RE: Porsche 968 Turbo RS: PH Heroes

RE: Porsche 968 Turbo RS: PH Heroes

Saturday 10th September 2016

Porsche 968 Turbo RS: PH Heroes

In this anniversary year we meet the fastest and rarest of all the transaxle Porsches



As you'll have probably gathered Porsche is celebrating 40 years of its transaxle models this year. And having already featured the 944 Turbo as a PH Hero earlier in the year our attention was drawn to a very special example of the breed lurking within the PH classifieds

You may be aware of the 968 Turbo S, a super-limited production evolution of the Clubsport built and sold by Porsche's racing department under the leadership of Jurgen Barth and Gerd Schmid. Described as representing "the new GT class generation" and "destined for both racing activities and public street use" just 14 were built, identifiable by the two small NACA ducts on the bonnet and a bigger, adjustable rear wing. 

It's a 968, but not as we know it
It's a 968, but not as we know it
That's positively commonplace compared with what we have here, the Turbo RS spawned by the S quite simply the most extreme expression of the transaxle lineage ever sold. Just four were built by Porsche, this being the only road-legal one and also the fastest by some margin. And after spending most of its life in South Africa it's now for sale in North Yorkshire at a figure officially listed as POA but able to stand comparison with some of the rarest and most desirable 911 variants in the market. 

Suffice it to say it's enough to make the astonishing £45K asked for the 944 Turbo we featured as our Hero and the ever hardening prices for 968 Clubsports seem trivial. Here's why it deserves to be held in such esteem...

Rare groove
Rarity will always arouse the attention of the collectors and add a zero or two to the price, but the Turbo RS has substance to back that up too. Rumours persist it was quietly canned when found to be quicker than contemporary 964 3.8 RSRs. This would certainly fit with the perception that Porsche was constantly having to manage the 'problem' of its junior transaxle cars being potentially quicker and easier to exploit than its rear-engined icon. There may be some truth in that but the reality would seem to be more people wanted to race 911s than they did 968s, no matter how much more effective the latter might prove to be. 

Not many concessions to road use in here!
Not many concessions to road use in here!
On paper it's not hard to see how a 968 Turbo S, let alone this RS, might be capable of embarrassing even a 911 3.8 RSR. The 305hp of the Turbo S was a match for the 3.8's naturally-aspirated flat-six, and with 369lb ft of torque from just 3,000rpm it had the mid-range muscle to fully exploit the favourable weight distribution of the transaxle layout. 

For the Turbo S Porsche ditched the four-valve head used on the naturally-aspirated 968 Clubsport and instead fitted a two-valve one based on that used in the 944. Augmented by a single KKK compressor boosting at 1bar the oversquare 3.0-litre four-cylinder drove through a conventional six-speed manual with longer ratios and an aggressive limited-slip differential with a 75 per cent locking ratio on both power and overrun. Wheels and brakes came from the 911 Turbo S, ABS and power steering retained to help gentlemen drivers stay the course in endurance racing. 

Ready for action
Designed in mind of the ADAC GT Cup the RS took things further still, coming as standard with a fully welded-in roll cage, plumbed in fire extinguisher system, 43-litre safety tank and six-point harnesses. Spring and damper rates were revised again and the wheels went up from 8J and 10J 18-inch items to 9.5J and 11J ones to contain an increase in power to a restricted 337hp. One car raced at Le Mans in 1994 but was forced to retire, the two others built for the ADAC GT series also seeing track action but never quite having the chance to deliver on the expectation suggested by the spec.

As much power as a 964 RSR before the mods...
As much power as a 964 RSR before the mods...
The fourth car and one you see here is one of the two originally converted from S spec, the only one built to be road legal and also the most powerful by far. Numbers vary but it's safe to assume this car is packing well over 400hp, modifications requested by the original South African buyer including a manually operated water spray to cool the intercooler, additional bonnet venting, a larger rear wing and a wind deflector to shield the wipers as well as improve airflow over the front of the car. Interestingly these and other aero parts were originally developed in collaboration with Porsche tuner TechArt before being formally homologated for street use. In a corner of Gmund's office is a pile of bubble-wrapped additional aero parts to be sold with the car and supplied to the original owner to adjust downforce according to requirements. To reduce weight further the pop-up lights were also removed (and kept) with the driving lamps converted into proper headlights. Further evidence, were it required, that this is a racing car first and road car second.  

