RE: Mercedes-AMG C63 Coupe: Review

RE: Mercedes-AMG C63 Coupe: Review

Saturday 14th November 2015

2015 Mercedes-AMG C63 Coupe (W205) | Review

From BMW M4 to Nissan GT-R the new C63 sees AMG on the attack and in no mood to take prisoners



Essentials for any AMG first drive? V8s and tyre smoke. Preferably lots of tyre smoke. We've got a track. And Bernd Schneider is on hand to lead us in ducks and drakes, experience showing this basically means a lesson in why we're not multiple DTM champions and he is.

But the 'Sol' bit of the Costa del Sol location isn't playing. And ducks and drakes seems an unfortunately literal description of what Ascari Race Resort has in store. Fresh from driving the PH Fleet BMW M4 around Brands Hatch in similar conditions I do at least have a reference for comparison. And reflexes primed for the inevitable 'I meant to do that, honest' sideways moments.

I'll work on the basis you're up to speed on the C63 Coupe by now. Basics are a £61,160, 476hp C63 or a 510hp £68,870 S version. Both are based around the same 4.0-litre, 'hot-V' M178 twin-turbo V8 and drive through AMG's proven lock-up clutch MCT automatic transmission. All the cars on the launch are - inevitably - fully specced S versions with the optional ceramic front brakes and all the trimmings. As driven we're looking at a £75K car here, a handy comparison with the £74K bottom line of 'our' M4.


Having recently declared the BMW winner in a head-to-head test with the C63 S saloon I'm doing my best to avoid eye contact with AMG boss Tobias Moers. Not quite ready for that conversation with him yet. Maybe over dinner.

Humble pie may be on the menu. Because comparing C63 saloon to M4 coupe may have given the BMW false sense of security. This C63 Coupe is a significantly different car and a much, much more serious proposition. Not surprising really - in the last year in which saloon, wagon and coupe versions of the last C63 were sold in the UK 48 per cent were coupes. If the others are the support acts this is the main event for Moers and his team.

Key to this is an entirely new AMG specific rear axle, currently unique to the Coupe but, says Moers, to feature in the next AMG E-Class too. A multi-link design, all but the toe control arms are fixed to the body on solid pillow-ball mounts and it's 46mm broader in track than the saloon's. The front suspension is also unique to the coupe and 38mm wider than the four-door. Spring, damper, camber and steering settings are all bespoke. What difference should we be looking for? "More precision," says Moers, simply.


The visual differences between C63 and regular Coupe are striking too. Only the roof, doors and bootlid are common and the broader track makes it 67mm wider overall. These big arches help bulk out the looks and it's a much more aggressive looking car than the standard Coupe. Eye of the beholder but there lurks a nagging doubt over the proportions even AMG's styling enhancements can't quite address.

Chin stroking over aesthetics is quickly forgotten as the engine fires with an exhaust note as cartoonish as the looks. In Comfort mode the three-flap Performance Exhaust UK cars get as standard is apparently quieter than the standard single-flap one. But who selects that on an AMG launch? Exactly. Full noise it is. On tickover it's menacingly bassy. The cars braking down through the gears for the first chicane thunder and crackle like a firework display. Sure, this is engineered sound. But at least it's real sound.

So it comes across as a bit of a brute in looks, noise and the crushing on-paper power advantage over rivals. But at the wheel there's finesse and subtlety as well. A pity AMG has felt the need to follow the trend for endless modes and configurability because in its defaults everything feels spot on. Fiddle if you want but there's the clear impression AMG's chassis and drivetrain engineers know more than you do when it comes to the ideal settings. Because they do.


Instantly there's a heft and intent to the steering you don't quite get in the saloon or wagon; the weight of the old car's hydraulic system isn't there but nor is the initial gloopiness you get in the M4. The extra cylinders and cubic capacity are another advantage, smoothing the transition between on and off boost and giving the throttle a more natural feel. Like the steering, there isn't quite the instant connection of the old normally-aspirated car but of all the new-school turbos AMG has arguably managed it better than most. And the giddying combination of V8 noise and turbocharged thrust is just mega.

Perhaps the most surprising thing on this slithery track is how tenacious the chassis is. Loss of traction in the M4 happens quickly and, unless you're happy to ride out the ensuing slide, can have you taking several bites at the corner. Like the GT S, the C63 S's active diff has an accommodating softness to the way it divvies up the power and is much more about maintaining traction. Sure, it doesn't take a huge provocation to induce a significant rotation. But if you try and hold it you end up battling a diff that very much wants to get the car straight again. Faster and more effective. But if you prefer the unreconstructed drift monster vibe of the old car you might actually be better off with the non-S and its mechanical locking diff.

