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RE: Aston Martin V8 Vantage: PH Heroes

RE: Aston Martin V8 Vantage: PH Heroes

Sunday 24th July 2016

Aston Martin V8 Vantage: PH Heroes

And a hero with a difference - we drive Aston boss Andy Palmer's recently restored pride and joy



The ethics of having a spin in somebody else's car are always complicated. While working in a very junior sales role many years ago, I once had to borrow my boss's car to get to an important sales pitch. This was a couple of days after a performance review that had helpfully detailed all the manifest ways I wasn't really cut out for a career in sales, and I drove the unfortunate Renault like an open audition for Police Camera Action. By the end of the 20-mile journey I had managed to put so much heat into its weedy brakes that I was called out of the meeting by a concerned secretary who told me that my car appeared to be on fire. For what it's worth, I made the sale.

At the other end of the scale, there's today's unique assignment - a chance to have a turn in Andy Palmer's recently acquired pride and joy, an immaculate 1980 Aston Martin V8 Vantage that he has put a six-figure chunk of his own money into. Not only that, but it's also literally just emerged from Aston Martin Works in Newport Pagnell, after a heavy service that has returned it to what's probably better than new condition. Literally, as in it's parked out the back and still wearing courtesy covers over its seats.

Could there be a more Aston pic than this?
Could there be a more Aston pic than this?
Before setting off Palmer admits that this is the first time he's experienced the Vantage from the passenger seat, and that he has barely had a chance to drive it himself since buying it last year. If anything does go wrong, I'll be known forever as the man who crashed the boss's car while he sat next to me.

Is the boss looking?
It doesn't help that the last car in the UK with Palmer's name on the V5 was a NISMO GT-R that he had apparently personally imported while he was still working for Nissan. A car he then agreed to lend to Chris Hoy at the Goodwood Festival of Speed two years ago, with a run that memorably ended in the hay bales at Molecomb.

So you'll probably understand that I set off as if I'm driving Miss Daisy's nervous sister.

Palmer's choice might feel like a carefully crafted PR angle, but he insists that he would have ended up in the same place even if he hadn't become Aston's CEO two years ago.

Still feels very rapid out here
Still feels very rapid out here
"I couldn't afford a DB5 or a DB6, even if I wanted one," he admits, "when I came back to the UK my plan was always to get something nice. The Vantage was always on that list, very close to the top in fact. This is the car I lusted after when I was a teenager. I was really looking for a '79 car, as that was the year I started work. But 1980 is close enough. That was the year I got my licence."

Palmer has certainly worked to achieve his dream car. He dropped out of school at 16 to start working as an apprentice for AP Brakes, then moved onto Austin-Rover and Nissan. On the way he earned two engineering degrees - like Aston's last CEO he's a Dr - and enjoyed a rocket-propelled career trajectory that saw him become Nissan's Chief Planning officer and chairman of Infiniti. Two substantial jobs, and roles that saw him frequently top lists of the most influential Brits in the motor industry, yet something he gave up in 2014 to move to Aston. A company that, throughout its 103-year history, has made fewer cars in total than his previous employer makes in a day-and-a-bit.

He admits that Aston's approach was "a mid-life crisis or a reality check... I thought I'm never going to be the CEO of Nissan or Renault - I thought I'm going to live out what I set my goal to be when I was starting out."

Manual X-Pack? The perfect combo!
Manual X-Pack? The perfect combo!
High carb diet
The Vantage V8 has often been described as the first British supercar, one that offered elegant proof that Newport Pagnell was more than up to keeping pace with the dramatic horsepower arms race of the 70s. When it was introduced in 1977 its official 375hp output made it one of the most powerful cars in the world, with a reworked version of Aston's 5.3-litre V8 breathing through quad carburettors and sending drive to the rear via a standard dog-leg manual gearbox. For perspective, a contemporary 911 Turbo had 300hp and a Lamborghini Countach LP400 had 370hp.

Palmer's car was, like many others, subsequently upgraded to the brawnier 'X-Pack' specification, which boosts power to a claimed 403hp. It's also changed colour at some point; it left Newport Pagnell for the first time in brown but it's now in an equally period-appropriate shade of green. In every other respect it feels factory fresh, with its originality proved by a substantial leather-bound folder announcing that it scored the highest grade in Aston's recently launched Assured Providence programme. It's still got its original radio-cassette player, which Palmer says he plans to listen to some of his old tapes on. "The Stranglers, or maybe the Boomtown Rats."

It doesn't take long for Palmer to grow bored of my excessively gentle progress. It doesn't need any of the excuses that are often required for older cars; the V8 pulls cleanly from low speed and without any hesitancy, despite the fact its four carburettors are sitting in the vee of the big engine. Throttle response is outstanding and the gearbox shifts cleanly, the brakes have solid bite and the power steering possesses a pleasant heft; it's much weightier than the finger-light assistance that was more common at the time.

