5 was £3k more! I know it would be returned at sale time but still, what's the point really?

I fully intend to run it into the ground and then change to a Cayenne Turbo for precisely the same reasons!

I salute you Mr Harris, your man maths is not unique and certainly justifiable!


Agent Orange

2,194 posts

247 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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If nothing else it's going to provide us with some enjoyable reading on PH over the next year or so of ownership. wink

Bets on the first blog? "How much for a light bulb?!?!?!" biggrin


Silverbullet767

10,712 posts

207 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Alot of money for a V8 powered heated steering wheel! Did you consider gloves?

MJK 24

5,648 posts

237 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Good strong colour scheme - it looks well.

Enjoy smile

AyBee

10,536 posts

203 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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SFO said:
fantastic choice and lovely lovely colour combination.

This is so true:

"It is unjustifiable, it will cost me money and I've decided I just don't care. I'd rather have the car I want and work harder to pay for it."
yes Gorgeous machine Chris thumbup What's the point in waiting until you can pay for it when you can have it now in the knowledge that you'll be able to pay for it with future earnings (even if it does cost a bit more)? If we all waited, we'd be driving around in nice cars when we're too old to enjoy them!

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Somewhat strangely i actually prefer the non supercharged AJ133 engine in the full fat Range Rover. The S/C just feels like too much engine, and the gearbox cal, is, imo, too eager to downchange, leading to a sudden lurch as the bungalow sized vehicle warps off down the road. Fun for 5mins, a bit wearing after that. The n/a has plenty of power and torque and sits better with the cars ethos imo.

(Even for only 5k miles i'd have brought the derv V8! just for resale value ;-)

Paracetamol

4,226 posts

245 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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thats "superman maths". Good call on the window tinting. I live in the middle east and have a white BMW 5 series as a daily drive. The guys at the tinting place looked at me in a very unbeliveing way when I asked them to remove 1k usd of tinting from the car. I think my car is the only white 5 series in the Middle East with no tinting and looks so much better for it!