RE: Kia Stinger GT - official!

RE: Kia Stinger GT - official!

Saturday 14th January 2017

Kia Stinger GT - official!

Kia goes after the Germans with new 365hp, RWD saloon - full details here



If you were to conjure up a template for a very good modern sports saloon, it might sound a little like the new Kia Stinger: design by a guy who was at Audi, chassis by a guy who was at BMW, power by twin-turbo V6 and dynamic testing by, er, the Nurburgring. Without wishing to get too ahead of ourselves, it's not a bad combination of attributes.


Described as a "dream car for us" by Kia's senior management, the Stinger is the production realisation of an idea first mooted back in 2011 with the GT concept. As well as being the first rear-wheel drive Kia, it's also the first car from the company to come with selectable drive modes and adjustable adaptive damping.

More of those in a sec. First to the design, said to exude "a muscular confidence". A fastback more than a traditional three-box saloon, the Stinger sits in between rivals like a 4 Series and 6 Series Gran Coupe at 4,831mm long. The wheelbase is 2,906mm and the Stinger measures 1,869mm across. As for the look, Kia says "the stance and visual balance are designed to lend the car an air of elegance and athleticism, rather than boy racer aggression." While the shark nose is a familiar Kia trait now, the cab-back silhouette and broad rear haunches certainly aren't. And there are four exhausts! What do you reckon? Don't forget America is likely to be the biggest market...


If you have been following Kia's preamble to the Stinger, you will know it has been extensively tested on the Nordschleife. You will probably also know that Albert Biermann has been with Kia since December 2014, having left BMW soon after finishing the current M3. Notable chassis highlights include 'Dynamic Stability Damping Control', which is adaptive but with parameters that can be adjusted by the driver. There are five drive modes for the Stinger too: Personal, Eco, Sport, Comfort and Smart. Steering is by - deep breath - variable ratio Rack-mounted Motor Driven Power Steering (R-MDPS), an electric power steering system that promises "razor-sharp feedback" by mounting the electric motor directly onto the rack. The Macpherson front and multi-link rear suspension has also been set up with the f-word in mind, this time "to provide optimal feedback". And no, a 'ring lap time hasn't been mentioned yet.


Under the bonnet the Stinger will be offered with two engines, a 2.0-litre 255hp four-cylinder turbo (standard Stinger) and a 365hp 3.3-litre twin-turbo V6 (Stinger GT). In the UK we will take only the V6 with rear-wheel drive (all-wheel drive will be offered in certain markets), which again sounds promising. With 376lb ft too, Kia claims 0-62mph in 5.1 seconds and 167mph. The gearbox is Kia's own eight-speed auto, with a limited-slip diff out back to get that power down. A limited-slip diff. In a Kia. Behind those handsome 19-inch wheels sit vented Brembo discs with four-piston calipers at the front. And if you look really closely, you'll see the tyres are Continentals, although Kia will only say at the moment that they are "ultra high-performance".

As yet there are no pictures of the Stinger's interior, though we're promised a "confident dashboard", a "feeling of cocooned intimacy" and "aeronautically inspired spoked circular vents". That longish wheelbase should ensure plenty of space, while the driver gets a TFT screen between the dials to provide info like oil temperature, lap times and g-forces. Or something dull like the trip computer.


Expect too plenty of leather and the latest in driver assist tech; indeed there are so many features on the latter that Kia requires another acronym: Multiple Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS).

It would appear there's plenty to be encouraged by with Kia's first sports saloon then. We'll hope to bring you more from Detroit soon, but there shouldn't be long to wait for the Stinger; sales will begin later this year, with prices to follow nearer the time.

 

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axel1990chp

Original Poster:

599 posts

104 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Intriguing!

See if it keeps with a KIA price tag

DuraAce

4,240 posts

161 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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axel1990chp said:
Intriguing!

See if it keeps with a KIA price tag
Surely it'll be £40k+ same as some of the current Sorrento models. Madness to me.

Might be interested in a year old one at £10k though!

stuckmojo

2,980 posts

189 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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I like it!

It has almost all the right components, it only misses the brand value.


Good move!

Niffty951

2,333 posts

229 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Other great potential Alfa competitor. No manual option. It doesn't even get a mention in tbe article anymore. Sad times.

XMT

3,801 posts

148 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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DuraAce said:
axel1990chp said:
Intriguing!

