RE: Mercedes C63 AMG Edition 507: PH Fleet

RE: Mercedes C63 AMG Edition 507: PH Fleet

Tuesday 3rd June 2014

Mercedes C63 AMG Edition 507: PH Fleet

Will we ever have an AMG that sounds as good as the 63? We'll find out on Friday, until then...



Noise is an important part of the AMG experience. And a timely issue to discuss, given I'm off to Affalterbach later this week to get the full tech briefing on the new 4.0-litre V8 engine that will soon provide the beating heart for the C63's replacement, not to mention the new Mercedes-AMG GT. And future Aston Martins too.

A reduction in swept capacity of over a third will be something of a fundamental shift in mindset for AMG, which has always gone for the 'bigger is better ... then go a bit bigger just to be sure' mentality when it comes to engines. OK, so we've already had a twin-turbo V8. But that was 5.5-litre so hardly downsized.

Never mind the numbers, it's the noise that matters
Never mind the numbers, it's the noise that matters
Even AMG has to embrace the trend though, especially given the punitive taxes applied to engines over 4.0 litres. The 'inside out' turbo V8 from Audi is already on the market in RS models (and Bentleys) and, though it must really annoy AMG, there's little choice but to keep within this limit.

Little doubt it'll do the numbers performance wise. But will it sound good?

The sound engineering that's gone into the C63 is, I think, absolutely perfect. There's a showy little blip of revs when you fire it up - I've taken to leaving the driver's door open of a morning when I first start up to bask in its glory - which is possibly a bit contrived. But other than that it seems remarkably free of the over stimulated theatrics performance car exhausts from hot hatches to supercars now feel it necessary to include. The C63 soundtrack is pitch perfect though. Loud enough to be noticeable without ever actually being unsociable enough to have people tutting, the way they might have if you were in a Subaru with a bean tin back box. Fire it up in a Waitrose car park and heads will turn, looking for the source of the noise. But it'll be a reflex action, not a 'who let that chav in here?' disgust. And they definitely wouldn't expect it to have come from the grey Mercedes estate either.

Dan convinced pal to buy a '63, still in good books
Dan convinced pal to buy a '63, still in good books
And on the move it's always, always there. You can feel it through your spine. Yet it's never intrusive. An engine of that size couldn't be anything other than dominant to the experience of driving this car. But the beauty is you can just be tickling along and still derive pleasure from it.

Boy, when you're pressing on though... The savage crack you get on full bore upshifts about one time in every five just makes me giggle. Some newer cars, A45 included, have been programmed to do it every time you change gear meaning the novelty is lost. The '63 will only do it every now and then, which makes it all the more exciting when it does happen. You'll probably now be thinking 'right then, where's the video...' A new clip is on the to-do list. Meanwhile here's the launch control one from a while back to hammer home the point.

Sod the numbers, just make sure it sounds good
Sod the numbers, just make sure it sounds good
Other things on the to-do list? Well, I've got a growing list of C63 owning PHers and intend to arrange a little meet at some point in the not too distant. The pal I talked into buying one thankfully seems to be enjoying exactly the same bonding process as I am, albeit a couple of months further down the line. We're pretty tedious company really, often to be found in the pub dreamily staring into the middle distance and sharing the love for our AMGs. The difference being he won't have to give his back in September.

Other observations on life with the 507? Well, in Comfort mode (my default for daily driving) the time consuming process of navigating the gear selector from P to D and 'soft' step-off actually makes for an embarrassingly slow departure off the line. I've not been parped from behind yet but no doubt a few have been mystified as to why I'm so slow away from the lights. There's always S or S+ mode but that's a bit savage for town driving. There's always the occasional Race Start option to liven things up of course. Or perhaps holding it on the brake and doing a proper rolling burnout up Teddington High Street.

Yes. That's what we need for next month. More noise. And some tyre smoke. On the case.


