RE: Maserati GranTurismo: PH Carpool

RE: Maserati GranTurismo: PH Carpool

Monday 5th May 2014

Maserati GranTurismo: PH Carpool

You know you've got it bad when a Maserati GranTurismo is your sensible daily driver



Name: Mike Brownhill
Car: 2009 Maserati GranTurismo 4.2
Owned since: 2009
Previously owned: Various MGs and Austin Healeys over the years, an E-Type Jaguar, Scimitar GTE and a Monaro are some of the more interesting ones; a Ferrari 348 (aprevious Carpool), MG Midget, MINI Cooper S, a Range Rover Sport and now a BMW M135i are still in the garage.

Weekend toy, daily driver, very happy PHer
Weekend toy, daily driver, very happy PHer
Why I bought it:
"I had moved out to Dubai a few years ago and had been using a then-new Monaro as my daily drive (good car by the way, a bit lazy but great fun) but I fancied something a bit more exotic when it came time to change.

"I had already let my heart rule my head and had picked up an old Ferrari 348 which I was (and still am) using as a weekend toy, but I needed something a bit less demanding and a bit more comfortable than that as a daily drive - a new Ferrari would have been nice of course but that was out reach financially and I wasn't sure such a car would be OK to use every day in traffic anyway, not having an autobox.

"I always thought that the Maser looked the business though and it did have a Ferrari engine - then when I saw a black one with the birdcage wheels in the showroom, my heart took over (again) down went the deposit, and I have owned and loved it ever since... 2-0 to the Italians I'm afraid."

Maserati mindset, as supplied by Mike
Maserati mindset, as supplied by Mike
Things I love:
"Well, it's turned out to be more than 'a poor man's Ferrari' I think - this car's refinement has really impressed me in its own right over the last few years and it has its own unique position in the marketplace.

"I genuinely love how it looks and after nearly five years of ownership I still find myself glancing back to look at it, so it still does it for me. Mine is without the side skirt extensions, so the sills tuck in and under at the front and rear arches - just how Pininfarina originally designed it, and that front end snout and the curves over the front wheel arches, how it squats at the rear - just lovely to my eyes.

"The engine has been totally faultless and sounds fantastic; the 4.2 unit has to be revved up to get the performance out of it but that suits my driving style anyway and adds to the experience for me. I had to go for the ZF six-speed auto gearbox (city traffic on a daily basis dictated that I'm afraid) but the engine is matched perfectly to this 'box and I can't speak highly enough about the drivetrain - it has suited my needs very well and even the paddle shifters work surprisingly quickly when you feel the need to use them. The ZF 'box will hold a gear out to 7,200 rpm before upshifting if you are pushing it with plenty of engine braking on the downshifts.

Wheel refurb chance to go 'Grigio Mecuri'
Wheel refurb chance to go 'Grigio Mecuri'
"The interior is a nice place to be too, the fit, finish and quality of the leather is excellent but in that 'cool' Italian way rather than a 'stately home' way. Mine is red (Oh dear I can hear you sigh) but it's actually rather fetching; probably wouldn't do it for me in the UK, but out here... why not, and the ladies love it too, like they would a designer Italian handbag (I know, not very PH...) The Bose Hi-Fi with the factory upgrade has been tuned to the cars acoustics according to the brochure, and I can believe it, Northern Soul never sounded so good in a car...

"The four seats have also proved to be an unexpected bonus, it's not that easy to get into the back but once you are the seats are large and comfortable with proper legroom for two adults - this is a hidden extra that the Maser has over its rivals I reckon - I certainly didn't expect it to be so useful anyway.

"I have also been truly surprised at how agile it is for what is quite a large car. It uses aluminium wishbones and hubs all round and mine has the optional BBS 20-inch wheels; it can be thrown into corners, with high levels of grip from the fat P Zeros."

Interior looks good but has suffered in Dubai heat
Interior looks good but has suffered in Dubai heat
What I wish I'd known:
"I got the 4.2 because at the time the 4.7 S was only available with the automated manual gearbox, the ZF gearbox wasn't an option - until about two months after I took delivery of mine!

"I'm not sure the power increase would make too much difference unless at full chat, but the extra torque would lower down, which would have been useful - the 4.2 has been criticised for this and on balance I would probably have gone for the larger engine had I have known.

"Please don't go thinking the 4.2 is a slow car though, it's not; 5.2 seconds to 62mph isn't too shabby and left in sports mode it's always been more than adequate for spirited driving around the city."

Things I hate:
"It's not a sports car - fact - and if you try to use it like one it will ultimately disappoint; the problem is that it's almost there and sometimes you feel like you can press on a bit more, but eventually the lack of steering feel, its weight and not quite enough power will let it down and you then have to remind yourself that it is, as the name actually suggests, a Grand Touring car.

"I have also had problems with the interior plastics; while being of a high quality they are finished with that 'soft feel' rubberised coating that some manufacturers use and after three years of summer heat it started to break down chemically and feel 'sticky' to the touch (a common problem in hot countries apparently). Whilst inconvenient I have to say that both the local dealer and Maserati themselves were brilliant and they replaced everything without any argument at all.