Not that you're in any doubt about that when you look around it in detail. It's got two seats but the passenger footwell is occupied by the boxes for the Motronic ECUs and opening the glovebox simply reveals the cross-brace from the roll cage rather than space to stash your Haribo. A bare gear knob - apparently from a 962 - sprouts from the centre tunnel and column stalk appropriated for manual overboost control and switch on the dash for the intercooler spray hint at the improvised, one-off nature of the build. It's all beautifully done though, fit and finish above average for a race car and indicative of the thoroughness Porsche's motorsport department puts into all its cars. 

A rare and exciting old Porsche that isn't a 911?!
A rare and exciting old Porsche that isn't a 911?!
Make some noise
Given the nature of the car experience of it in action is limited to standing roadside to bag a few hurried snaps on a lane close to Gmund's showroom. And however effective a tool it might be, the uncultured blare it makes from its totally unsilenced exhaust perhaps offers a sense of why well-heeled privateers might have stuck with their RSRs. The sound is raw, brutal and pure race car, with no thought to pleasing harmonics. It's undeniably impressive though, the four-cylinder bark overlaid with a whistle of boost and crackle of overrun as the car runs to and fro for the camera. It's certainly appropriate to the car's intent too; this is a 968 built to do one thing and one thing only. 

It carries it off with some style though. All the transaxle Porsches carry a lingering sense of unfulfilled promise forever in the shadow of the 911. But in this RS you get just a taste of the potential Barth and his colleagues knew was there but were never able to fully exploit. There's more than a hint of mischief about it too - the final flicked vees from a downtrodden subordinate after years of toeing the line to its elders and supposedly betters. 

And the reflected glory of this rare, valuable and thrillingly raucous transaxle Porsche has the potential to finally drag its contemporaries out of the shadows and permit them to stand shoulder to shoulder with their rear-engined equivalents. That would be a legacy to celebrate and a fitting conclusion to this anniversary year.

Porsche 968 Turbo RS engine sound


PORSCHE 968 TURBO RS
Engine
: 2,990cc 4-cyl turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 337@5,600rpm*
Torque (lb ft): 369@3,000rpm*
0-62mph: < 5.0sec*
Top speed: c. 175mph*
Weight: 1,350kg* (DIN, not including driver)
On sale: 1993
Price new: Lots
Price now: Even more
*Officially published outputs for standard 968 Turbo RS

Thanks to Gmund cars for supplying the car and assistance with this feature

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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zeb

Original Poster:

2,758 posts

146 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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well Andrew will have saved a fortune in advertising

Front cover of p & 911 world and now a slot on PH !

every credit to him for bringing it over here though

wouldnt half mind taking that for a spin ......hehe

Pie-n-Peys

126 posts

46 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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3 litre engine with just 4 cylinders seems fairly big!

Wizardskills

238 posts

95 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Pie-n-Peys said:
3 litre engine with just 4 cylinders seems fairly big!
Works very well in my 944 S2 smile

Nanook

30,687 posts

115 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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That's a very cool car.


Pie-n-Peys said:
3 litre engine with just 4 cylinders seems fairly big!
I believe (I'm sure I'll be corrected now) that it's the largest production 4 cylinder petrol engine ever put in a car.


s m

16,213 posts

131 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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It would be a car I'd like to own if I had a fair few million. For smaller pockets at least there's the 944 Turbo
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J4CKO

24,025 posts

128 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Is it me or just doesnt sound that great ? it reminds me of that farty noise Morris minors do with a bit of a growly four pot turbo thrown in.

Am sure its not a bad car, pretty fantastic even but I am guessing the price is suitably ridiculous for a 968 with a half 944 Turbo Half 968/S2 engine.






MDMA .

3,881 posts

29 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Nanook said:
I believe (I'm sure I'll be corrected now) that it's the largest production 4 cylinder petrol engine ever put in a car.
Fiat Tipo 55 had a 9L engine smile

Dan Trent

1,815 posts

96 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Blitzen Benz was a 21-litre four! Not sure if it counts as a production car to be fair and I'm sure someone will come along and trump that but it's the biggest I've ever heard of. A five and a bit litre cylinder chucks out quite a bit of smoke/fire/oil out a stub exhaust too, as a bloke stood next to it at Brooklands found out to his cost when I saw it run. They did warn him to stand clear.......

Dan

Nanook

30,687 posts

115 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Dan Trent said:
Blitzen Benz was a 21-litre four! Not sure if it counts as a production car to be fair and I'm sure someone will come along and trump that but it's the biggest I've ever heard of. A five and a bit litre cylinder chucks out quite a bit of smoke/fire/oil out a stub exhaust too, as a bloke stood next to it at Brooklands found out to his cost when I saw it run. They did warn him to stand clear.......