ESP on and the C63 can still carry decent speed even in these conditions. ESP Sport lets you play with the angles on the throttle without embarrassing yourself in front of Bernd, though can descend into a scrappy argument between who's actually sorting out the slide. And off? Entertaining.


The damping is sublime too. Given the amount of weight the chassis is having to contain the body control is fabulous, the balance pin-sharp, understeer almost an irrelevance in all but the tightest corners. Unlike the M4, which feels like its variable damping is attempting to mitigate against inherently over-stiff coils, the spring rates in the AMG feel spot-on and the variable damper settings either side of default just fine-tuning for mood and feel. As a result there's a calmness and authority in the C63's chassis the more urgent BMW can't match; 188kg weight penalty or not you get the impression a C63 will be all over the bootlid of the BMW thanks to its firepower and poise. Swagger, confidence, call it what you will but Moers' promise of Black Series focus with 'regular' AMG usability seems to be honoured.

Is it just a little too polished and mature? Maybe. The real weak link remains that MCT gearbox though, especially given how the focus of the rest of the car has sharpened. It's better than it was but is still overly cautious about delivering downshifts under braking, before then giving you two or three when you only wanted one. As per previous AMGs, it's actually better in S+ mode, complete with extravagant automated blips. But it can't match the race sequential impression of the BMW's dual-clutch.

In conclusion AMG's big stick approach has never been better expressed and it's a shock to see quite how far the C63 has evolved from the saloon and wagon with which it shares a badge. It's a car with a much, much wider range of abilities than its unreconstructed muscle car predecessor and, as a result, plays to a bigger audience. But the core values are very much intact. On a test drive back to back with the M4 or anything else in this price bracket - even a GT-R - the AMG's sheer force of personality is a powerful selling point. Against which the others offer a sharper, more intense adrenaline hit.

Looks like we might have to schedule a re-match.




SPECIFICATION | 2015 MERCEDES-AMG C63 COUPE (W205)
Engine
: 3,982cc twin-turbo V8
Transmission: 7-speed auto with lock-up clutch (MCT), rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 476@5,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 479@1,750-4,500rpm
0-62mph: 4.0sec
Top speed: 155mph/180mph* (limited)
Weight: 1,785kg (EU, with driver)
MPG: 32.8mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 200g/km (209g/km with optional 'sports tyres')
Price: £61,160
*With optional AMG Driver's Package

SPECIFICATION | 2015 MERCEDES-AMG C63 S COUPE (W205)
Engine
: 3,982cc twin-turbo V8
Transmission: 7-speed auto with lock-up clutch (MCT), rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 510@5,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 516@1,750-4,500rpm
0-62mph: 3.9sec
Top speed: 155mph/180mph* (limited)
Weight: 1,800kg (EU, with driver)
MPG: 32.8mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 200g/km (209g/km with optional 'sports tyres')
Price: £68,870
*With optional AMG Driver's Package












Author
Discussion

ES335

Original Poster:

154 posts

166 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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I presume the BMW M4's dampers are attempting to mitigate the effect of overly stiff springs - as opposed to militate against.

Anyway, either way, give me the Merc.

sealtt

3,091 posts

158 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Sounds a great package. These things are getting bloody pricey though!

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Is there any reason Merc won't put a good gearbox in the C63?


Gus265

264 posts

133 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Really wanted to like this car but can't deal with the styling at the back which looks all wrong.

spirocheter

19 posts

176 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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I love the detail of the interior. The rear looks like that rather odd Lexus from a few years back. I think I could overcome this though!

Deerfoot

4,902 posts

184 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Gus265 said:
Really wanted to like this car but can't deal with the styling at the back which looks all wrong.
l know looks are subjective but for me the rear is very well done.

joe1145

198 posts

121 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Wasnt a fan of the new C Class when it was released, looked a bit iffy in my eyes, especially at the back, the C63 saloon improved things a bit, but this Coupe is stunning, would definately pick one of these over the M4

kambites

67,574 posts

221 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Looks much better than I expected. The wider track really seems to help balance the shape up. Certainly more visually cohesive than the M4 where the base models are the other way around.

