Diesel TVR

[BarnFind]

Just back from Germany where i was pounding up and down autobahns in an Audi A5 TDi Quattro,seriously impressive car.3 litre diesel,245 bhp,369LB torque,0-60, 5.7sec and 155mph and 50mpg.Little wonder one gets the odd shock from an oil burner these days whilst out in the TVR.got me thinking though,is there a place in the future line up for a diesel TVR ?
Thoughts......

[nawarne]

Comment from a mate at Le Mans a few years ago when the Audis(R15?) were whispering past: "I thought this was for petrol-heads"?

As good as modern oil-burners are, I do miss the guttural roar of the Panoz (e.g.) at L.M
Nick

[SteveSPG]

nawarne said:

As good as modern oil-burners are, I do miss the guttural roar of the Panoz (e.g.) at L.M
Nick

they're all there at the classic

[N7GTX]

I'm not sure there is a future at all for diesel engines. With Paris currently restricted to alternate days in an effort to reduce harmful emissions and speed restrictions on the M1 from South Yorkshire to Notts for the same reason, the future looks bleak. It seems the green people are saying diesel emissions are the main reason for the restrictions.
How long before London and other cities follow suit especially when the weather gets warmer in the summer?

[Geoff Ashcroft]

N7GTX said:

I'm not sure there is a future at all for diesel engines.

Really? Do you have an alternative high volume fuel solution for trucks, farm equipment and construction kit?
Oil burners have their place, but so too do good petrol engines. And sports cars need to make the right noise, helped by spark plugs

[jamieduff1981]

Diesel engines are not sporty and every single one of them is completely unrewarding to drive. They have no place in sports cars built for enjoyment.

Miserable, hateful, hateful things.

[dvs_dave]

An electric TVR is more likely I'd say. In fact there was a rather curious electric Tuscan that was up for sale in Germany a little while back that looked to possibly some sort of prototype.

[wongthecorrupter]

Whats wrong with petrol

[Lost soul]

jamieduff1981 said:

Diesel engines are not sporty and every single one of them is completely unrewarding to drive. They have no place in sports cars built for enjoyment.

Miserable, hateful, hateful things.

Not so , I have an A5 3lt TDI and its a great engine the mid range torque is mighty , if you do not like diesels that's fine but please do not diss all of them out of hand

[BarnFind]

dvs_dave said:

An electric TVR is more likely I'd say. In fact there was a rather curious electric Tuscan that was up for sale in Germany a little while back that looked to possibly some sort of prototype.

Any links ?

[Basti]

BarnFind said:

Any links ?

http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/tvr-tuscan-el...

[N7GTX]

Geoff Ashcroft said:

N7GTX said:

I'm not sure there is a future at all for diesel engines.

Really? Do you have an alternative high volume fuel solution for trucks, farm equipment and construction kit?
Oil burners have their place, but so too do good petrol engines. And sports cars need to make the right noise, helped by spark plugs

Its not for me to come up with an alternative fuel although there are some out there. Is there to be a separate case for diesels in the machinery you talk of to the exclusion of all others? If buses can round around on electricity then so can those you list.
What's wrong with LPG? What's wrong with petrol? And electricity? Propane in fork lift trucks?

The manufacturers are really struggling to meet their current emissions limits and thats why the next range of limits have been deferred by up to 6 years. So the limits we should be getting in next year's cars just wont happen and cities like Paris and Tokyo plus parts of the motorway network will be submerged in harmful diesel gases and soot. Just because a diesel has an exhaust gas recirculation valve (EGR) and a diesel particulate filter (DPF) do not be fooled. When the DPF is going through its cleaning process more harmful waste is created and, ironically, likely to be worse on a motorway when the self cleaning regeneration occurs.

But I do agree that petrol has a long shelf life and makes some amazing noise.
This is not just my view though: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/diesel-...

Edited by N7GTX on Tuesday 18th March 13:03

Edited by N7GTX on Tuesday 18th March 13:07

[cptsideways]

I have a complete spare 530d M57 lump sat in my garage looking quite lonely

[N7GTX]

You need a project then
That would upset the AJP brigade though.....

[TVRUnoficialBlog]

Smolensky, speaking of the failing of his attempt to resurrect the brand, spoke about a "prototype of a Cerbera with a BMW Diesel engine".

[QuiteQuietCerb]

is a diesel griff somewhere, search youtube

[Vee8ight]

If you compare turbocharged versions of both petrol and diesel, you will find little difference in performance and economy, between them with modern engines. Yes the modern TDI is a rapid thing, but so is a modern turbocharged petrol, and our ageing TVRs are not the spring chickens they once were.
I personally think putting a diesel in a Porsche is just wrong, and likewise with any sports/supercar.

Each to their own, but diesel clatter belongs in Lorries, vans and tractors

[gruffalo]

TVRUnoficialBlog said:

Smolensky, speaking of the failing of his attempt to resurrect the brand, spoke about a "prototype of a Cerbera with a BMW Diesel engine".

I have seen that car, it was an abomination, very breathed on BMW 535 engine.

Chassis could not take the torque was what I was told.

[V8 Fettler]

If a driver is not sufficiently competent to select the correct gear for maximum acceleration then a modern common rail diesel is perhaps the best compromise.

TVR diesel? Where is the anticipation in even starting the thing? Sense of occasion etc.

[jmorgan]

Wonder what would have happened if the Iceberg project had taken off.