RE: Mercedes-AMG GT: Review

RE: Mercedes-AMG GT: Review

Friday 14th November 2014

Mercedes-AMG GT S: Review

Enough of the number crunching - here's what the new AMG GT is actually like to drive



There are some big questions looming over the Mercedes-AMG GT, some philosophical like what it indicates about the future direction of a much-loved performance brand and fast cars in general. And others more straightforward, like does it sound good and does it do big skids. Throw both at senior AMG personnel like boss Tobias Moers and they roll their eyes at the former. And grin and nod at the latter. Which is kind of reassuring.

Those worries though. Noise is a big one - can the 'hot-V' turbo 4.0-litre V8 that'll be at the heart of the AMG (and Aston Martin) range for many years to come match the old normally aspirated 6.2 for charisma and firepower? And can that straight-talking simplicity we've loved in AMGs of the past survive into the new high-tech era?

No worries on the sound front; phew!
No worries on the sound front; phew!
Straight talk
Yes, it sounds fabulous. When you ask Moers his favoured settings in the Individual mode of the configurable driver settings he instantly fires back "Exhaust on loud!" before having to spend a bit more time mulling over the various permutations of settings for suspension, engine, ESP and more. No engine noise through the speakers here either. Just a solid, bassy rumble most definitely resonating through the exhaust system and unequivocally created by a very potent V8 engine. More so when you press the optional 'loud' button.

There's absolutely no sense of forced induction in the noise or, indeed, the power delivery. Which is clearly a deliberate move. Where a 911 Turbo or GT-R make the rush of boost a defining character trait AMG clearly wants you to think the GT generates its 510hp and 480lb ft without the help of a couple of turbos. And does a pretty convincing job.

Moers explains that the engine has been deliberately mapped so as not to deliver the great big wallop of low down torque that characterises so many modern turbo engines. This despite the figures saying peak is available from just 1,750rpm on the higher powered S model we drove. Yes, it feels immensely gutsy and strong. But the engineers wanted to avoid sudden destabilising spikes of torque for a more predictable, linear throttle and improved corner exit traction.

Yes, it's a looker alright
Yes, it's a looker alright
It ain't half hot mum
It bloody works too. The first time we drive the GT in anger is attempting to keep up with Bernd Schneider at Laguna Seca, whose definition of a ducks and drakes 'warm-up lap' is best described as uncompromising. Bernd's immediately on it and the only option to try and find the line is to keep up with him. A little squiggle on a freeway entry ramp earlier suggested the GT has a traditionally AMG approach to laying down its power but on circuit it's clear there's more sophistication than ever before.

Our S models have the electronic locking diff and with a little slip dialled in to the mid-way ESP Sport setting you can feel it playing with the power to maximise traction. Indeed, it quickly becomes clear skidfoolery requires serious provocation. Mainly it wants to go forwards. Very rapidly.

It's still a car whose cornering attitude can be very easily dictated by throttle inputs. But as the realisation dawns about how effectively the diff lays down the power you goad yourself into earlier and bolder applications of power. And, dammit, the thing just grips and goes. And goes. And ... blimey ... REALLY goes. With peak torque available all the way to 5,000rpm and peak horsepower at 6,250rpm you've got a huge powerband to play in and the reach of third and fourth gears in particular is enormous. It will pull from short-shifted higher gears but you need revs to get the most out of it and it's still pulling really hard at the 7K limiter. So the engine's good.

A fiercely competitive driver. And Bernd Schneider
A fiercely competitive driver. And Bernd Schneider
Variable response
What about the steering? Here it's harder to be objective. First things first, it's still hydraulically assisted and the variable ratio rack is thankfully not a fully active system like the one in the Huracan. Thank god. It's a more straightforward mechanically progressive rack that, around the dead centre, is geared the same as the SLS's before speeding up at the extremes. Given that AMG deliberately ditched such sytems when turning cars like the A-Class into the A45 and insisted on a linear rack, is this not a betrayal of a core value?

It's definitely not as weighty or decisive as what we'd now class old-school AMGs like the SLS or outgoing W204 C63. Without that resistance to work against it feels quite darty and light on first encounter. Forget all the turbos and other distractions - this is the first time the GT feels like something different. And, as such, it's hard to reconcile this lack of weight and feel with the clearly huge reserves of front-end grip.

If not as light as a 911 the GT is a significant chunk less than an F-Type or V8 Vantage and its mass is well contained between the axles. This, significantly improved stability under braking and the diff's ability to open when you're off the throttle means turn-in is precise, predictable and exploitable. Once you learn to trust it. You need to have really, really got your approach speed to a corner wrong to have it feel like it's going to push on and stabilising effect of the rear axle when you get back on the power means it turns neatly and with surprising agility.

Some 'still want that 911?' comment here
Some 'still want that 911?' comment here
England v Germany
The F-Type R that seems the most natural rival in terms of power and purpose wouldn't see which way the GT went. It's way more sophisticated in the way it dissects a corner and that more nuanced power delivery is much more effective. And where the Jag will be bonfiring its tyres and demanding more than a dab of oppo the GT carries huge speed into the corners and exits them with just a nadge of corrective lock.

The gearbox is an evolution of the Getrag seven-speed double-clutch used in the SLS (and, indeed, Ferrari 458) but the calibration and response is night and day better. Drive an SLS in manual mode and one tug in four of the downshift paddle on corner approach typically gets a refusal. Not so in the GT - shifts are delivered rapidly and exactly when demanded. Indeed, at anything other than maximum attack it's almost too keen, often delivering two or even three downshifts when one would have done. As with other AMGs, the automatic S+ mode is, whisper it, often the better option and very canny at delivering the shift just when you want it, complete with an extravagantly executed blip.