Interesting to hear that it's better damped than the M4 because that was always the M-division's forte for me.

jet_noise

5,650 posts

182 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Gus265 said:
Really wanted to like this car but can't deal with the styling at the back which looks all wrong.
Nicely understated Gus. It's hideous. Looks like a BMW GT version of a soft roader saloon version of hatchback, what are they thinking?

regards,
Jet

ambuletz

10,735 posts

181 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Dashboard ruined by stty small screen alert!

delta0

2,352 posts

106 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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I've never really been into Mercedes but the coupes they have been making recently look really good. The S-Class looked so good when I saw that and now the C-Class.

Edited by delta0 on Tuesday 10th November 08:52

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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ambuletz said:
Dashboard ruined by stty small screen alert!
Blimey, took that long for someone to mention it!

Dan

kambites

67,574 posts

221 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Dan Trent said:
ambuletz said:
Dashboard ruined by stty small screen alert!
Blimey, took that long for someone to mention it!

Dan
I'm not sure why Mercedes get so much flack for this. Yes, it's not exactly a nicely integrated design but to my eye it looks no worse than BMW's solution which gives the impression they designed it to slide in and out of the dashboard then realised the HVAC ducting was in the way.

gumsie

680 posts

209 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Deerfoot said:
Gus265 said:
Really wanted to like this car but can't deal with the styling at the back which looks all wrong.
l know looks are subjective but for me the rear is very well done.
It’s a fail for me. For a long time Mercedes fan/owner I find almost the whole opf their current range somewhat ugly. Only the CLS and GL work for me.
This car doesn’t look like a coupe version should do from the back at all. Take the C204 and from a direct rear shot you could tell the saloon and coupe were the same car.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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kambites said:
I'm not sure why Mercedes get so much flack for this. Yes, it's not exactly a nicely integrated design but to my eye it looks no worse than BMW's solution which gives the impression they designed it to slide in and out of the dashboard then realised the HVAC ducting was in the way.
Me neither but I wince every time we review a Merc these days as it seems to get folk VERY cross!

Dan

R8VXF

6,788 posts

115 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Is whatever that screen does an optional extra? Only reason I can think of that both BMW and Mercedes would do that to their normally well blended dashboards.

And the best part of 75 grand!? Mental.

kambites

67,574 posts

221 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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R8VXF said:
Is whatever that screen does an optional extra? Only reason I can think of that both BMW and Mercedes would do that to their normally well blended dashboards.
I think they're standard fit - I assume it's just an attempt to bring the screen up into the driver's eye-line. Certainly the integrated sat-nav on our Octavia (which is down in the centre console) is utterly useless because of its location. We use a tom-tom fixed to the windscreen instead. I guess the best solution is probably a HUD but they're probably more expensive than the 25p they appear to have spent on the screen pod. hehe

I quite like Audi's solution, with the option to show the sat-nav directions on the instrument display.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 10th November 09:25

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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kambites said:
I think they're standard fit - I assume it's just an attempt to bring the screen up into the driver's eye-line. Certainly the integrated sat-nav on our Octavia (which is down in the centre console) is utterly useless because of its location. We use a tom-tom fixed to the windscreen instead. I guess the best solution is probably a HUD but they're probably more expensive than the 25p they appear to have spent on the screen pod. hehe

I quite like Audi's solution, with the option to show the sat-nav directions on the instrument display.
Getting it in the driver's eyeline is indeed the official reasoning and makes sense, likewise the fact the fact the 'detached' look means they don't have to have either a) an unsightly hump in the centre of the dashboard or b) a stupidly tall one you couldn't see over unless you had the seat jacked up to the roof. I buy this entirely. I'd venture it also gives them efficiencies going forwards if new technology - like Audi's in-dash nav display - comes on stream for the facelift and they decide to ditch it entirely and have a 'clean' dash. If that happens they're not left with a gaping hole and/or expensive retooling for a new dash.

But I know I'm effectively barking at the moon here and the next five pages of comments will be about the damned screen, not the 510hp V8! wink

Dan

kambites

67,574 posts

221 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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Dan Trent said:
... the next five pages of comments will be about the damned screen, not the 510hp V8! wink
Shows where the modern Pistonheaders' priorities lie, I suppose.

simonbamg

767 posts

123 months

Tuesday 10th November 2015
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love it, think it will look great in the metal, should be pillerless but otherwise ill take one!