Palmer bought the Vantage last year
Palmer bought the Vantage last year
Cracking on
It will keep up with traffic on not much more than idle torque, but as we turn onto the dual carriageway that heads from Newport Pagnell towards Olney, Palmer tells me to try a bit harder, and I soon discover that the big engine is equally keen to rev. By 4,000rpm it's starting to feel properly quick, and it pulls progressively harder to the 5,800rpm where peak power arrives, and where I chicken out and lift off. It's still seriously quick, even by 2016 standards; 39 years ago it must have been like being presented with a personal hyperdrive. It's only as I slow down, adrenaline tingling in my fingers, that Palmer admits he narrowly avoided getting caught by a mobile speed camera the first time he drove it.

We stop and swap places, Palmer taking the wheel as we drive the twisty road that heads towards Cranfield. This is very familiar ground for him; it's where the vast Nissan European Technical Centre that Palmer used to be in charge of is and many of the Nissans and Infinitis coming the other way are probably being driven by his former colleagues. Does he ever regret leaving Nissan?

It's easy to see why he's pleased!
It's easy to see why he's pleased!
"Not at all, I'm not really a regret kind of person," he says, "Aston demonstrates the cliche that you have to make six million cars a year to be successful in the motor industry is complete b*****s. Small can be beautiful, it gives you something the others can't have: the ability to know your customers in detail and the agility to make what they tell you they want."

Although today is meant to be about Palmer's old Vantage, I can't resist asking him about the future one. With the current car being replaced next year - and the first appearance of the AMG V8 engine in an Aston - will the famous name live on?

"That decision hasn't been taken yet," Palmer says, "but we'd be mad to walk away from heritage like this, wouldn't we?


ASTON MARTIN V8 VANTAGE
Engine
: 5,340cc, V8
Transmission: ZF five-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 385@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): N/A
0-60mph: 5.3sec
Top speed: 170mph
Weight: 1,990kg
MPG: N/A
Price new: N/A

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Monty Python

Original Poster:

4,018 posts

122 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Great car, and great to see it still wearing it's period registration number.

DoctorX

3,700 posts

92 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Magnificent.cloud9

Leins

6,297 posts

73 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Now that's just superb cool

SturdyHSV

5,824 posts

92 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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If I had the money, I think I would struggle for many, many weeks before I could decide whether to get this era of Vantage, or the next one...



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I think I've got the solution though hehe




Dave Hedgehog

9,792 posts

129 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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i adore these

my friend had an RS Williams 450, made me giggle like a little girl

the bills from aston for it made a vayron look cheap to run ...
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PistonBroker

1,371 posts

151 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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I have a client with one and it's a fantastic looking thing. I've pointed out that I've arranged Any Driver cover for it so I could take it out for a spin, but he's resisted so far!

I like the fact that Palmer's gone for a significant date. I've wanted a black F355 GTS for two decades now. Spotting that the one going under the hammer at Silverstone Classic was first registered on my 18th birthday has made me want it even more!

unrepentant

18,857 posts

181 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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All through my formative years that was my dream car and I think I have every Aston book going that references it. When I was looking to change my E-Type about 14 years ago I went to the Aston Workshop and they pulled around a gorgeous restored V8 Vantage in red with cream leather and we went for a drive. I was actually a little disappointed. I think I expected the performance to blow me away and it just didn't. It felt big and heavy and not how I imagined the supercar of my dreams would feel. So I bought a TVR instead. I still think the Aston is gorgeous and it personifies what a 70's British "muscle" car should be. I want one again!

andyastrasri

164 posts

23 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Favourite Aston of all time, from a cold start they sound magnificent

There used to a red Vantage with the plate 7 EXY that I often used to see and hear around

rampageturke

726 posts

87 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Thats a pretty mustang

JonJon2015

133 posts

22 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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My dream car. Nothing more to add.

dinkel

24,436 posts

183 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Magnificent:














I can look at these cars for hours. If you'd like to see some more in racing guise, just give a shout.

sinbaddio

911 posts

101 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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What an absolute beast. I'm sure I read somewhere, back in the day, that the driver had to be over a certain height (6ft+) to see over the bonnet bulge? Glorious.

Leins

6,297 posts

73 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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dinkel said:
Magnificent:


If you'd like to see some more in racing guise, just give a shout.
Yes please smile

andyastrasri

164 posts

23 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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Gerry Marshall used to peddle a "Marsh Plant" Aston pretty well

unrepentant

18,857 posts

181 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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andyastrasri said:
Gerry Marshall used to peddle a "Marsh Plant" Aston pretty well
And Dave Ellis is a yellow monster.

Raize

1,476 posts

104 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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I didn't realise these weighed two tons.

Edited by Raize on Tuesday 19th July 17:50

AC43

5,616 posts

133 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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dinkel said:
Magnificent:


One of the loaded dads at my kids' nursery school had a fully restored one of them in that colour as his daily. Very very very cool.

williamp

15,749 posts

198 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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70s/ 80s supercars are the best!!


Buster73

2,362 posts

78 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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williamp said:
70s/ 80s supercars are the best!!

No comparison , the one on the right every time .

leedsutd1

767 posts

111 months

Tuesday 19th July 2016
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It does look like a mustang