RE: Never wash your car again!

RE: Never wash your car again!

Monday 5th October 2015

Never wash your car again!

We test a new ceramic coating promising a three-year shine for minimal upkeep so less buffing and more driving - win!



Most of us like the idea of a clean and shiny car but the realities of keeping it that way present all manner of dilemmas. You can get truly obsessive, spending all your money on magic potions, special cloths, buffing machines and the like and devoting your time to discussing them with fellow detailing fanatics. Then there comes the elbow grease and hours spent on your knees, worshipping at the altar of perfect, blemish free paint, polishing mitt on hand.

Or you can shrug, sling a sponge over it every now and then, try not to lose sleep over swirl marks or how many microns of paint there are left on your panels and get on with your life.


The big sell with coating systems like the one being presented to us by Surrey-based Renovatio Automotive Detailing is a cake and eat it solution of a long-term shine that, after the initial investment, requires minimal upkeep. That it also has a degree of scratch and stone chip resistance without the need for protective film is a further selling point, Renovatio boasting of "total car protection" rather than just ugly patches to protect "high traffic" areas. The number of supercars passing through its workshop - everything from Ferrari to Pagani - would suggest they're doing a good job convincing owners it works.

The exact properties of these coatings are closely guarded commercial secrets but Renovatio is keen to make a fuss of its exclusive deal with a new formula developed by SiRamiK. Renovatio has been using the firm's products for the last couple of years but this latest ceramic coating is said to take the process to a new level of protection.


It ain't cheap though. Using a 997 911 as an example (final costs depend on the size of the vehicle) it would cost £1,995 to apply, for which you get a guaranteed three-year shine on the basis you clean the car according to the prescribed technique and with the right products. Don't be too intimidated though - Renovatio says regular hand washing with ph-neutral shampoo is enough thanks to the promised self-cleaning and water repellant properties of the coating. Two-bucket fastidiousness is recommended but SiRamiK's accelerated testing regime of using an old, mud-covered sponge on a test panel would indicate the sheen is plenty tough enough to last the distance. Depending on use and exposure to contaminants you might need a top-up at the hands of an approved professional now and then but Renovatio can advise on a case by case basis.


The price is around twice as much as the existing SiRamiK product Renovatio has been using, material costs and the fact it takes four days rather than two to apply partly accounting for that. To give you an idea of the work involved the paintwork gets fully "refined" to "better than new" condition removing contaminants, scratches and swirl marks before the application process can even start. Boy Scouts with a bucket and sponge on bob a job week this is not. Before and after photos and the big sell can only get you so far though and to see if the SiRamiK coating really does work as promised we've taken Danny Milner's PH Fleet Lotus Elise along for the full treatment and will be reporting back over the coming months to see if it really does mean you can spend less time with the polishing potions and more time driving.

Which, ultimately, has to be a good thing.









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jason61c

Original Poster:

3,077 posts

115 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Valeting really is getting expensive now days.

TurboHatchback

3,382 posts

94 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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sleep

Monty Python

4,432 posts

138 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Two grand for a 911-size car? If I was that bothered I'd use a clear vinyl wrap instead.

stuart-b

3,603 posts

167 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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It's also worth noting that I had this done on my E92 over here (cost around £800 with much cheaper labour rates). The car was in the shop for 5 days (full inside/out valet, protection of everything).

It was great, apart from the front, where after 3-4 months I noticed a huge increase in small white chips. I knew it wasn't me imagining things because I took pics before/after. After some research online I found other users of Ceramic Pro who also mentioned this - they put it down to the fact the coating made the whole paint much more brittle due to the layer over the top.

I have not done the same thing to my Z4 yet because I think it's going to be better having the protection done, then having an actual film put over the top - both on my door sills and the front bumper/bonnet.

More research is required... perhaps someone can chime in.

Rude-boy

22,104 posts

174 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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£2k to cover a 911?

I'll stick to washing them when I feel like it and the odd valet here and there when i can bare to let anyone else near it with a cleaning cloth.
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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

67 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Never wash your car again!

But...