"Oh, and the sat nav is utterly useless and like a lot of people (and before anyone mentions it) I'm not all that keen on the rear lights either!"

Larini exhaust saved weight, makes more noise
Larini exhaust saved weight, makes more noise
Costs:
"Ah, yes - next please - it has suffered from depreciation of course but what car in this bracket doesn't and there does seem to be a demand for good used ones, which should stop it from falling through the floor. Nonetheless, just like others of this ilk, it's the maintenance costs that will get you regardless of the purchase price paid. Maseratis are not cheap to run or maintain and fall into a similar camp as Lambo and Ferrari in this regard unfortunately.

"Having said that, beyond replacing the battery and tyres (due to age not wear) I have had no expenditure beyond regular calendar servicing, which speaks volumes compared to Masers of the past where horror stories abound. If anyone was considering getting a used one, particularly a family man who needs space in the back for the kids, then I certainly wouldn't deter them based on reliability, but you would still need to find a good independent if it's out of warranty.

"None essential costs; well I did fit a Larini Systems (cat back) exhaust just after I got it which hasn't impacted on the warranty at all and in addition to a considerable weight saving (the one on the right is the Larini!) it has significantly improved an already nice sound with plenty of pops and crackles when backing off at higher rpm. It also had a mid-life wheel refurbishment last year where I had the colour changed to the darker 'Grigio Mercuri' which is a factory option anyway, and I had wheel spacers fitted at the same time to improve its stance a bit (a big improvement if you look at the photos with the darker wheels) otherwise it's in standard trim and hasn't had much spent on it by way of extras."

4.2 needs revs, not that Mike minds indulging
4.2 needs revs, not that Mike minds indulging
Where I've been:
"Only out and about in Dubai going to work and back with the occasional longer run to Abu Dhabi; so with only 16,000 kms on the clock this one has led a fairly sheltered life really."

What next?
"I have thought about selling it as it will be out of warranty soon but I'm not sure what to replace it with yet - it's still driven every day, it's in lovely condition and it's doing its intended job well; and this one has a full main dealer history, low kms and only one careful owner! So I suppose I'm not really in any rush.

"Eventually though it may just have to be another Maserati..."


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samoht

Original Poster:

5,917 posts

149 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Great piece, really enthusiastic and insightful.


Nors

1,291 posts

158 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Thanks for the insight, this car is the only car on the wife's radar as a must have. Not going to complain either as they look just stunning. Will be in the market for one in the next 12 months. They look like amazing value 2nd hand.

It'll be a used one though, so good to hear there's not been too many issues on the reliability front. Given the weather in Scotland, I won't be having trouble with the dash getting compromised.

Excellent car!!thumbup

sjc

14,093 posts

273 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Just sold my 5 year old 4.7S Mc shift after 9 months ownership for a 4K profit!Although purely subjective,it's quite possibly the best sounding car on the planet at the moment,and wonderful to stare at.Four proper seats to take adults means that you can forgive it's weight and bulk.The Sat-Nav is crap, the seats offer no support,the battery runs low or flat in days,and then throws all sorts of worrying warning bells and messages that is pretty poor in a 100K car.("It's Italian" isn't really a defence).It also needs another 100 BHP ish to make it really competitive nowadays.That aside,they are far better built than the bloke in the pub would have you believe, the dealers are generally excellent,the brand appears to be loved by Petrolheads and non Petrolheads alike,and every journey is a wonderful event.It was only the inherent (probably unfounded)feeling that I'd get a big bill at some point and couldn't keep that and the M400 that made me bale out,(the 4 grand profit helped as well!)Wonderful things,and something I was really proud to own.

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ajmcampbell

514 posts

139 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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gorgeous car!

edinph

386 posts

177 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Friend runs a Maserati Granturismo as his main car (Also Merc ML and Nissan GTR) and the Maserati has been superb. Only in garage once in two years for service. No breakdowns, no hassles, no worries.............. and sounds glorious burbling through Edinburgh on Sport!
Alfieri next I suspect!

ecs0set

2,474 posts

287 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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scratchchin consults classifieds...

Sampaio

377 posts

141 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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edinph said:
Friend runs a Maserati Granturismo as his main car (Also Merc ML and Nissan GTR) and the Maserati has been superb. Only in garage once in two years for service. No breakdowns, no hassles, no worries.............. and sounds glorious burbling through Edinburgh on Sport!
Alfieri next I suspect!
I was going to suggest him the Alfieri because it sounds just like the kind of car he would like to replace his GT with (more of a sports car than a gran tourer)

MissChief

7,184 posts

171 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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edinph said:
Friend runs a Maserati Granturismo as his main car (Also Merc ML and Nissan GTR) and the Maserati has been superb. Only in garage once in two years for service. No breakdowns, no hassles, no worries.............. and sounds glorious burbling through Edinburgh on Sport!
Alfieri next I suspect!
I've seen a Matt Black one around town, is that the same one? Always parked up though. These look the dogs danglies to me. Would have one in an instant.