Dan
Never heard of that before now, also veeerrryy cool!

It ran on petrol yeah?

That's given my an idea for a thread...

chrislloyd81

61 posts

24 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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What would plod make of those headlights? Is that yellow vinyl?

NJH

2,798 posts

137 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Not a problem, get the car MoT'ed as day time running only. I did this with my 944 S2 race car a few years back, the things one needs that are usually missing on race cars is: handbrake, windscreen wash/wipe and heater, horn, turn indicators, pretty much all mine had which is only a few Kg different to its pure MSA race state. Stuff like running lights on the front and rear fogs are all required to pass race scrutineering anyway (rear fogs high up on 944/968 = bad weather rear warning light). Use rally car stuff for the heater and washer bottle if wanting to save weight and use MB van blade type windscreen washers that attach on to the wipers (no need to drill bonnet) which are far more effective than any car wash wipe jets anyways.

Car looks like a proper collector find but sadly the reason why the 968 turbo cars are all so rare is a lack of interest in them when new. This one though mega and thanks PH for highlighting these cars.

Master Bean

922 posts

48 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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Dan Trent said:
Blitzen Benz was a 21-litre four! Not sure if it counts as a production car to be fair and I'm sure someone will come along and trump that but it's the biggest I've ever heard of. A five and a bit litre cylinder chucks out quite a bit of smoke/fire/oil out a stub exhaust too, as a bloke stood next to it at Brooklands found out to his cost when I saw it run. They did warn him to stand clear.......

Dan
The 1911 Fiat S76 was a 28 litre 4 banger.

markcoznottz

4,310 posts

152 months

Wednesday 7th September 2016
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14. Wow not even 'production' in any real sense. I bet a few will be in private collections and have never moved.

americancrx

304 posts

145 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Nope - a Bentley 4 1/2 Litre is a four-cylinder too.

Braintax

297 posts

115 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Great bit of kit

Debaser

3,248 posts

189 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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I'd love to have a go in that. If only I was richer...

blade7

7,724 posts

144 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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Debaser said:
I'd love to have a go in that. If only I was richer...
£3-400k richer, maybe more...

fastgerman

1,473 posts

123 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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blade7 said:
Debaser said:
I'd love to have a go in that. If only I was richer...
£3-400k richer, maybe more...
The thing I don't quite understand with Porsche vs Ferrari prices is that with Porsche, you can create a 964 RS or 968 Turbo with genuine off the shelf parts for a fraction of the chassis numbered cars. With Ferrari, I don't believe you can so easily.

Example - 968 Turbo can be a 968 CS for £20k + the Speedline wheels, rear wing and turbo parts equating to another £20k. So an example with genuine Porsche parts is 10% of the value of an original chassis number car. Similar story with a 964 RS etc. Try turning a Ferrari 308 into a 288 GTO

J4CKO

24,025 posts

128 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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fastgerman said:
blade7 said:
Debaser said:
I'd love to have a go in that. If only I was richer...
£3-400k richer, maybe more...
The thing I don't quite understand with Porsche vs Ferrari prices is that with Porsche, you can create a 964 RS or 968 Turbo with genuine off the shelf parts for a fraction of the chassis numbered cars. With Ferrari, I don't believe you can so easily.

Example - 968 Turbo can be a 968 CS for £20k + the Speedline wheels, rear wing and turbo parts equating to another £20k. So an example with genuine Porsche parts is 10% of the value of an original chassis number car. Similar story with a 964 RS etc. Try turning a Ferrari 308 into a 288 GTO
Yeah, but there are many people that can replicate the Mona Lisa, but it wont be priceless.

I totally get you, for a mere mortal with a 50 grand budget they can recreate this car and probably improve on it with more modern parts but that set of parts was not signed off and sold by Porsche in 1990 something.

there is kudos and satisfaction in owning the real deal for some, even though in reality its just a parts bin special really.

Then this gets transcended, it becomes a currency almost in its own right, if you are worth a billion its small change, another half a million quid isnt really very interesting in that scenario but owning rare items is, then, sell it on when you get bored of it (if you have ever actually set eyes on it let alone driven it) and make a profit on it.

Porsche arent making any more of these, they have a big name, so rare editions multiply the value, rare comics and baseball cards make hundreds of thousands which seems weirder to me but it all depends where you are comign from what seems a good idea or deal.

Quickmoose

3,682 posts

51 months

Thursday 8th September 2016
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All that power, visual muscle, performance

and just one unadorned exhaust pipe.


Gorgeous.