Dan Trent said:
...a guaranteed three-year shine on the basis you clean the car according to the prescribed technique and with the right products. Don't be too intimidated though - Renovatio says regular hand washing with ph-neutral shampoo is enough thanks to the promised self-cleaning and water repellant properties of the coating. Two-bucket fastidiousness is recommended...
Novel definition of "Never wash your car again!", Dan.

So, basically, two quid a day for a coating that means your car stays clean so long as you wash it regularly. All my cars have had that. It's called "paint", and is a standard factory feature on just about everything.

ash73

15,790 posts

162 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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So you pay £2K and then have to wash it to keep it shiny? biggrin

mat205125

15,539 posts

154 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
Never wash your car again!

But...

Dan Trent said:
...a guaranteed three-year shine on the basis you clean the car according to the prescribed technique and with the right products. Don't be too intimidated though - Renovatio says regular hand washing with ph-neutral shampoo is enough thanks to the promised self-cleaning and water repellant properties of the coating. Two-bucket fastidiousness is recommended...
Novel definition of "Never wash your car again!", Dan.

So, basically, two quid a day for a coating that means your car stays clean so long as you wash it regularly. All my cars have had that. It's called "paint", and is a standard factory feature on just about everything.
yes

Exactly.

Should read "Never polish your car again.

Whilst I like a clean and shiny car as much as the next person, I don't understand why people spend so much time on cars like the Ferrari Speciale in the feature ....... it's designed as a drivers car! f@#king drive it and enjoy it, and who cares if it gets dirty, chipped and scraped along the way!!

Pesty

39,606 posts

197 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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I'm not seeing the point of this. Plenty of all in one products that are wipe,on wipe off. Wash use one of those.

Dan Trent

1,836 posts

109 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
Novel definition of "Never wash your car again!", Dan.

So, basically, two quid a day for a coating that means your car stays clean so long as you wash it regularly. All my cars have had that. It's called "paint", and is a standard factory feature on just about everything.
Fair one. But I was long pondering a headline that would draw people in, given it's quite a 'dry' subject matter! wink

Dan

DrTre

12,955 posts

173 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Nice advert

Don't get me wrong, I know it's par for the course as a commercial site, and I'm not complaining that you're passing on info about a product of interest to car owners but a comparison feature might make for a more interesting read (to me).

PS sorry, not aimed directly at Dan.

Edited by DrTre on Monday 5th October 14:17

thelawnet1

1,532 posts

96 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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How much did they pay you to write this sh*te?

R8VXF

5,566 posts

56 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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thelawnet1 said:
How much did they pay you to write this sh*te?
A free coating on the Elise...

Pesty

39,606 posts

197 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Dan Trent said:
Fair one. But I was long pondering a headline that would draw people in, given it's quite a 'dry' subject matter! wink

Dan
So you blatantly lie in order just to get people to read your article.


Couldn't you have put never wax/polish again. Or plenty of other things.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

145 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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There was a company or product around 10 years ago called Tefloseal that offered something similar, it might be the same people. I got a sample of it and I've washed my car again since, but the shine it left on the car (GRP and no paint) was something else.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

67 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Dan Trent said:
But I was long pondering a headline that would draw people in, given it's quite a 'dry' subject matter! wink
"Buy our over-priced polish!"

rb5er

11,608 posts

113 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Hmm. 2k for a good lasting polish. I think I will just continue polishing every 3-6 months and keep that 2k in the bank.

Talk about money for nothing.

treetops

1,110 posts

99 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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So let me get this right you have to clean the thing that makes your car shine?

Errr just like cleaning the paintwork to begin with?

Nice idea, I'm sure its pretty clever stuff.

ManFromDelmonte

2,742 posts

121 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Sorry PH but this is a bullst headlined, click-bait, Daily Mail style article that reeks of being promoted content. About as interesting and useful as a NP&E thread.

J4CKO

27,212 posts

141 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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"Never wash your car again"


Easy, just have a sex change, my missus has never cleaned a car as far as I am aware, don't think my mum has, her mum definitely hasnt, how often do you see ladies cleaning cars that isnt in some gangsta rap video, and being critical, they dont really do a very thorough job, its all about suds, boobs and windows, no two bucket method there, never see them getting in between the spokes on the alloys, I might stick MTV base on to check......again