Edited by MissChief on Tuesday 6th May 02:43

mikEsprit

830 posts

189 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Coincidentally, just saw one in my small town yesterday--a 2013 S, black with red interior, although it looked like the red leather in the top picture and not the bright red in the lower picture.

Great looking car. The Quattroporte or Ghibli are more likely to be depreciate into my price range, and I may take the leap some day, but neither can turn heads like the GranTurismo.

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

149 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Why does PH have the header 'You know you've got it bad when a Maserati Granturismo is your sensible daily'? - its a Grand Tourer that's what its meant to do, exactly what its been designed for. Tour. fking Grandly.


Amirhussain

11,491 posts

166 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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One of the sexiest looking cars ever made.

kambites

67,861 posts

224 months

Monday 5th May 2014
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Hmm, am I the only one who finds the GranTursimo thoroughly unattractive? It works fine in pictures, but in the metal its size doesn't match its styling - it just looks bloated and awkward to me. I think the 3200/4200 is a much better looking car.

goron59

397 posts

174 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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kambites said:
Hmm, am I the only one who finds the GranTursimo thoroughly unattractive? It works fine in pictures, but in the metal its size doesn't match its styling - it just looks bloated and awkward to me. I think the 3200/4200 is a much better looking car.
I do too. A chap in the garage under where I live had one for a while and it just looks bloated. Heavy and slow too (ok it's all relative).
Sounded great though.

sjc

14,093 posts

273 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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goron59 said:
I do too. A chap in the garage under where I live had one for a while and it just looks bloated. Heavy and slow too (ok it's all relative).
Sounded great though.
Maybe a 4.2 then?
A 4.7S MC-shift is a 4.9 secs to 62 car and around 11 secs to 100,not GTR quick,but comparable with the competition at launch.You do have to wind the engine up,as it's quite revvy for a V8,and s per my post above, it does need another 100BHP now the game has moved on.

kambites

67,861 posts

224 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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I guess that given its primary remit as a GT, people don't want to have to rev it to make decent progress. having said that, I dare say you're not exactly going to struggle to get up to speed to slip onto the motorway even if you don't rev it. smile

only1ian

691 posts

197 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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Love that if you decide the sell let me know! Down the road in Abu Dhabi... Just sold my Alpina b10

ParanoidAndroid

1,360 posts

286 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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sjc said:
Maybe a 4.2 then?
A 4.7S MC-shift is a 4.9 secs to 62 car and around 11 secs to 100,not GTR quick,but comparable with the competition at launch.You do have to wind the engine up,as it's quite revvy for a V8,and s per my post above, it does need another 100BHP now the game has moved on.
Is there much scope for tuning these engines? Lovely car, I'd love an MC Shift but they are holding their price very well. The cheaper 4.2's look great value at around £35k but usual wisdom is to save the pennies a while and get the MC shift.

Porkie

2,378 posts

244 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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Awesome looking cars. FABULOUS sound. Genuine 4 seater and an exotic yet practical car. I really don't understand how these aren't more popular... but that makes them amazing value as well.

Reccomended them to 4 friends who all bought them in various specs. All loved them!

sjc

14,093 posts

273 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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ParanoidAndroid said:
sjc said:
Maybe a 4.2 then?
A 4.7S MC-shift is a 4.9 secs to 62 car and around 11 secs to 100,not GTR quick,but comparable with the competition at launch.You do have to wind the engine up,as it's quite revvy for a V8,and s per my post above, it does need another 100BHP now the game has moved on.
Is there much scope for tuning these engines? Lovely car, I'd love an MC Shift but they are holding their price very well. The cheaper 4.2's look great value at around £35k but usual wisdom is to save the pennies a while and get the MC shift.
Not really, a few have had a DMS re-map but then tested it side by side with a standard car and there was nothing in it. My guess would be if there is cope, they would have found it for the two seat Strad, but that has had only a couple of minor power increases in it's life. In fairness, the 440 odd BHP of the 4.7S model gives it enough shove generally, especially between 80-130 ish, it's just not pin-you-back-in-your-seat-wow! type shove.
It's one of those cars that seems more than a car, it's something lovely to have owned at some point in your life, the noise is very special, it's got oodles of character, feels like it was built by someone rather than by something (I know that's not the case),and it gave me one of the best drives of my life around the sweeping welsh coastal roads on holiday last summer.

richard300

1,085 posts

212 months

Tuesday 6th May 2014
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Great looking, Italian flare, ample performance, practical (I have two children), well built and engineered, a badge steeped in history and legend, great sounding engine and exhaust note, Automatic (i drive in traffic a lot)..... For me they are the perfect car.

But (if i had the funds) the real clincher for me, would me the brand image.... For me, most of the other prestige/sporting brands just have a dire image.

My personal perception is that Bentley and Range Rover just scream 'Essex and WAG'. Ferrari is all... bright red glossy Fila/puma trainers, baseball caps and cruising around Puerto Banus. Lamborghini - Needs no explanation!. Mercedes is nice but nothing to get excited about. And then you have Porsche.... I once owned a Porsche, and if anyone asked me what car i drove, i would always refer to the other car i owned (a Saab) as i just felt like a bell end saying "A Porsche"....

Jaguar and Maserati though..... lovely.