See if it keeps with a KIA price tag
Surely it'll be £40k+ same as some of the current Sorrento models. Madness to me.

Might be interested in a year old one at £10k though!
Never understand why people come out with crap like this. If you can find me a sorento KX-4 at a year old for 10k, ill have 3.


Edited by XMT on Monday 9th January 08:37

dom1102

96 posts

211 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Anyone else seeing Audi A7?

rtz62

3,370 posts

156 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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The body shape is a refreshing move away from the Audi and BMW, which spend too much time like lesser/greater models within their model ranges, especially like the rear 3/4.
Gripes? Well, they might have people who 'previously did' with Audi and BMW, but they employed a child to propose a suitable name, and to my mind there is far too much chrome/silver highlighting that draws your eye away from the body.
I'd have expected a BMW-like 'shadow chrome' effect, if only to add interest / gravitas?
I must say though, if I was in the market for something like this I'd be hitting the mainstream manufacturers showrooms as I somehow don't see the residuals of this being up to those of its Germanic competitors...

Hitch

6,107 posts

195 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Good for Kia for putting this out. They're perceived much better in other (less German obsessed) markets so this is another good way to keep pushing up the price people ate prepared to pay for their products. Like the Sorrento I don't think it we'll see many around.

GiveItSomeWellie

3,008 posts

197 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Like it! The rear quarter panel is enormous though eek

GiveItSomeWellie

3,008 posts

197 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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dom1102 said:
Anyone else seeing Audi A7?
I'm seeing more Panamera in the overall shape

kambites

67,583 posts

222 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Is it a saloon or a hatchback?

I quite like the styling; except for the headlights and grill which remind me uncomfortably of the pre-facelift 1-series.

I've been very impressed with the recent Kias I've driven/fiddled with. They seem to be modelling themselves more after the Japanese than the Germans in their approach to things, which isn't a bad thing, IMO. I'd love to see them do a smaller but similarly shaped car based on the same platform.

Edited by kambites on Monday 9th January 08:08

C7 JFW

1,205 posts

220 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Let's just hope it shares only the badge with the rest of the products Kia sell.

Veeayt

3,139 posts

206 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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How ugly is that thing? And what's sharky about its nose is above me.

Dog Star

16,143 posts

169 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, but I think that is a seriously good looking car.


PunterCam

1,073 posts

196 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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dom1102 said:
Anyone else seeing Audi A7?
I'm certainly seeing heap of stea

BFleming

3,609 posts

144 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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DuraAce said:
Might be interested in a year old one at £10k though!
I think those days are gone. You can have a 5 year old Optima for £8k, which is about 35% of its original purchase price. So you might be waiting a while for your £10k bargain!

kambites

67,583 posts

222 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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BFleming said:
DuraAce said:
Might be interested in a year old one at £10k though!
I think those days are gone. You can have a 5 year old Optima for £8k, which is about 35% of its original purchase price. So you might be waiting a while for your £10k bargain!
Whilst Kia have pretty strong residuals these days, presumably because you can buy a five year-old one which still has the manufacturers warranty for a useful period of time, I'm not convinced that a £40k+ car with a Kia badge on it will hold its value in the UK; as a nation we're just too obsessed by the German brands.

alpha channel

1,387 posts

163 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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I rather like that, the only downers as far as I'm concerned is -
- no manual option (de rigure these days apparently).
- the damned Nurburgring poking its snout in, just because it can go fast around there doesn't mean it's any good in the real world.
- too many options for suspension (it seems that car companies can't design and set up suspension correctly without turning to electrics to sort out the shortcomings).
- and that it's a saloon, though a good looking one (the rear 3/4 panel puts me in mind of the current XJ), I wonder what a coupe would look like though (which is what goes through my mind when I hear GT)?

Mind you that lot can be levelled at virtually any car company these days though.

Vitorio

4,296 posts

144 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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stuckmojo said:
I like it!

It has almost all the right components, it only misses the brand value.


Good move!
And imho they are getting there, the ex MIL has a Rio, gone are the days of Kias being seriously down on feel and quality on european competitors. The brand feel will get there in time.

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Whilst the RWD V6 is very 'PH', I'd have thought the AWD 255bhp I4 would have been a much better seller in the UK.

Nice design though; I'd have an Optima if they offered it with a decent engine.