FACT SHEET
Car:
 2013 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507
Run by: Dan
On fleet since: March 2014
Mileage: 10,343
List price new: £68,470 before options (£80,075 as tested, comprising Privacy Glass £330, reversing camera £390, Lighting Package £150, three-zone climate control £590, Keyless Go £665, AMG Performance Media £2,040, Comand Online with six-disc changer £250, DAB £335, Harmon Kardon surround sound £650, phone pre-wiring with roof aerial £290, Designo Magno Platinum paint £3,660, rear axle limited-slip differential £1,745 and 19-inch wheels £510)
Last month at a glance: Nope, novelty not wearing off one bit

Previous reports:
C63 arrives, Dan hasn't let anyone else have a go since
Look, it's thirsty ... of course it's thirsty

Photos: Dave Smith

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wildman0609

Original Poster:

885 posts

177 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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I have started leaving the door open now when I fire it up too. Cold start up is amazing. Its an amazing car for just pootling along, but when you get a clear bit of back lane its just monstrous, you really do get out of it giggling. I find myself ringing out the lower gears to get the pops and bangs on down shift. I can't imagine a better car out there at the moment.

W124

1,545 posts

139 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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The sound symposer things are like relic'd guitars. Just philosophically wrong.

Dave Hedgehog

14,569 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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dirty dirty sounding cars

pay attention BMW

ghibbett

1,901 posts

186 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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I let my Father take mine out for a spin at the weekend. Nothing fast - or so he says - but it sounded much louder from a bystanders' perspective. Made me biggrin

simonbamg

767 posts

124 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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this might sound really sad but on cold start up ive taken to starting it then going round the back and pretending to get something out of the boot just to listen to it,taking it a step to far now.

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

148 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Apart from the tints, (obviously), that is a great looking machine.
do you have to go into park at the lights?

moffat

1,020 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Kinda echos my thoughts about the C63 too.

I leave the door open too on startup smile

My car was winning the noise show at the Luxury Motor Show in Nottingham recently. Inchcape MB fired up their CLS63 and gave it a few revs too, but as lovely as the 5.5 sounds it really cannot live with the 6.2 for overall noise and sound.

My car is leased and I hate even thinking about the day it will go back, it will be like losing a member of the family wink

On the 'crack' noise, you can get it to happen on demand but you need to be in manual or S+ and do a 100% throttle and red line gear change.

I like S mode for the gearbox around town when you need to use first, but agree that S+ is too much. I actually think M is more fun than S+ as you get more control over the gearbox. S+ is likely to be great for the track but it holds onto the gears for too long for me when not needed.

I would like to be a passenger in my car a little more often to fully appreciate it. I plan to make quite a few GoPro videos before it's departure next year, and likely this summer when (and if) the weather is nice.

Happy to be a part of any C63 meet if it is not too far away from Nottingham.




wildman0609

Original Poster:

885 posts

177 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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simonbamg said:
this might sound really sad but on cold start up ive taken to starting it then going round the back and pretending to get something out of the boot just to listen to it,taking it a step to far now.
i like this.

I'm less subtle though, I just sit there and rev it before shutting the engine off

http://youtu.be/adGDrB7HFWw

Turbobanana

6,292 posts

202 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Dan
Your comment about "starting it up in Waitrose car park" really struck home: I heard one start for the first time actually in a Waitrose car park and thought it was thunder...
I've never looked under one, but guess that the distance from the tail pipes to the back box must be quite long. My Saab 900 has that feature and it makes for a lovely burble.

moffat

1,020 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Prawnboy said:

do you have to go into park at the lights?
No, there is a useful brake-hold function where you depress the brake pedal all the way down. Touching the accelerator pedal or brake releases it again. Great at junctions and in stationary traffic.