What's so impressive in the GT is the way all the technology interacts with seemingly a common goal. Much like the BMW M3/M4 you get the impression of some very thorough and extremely clever calibration work, most keenly expressed in the wide operating window of grip and slip available in ESP Sport mode. If you're clumsy it'll intervene with equal heavy handedness but keep it smooth and you discover it's willing to work with you and let you play with the GT's cornering attitude through trailed brakes and increasingly bold throttle inputs.

Shorter than an SLS but just as wide
Shorter than an SLS but just as wide
We are sailing
And then you can slip it back into Comfort mode and chuckle at the little icon of a sailing boat that comes up as the GT literally freewheels back down the freeway to home. Here you can appreciate the more luxurious flourishes making good on the name, the low-slung driving position snuggled between doors and a substantial transmission tunnel festooned with those mode buttons.

The slot-like windscreen, burly low-speed ride and width of the thing make it a reasonably intimidating device in traffic. And though shorter than an SLS it's no narrower, meaning it doesn't really feel much more compact in real terms.

The presence of the SL in the range means cruisers remain catered for, leaving the GT able to play more to the bruiser and open up an exciting new front in an increasingly competitive area of the market. It's got some formidable competition, with more on the way too. But as a way of introducing a new engine, a new way of thinking and a very new-school interpretation of AMG's core values the GT is off to a flying start.


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On the road...

MERCEDES-AMG GT
Engine:
 3,982cc V8, turbocharged
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 462@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 443@1,600-5,000rpm
0-62mph: 4.0sec (claimed)
Top speed: 189mph (claimed)
Weight: 1,540kg (DIN, without driver, 1,615kg to EU)
MPG: 30.4mpg (claimed)
CO2: 216g/km
Price: £97,195

MERCEDES-AMG GT S
Engine:
 3,982cc V8, turbocharged
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 510@6,250rpm
Torque (lb ft): 480@1,750-5,000rpm
0-62mph: 3.8 sec (claimed)
Top speed: 193mph (claimed)
Weight: 1,570kg (DIN, without driver, 1,645kg to EU)
MPG: 30.1mpg (claimed)
CO2: 219g/km
Price: £110,495










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Discussion

Oddball RS

Original Poster:

1,757 posts

219 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I love the video, that's what Mercs do so well, cruise, do you still want that 911, yes! because I don't want a auto sports car, it takes my fun and interaction away.

cayman-black

12,648 posts

217 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I am sure it good but for me its just a little ugly.
That engine in a Aston Martin though Hmmm.

Edited by cayman-black on Friday 14th November 10:45

MikeGoodwin

3,340 posts

118 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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This is solid proof car manufacturers can still produce a great sounding motor without the need to pipe induction or exhaust noise into the cabin. Im really looking forward to the new C63 now the AMG GT has been released.

Europa1

10,923 posts

189 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Not sure about the looks side on - it looks like a 911 that has its nose pulled.

Wizardskills

243 posts

168 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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So much want. I'll take mine in yellow please!

steveb8189

474 posts

192 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Great sounding engine. A little overrun on liftoff but not to the extreme as other cars seem to have developed recently. Is it just me or do the gear changes sound a bit clunky? My gear changes typically have a little more mechanical sympathy...

moffat

1,020 posts

226 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Wow best pictures so far, looks stunning in red with the aero kit. I genuinely dislike the looks of the current 911 so this has my vote. Will be great to see it head to head with the F Type R V8.

I too am really keen to drive the new C63 now as well. Coming from the current C63 my biggest concern was the lack of sense of occasion that you get losing cc's but this proves the AMG magic is still there.

The new C63 will trounce the M3/4 for engine noise and sense of occasion.

AMG GT Black is going to be stunning!

gregf40

1,114 posts

117 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Oh my god.

I've been wanting a cruiser for sometime and I think I've just found it!

I'm getting on the phone now and ordering that exact spec. I'm in love!

alolympic

700 posts

198 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I think it's gorgeous!

toys

239 posts

260 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Great looking car, apart from the stupid darkened rear side windows! Why is 'privacy glass' even an option - there are no back seats!


Gecko1978

9,723 posts

158 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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So £110k without options but still this might be change as a £100k super car is more realistic than say a £300k or £1m car etc good on Merc a proper fast 200mph car (nearly) thats not made in a shed,

An hopefully in 4 years will be worth 50k so I can have one

nicfaz

432 posts

231 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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What are the other trim differences? Seems like the best value option would be to buy the cheaper one and get your local Merc tuner to more than make up for the power difference?

MyCC

337 posts

158 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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This is why Jag needed to start offering a four wheel drive FType. Now that is a comparison I would like to see.

Still not sure about the bug eye headlights but love the back .

Regards,

MyCC

DodoRacing

539 posts

208 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Bullseye by MB!

Will there be roadster me wonders?


suffolk009

5,415 posts

166 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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"dab of oppo"?

I believe that may be a trademark infringement.

Josco010

143 posts

193 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Do i want a 911?...Lol!! After listening to this AMG, then going back to listen to the GT3rs or rs4.0 or just the new GT3, thats not even a question to ask... I will give both my nuts to have anyone of the GT3's listed above anytime, mind you the AMG will appeal to those who don't appreciate the Porcker, muscle or Hot Rod car sound(Merc, Audi) vs screaming race bred engine(Porsche, BMW M's).

soad

32,903 posts

177 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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alolympic said:
I think it's gorgeous!
yes I want one. cry

daytona365

1,773 posts

165 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Lovely car, but the front is waaay better looking than that horrid cropped tail. Imo anyway.

Daniel1

2,931 posts

199 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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i dont like it in red. Will have to hold of judgement till i see one in the flesh.

Good effort on the noise though smile

ocrx8

868 posts

197 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Styling is growing on me by the day. Can't wait to see and hear one in the metal.