I can kind on my fingers the number of times I have used the actual handbrake, not really needed in an automatic except on steep hills.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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I said it before in the last thread on this car and I will say it again: GIMME GIMME GIMME! bow

ghibbett

1,901 posts

186 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Am off to Austria the week after next. Will film a few Autobahn runs...driving

gumsie

680 posts

210 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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wildman0609 said:
I have started leaving the door open now when I fire it up too. Cold start up is amazing. Its an amazing car for just pootling along, but when you get a clear bit of back lane its just monstrous, you really do get out of it giggling. I find myself ringing out the lower gears to get the pops and bangs on down shift. I can't imagine a better car out there at the moment.
That makes me laugh out loud. I only had a CL500 but I used to do the same.
Must confess though I think the AMG sonic v8 heyday was the Supercharged unit in the 55. The newer units have too much of a rasp to the exhaust note that just reminds me of dem Duke Bwoyz.

Dave Hedgehog

14,569 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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gumsie said:
wildman0609 said:
I have started leaving the door open now when I fire it up too. Cold start up is amazing. Its an amazing car for just pootling along, but when you get a clear bit of back lane its just monstrous, you really do get out of it giggling. I find myself ringing out the lower gears to get the pops and bangs on down shift. I can't imagine a better car out there at the moment.
That makes me laugh out loud. I only had a CL500 but I used to do the same.
Must confess though I think the AMG sonic v8 heyday was the Supercharged unit in the 55. The newer units have too much of a rasp to the exhaust note that just reminds me of dem Duke Bwoyz.
i must admit when i had the RS6 on loan i opened all the windows on the remote before getting into the car even thou it was cold and raining lol, blipping at traffic lights probably played a part in the 12mpg i got as well lol


MrJerv

43 posts

166 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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Ive had mine since Mar 2013 and at a minimum have a window / door open when starting her up... But when its been a few days, or its a cold morning I start it up whilst standing outside the car to get the full effect.... Doesnt get old!

In addition, spirited drives require both back windows to be very slightly down to let in a little more noise

moffat

1,020 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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MrJerv said:
Ive had mine since Mar 2013 and at a minimum have a window / door open when starting her up... But when its been a few days, or its a cold morning I start it up whilst standing outside the car to get the full effect.... Doesnt get old!

In addition, spirited drives require both back windows to be very slightly down to let in a little more noise
I friend asked me to blip it the other day and it made is 2 year old boy and 5 year old girl cry evil

GrahamPM

1,057 posts

232 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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I've had my C63BS for 21 months and absolutely love it - only car I've ever bought without driving before hand (down to rave reviews from the likes of Mr Harris! Thanks!!) Trouble is, it's on a 2 year MB deal and with three months left cannot find a worthy replacement!
It'll be a sad day indeed when it goes.
Graham

PS - Let me know when the C63 appreciation society meet up is!

Edited by GrahamPM on Tuesday 3rd June 13:45

Dave Hedgehog

14,569 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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GrahamPM said:
I've had my C63BS for 21 months and absolutely love it - only car I've ever bought without driving before hand (down to rave reviews from the likes of Mr Harris! Thanks!!) Trouble is, it's on a 2 year MB deal and with three months left cannot find a worthy replacement!
It'll be a sad day indeed when it goes.
Graham

PS - Let me know when the C63 appreciation society meet up is!

Edited by GrahamPM on Tuesday 3rd June 13:45
you can normally buy them from the lease company for far less than retail, i bought my R32 golf for its trade value

GroundEffect

13,844 posts

157 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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EIGHTY THOUSAND POUNDS?

andystyler

9 posts

155 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2014
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As a long standing reader (and lurker) I thought I'd log in for this one....

I'm on my 2nd C63 and got to say I absolutely love these cars; the aggression, rawness and shear power. Oh and that noise :-D

I've added a couple of photos of my current one. 63 plate Coupe, AMG Performance Pack, Diamond White, Titanium 19's, AMG Performance Suspension (difference is night and day!), Harmon Kardon, Reverse Camera, Privacy Glass...





When's this owners meet up? I'm well up for it