RE: Dacia Duster: PH Fleet

RE: Dacia Duster: PH Fleet

Thursday 9th March 2017

Dacia Duster: PH Fleet

A month and more miles in, what is life really like with the mighty Duster?



When I wrote the Duster introduction article, I don't mind admitting that it was with some trepidation that I described it as our guilty pleasure. As it turns out, I need not have worried! The mighty Duster was welcomed with open arms by the community; we even had a request for the car to make an appearance at a Sunday Service, and that's never happened with any of our fleet cars before. The article also triggered an impressive amount of discussion, which was more or less universal in its positivity.

Big sticker means at least 10hp, right?
Big sticker means at least 10hp, right?
The main themes being debated in the forums were predictably around the value for money and optimum 'bang for your buck' specification, but also that PHers seem to love the idea of a genuinely capable little off-roader that is ready for anything. Well, as I alluded to last month, we also loved the idea of being able to conquer some challenging terrain, which is why we took the car on an off-road excursion on its very first day in our care.

Some of you may have seen the recent G-Wagen vs Defender article and video that the guys produced, taking in some of the beautiful green lanes in Yorkshire. If you watch that video carefully enough you might just catch a glimpse of photographer Sim and I scampering around in the background, laughing our heads off in a very muddy Duster. That's right, while the rest of the guys were tooling around in their great big expensive 4x4s, we were showing them how it is done in a humble little Dacia with less than 500 miles on the clock. And guess what? It was absolutely amazing fun.

We ordered our Duster with the Nissan-developed 4x4 system which, though adding a small amount of cost and a little bit of weight, does mean that the car is primed and ready for any impromptu off-roading expeditions that daily life throws in its path. The car also came with mud and snow tyres fitted to the snazzy diamond-cut 'Tyrol' alloy wheels as standard, which remain heavily road biased but give the car some genuine ability when combined with the transmission's 4WD 'lock' mode. The only thing the car did need before we went off the beaten track was a slight, er, adjustment to its styling...

Chrome has gone and probably won't return
Chrome has gone and probably won't return
Some of you may remember that I mentioned getting a bit carried away with the box ticking on the order form. Well, when the car turned up, the huge chrome bull bar and side steps stood out very awkwardly. Any off-roading shenanigans would have seen us littering the beautiful moors with chrome paraphernalia in minutes, so I set to them with the spanners before we set off. I'm not sure they'll be getting reattached as the car looks better without them - it probably weighs a fair bit less too!

And so it was that I found myself leading out a fairly unusual off-road convoy. I'm not sure if it was down to the Duster's light weight, my over enthusiasm or the simple fact that they are not as mighty, but more often than not we ended up waiting ages for the G-Wagen and Defender to catch up. Seriously. Not bad going when you consider that the optional extras alone on either of the other cars cost several times more than the entire Duster. By the end of the day the Duster had successfully conquered everything we asked it to, it had secured a place in our affections and it had been named the expedition's Man of the Match. Before the day was out we decided that we needed to get a date in the diary to take it to a proper off road pay-and-play day.

The only evidence of its ordeal as I headed back home was a thick blanket of mud, but even that just makes it look a bit cooler, a fact backed up by the knowing nod I got from the chap in the petrol station on the A1. The car genuinely feels like it could do that sort of thing day in and day out, which is probably why they're so popular in countries with less well groomed road surfaces.

How do I get on the circuit from here?
How do I get on the circuit from here?
Since then, it has been business as usual for the car, easily taking care of day to day life and racking up some miles. It has surprised me just how many people have asked questions like "Has it broken down yet?" or "Is it really terrible?" since the car has arrived. The simple answer to either of these questions is no. It hasn't missed a beat so far, and everyone who has used it has fallen for its no nonsense charm.

However, the question on the tip of everyone's tongue right now is surely "What is this £18,980 4x4 SUV like on a track day?". To be honest, we feel a little embarrassed that we haven't answered that question yet. It is rather remiss of us. More on that next time.


FACT SHEET
Car
: 2016 Dacia Duster Prestige TCe 125 4x4
On fleet since: January 2017
Mileage: 1,545
List price new: £15,795 (As tested £18,980 comprising Metallic paint for £495, European mapping for £90, Aspira leather upholstery for £500, protection pack for £495, touring pack for £565, action pack for £755 and window pack for £285) 
Last month at a glance: Excelling on the off-road escapade

Previous reports:
Duster debut!

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Arese1973

Original Poster:

51 posts

87 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Dacia, the car made out of old Renault bits in Romania. It might be just me but £18,980 seems pretty steep for a supposedly 'value' car brand.

Pat H

8,056 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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I thought these were less than ten grand for the 2WD petrol version?

Anyway, I like them.

Especially in white, with steel wheels and no radio.

I think that a three year old poverty spec one would be a good long term prospect.

great_kahn

83 posts

87 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Whoever spends £19k on this deserves it.

annodomini2

6,867 posts

252 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Arese1973 said:
Dacia, the car made out of old Renault bits in Romania. It might be just me but £18,980 seems pretty steep for a supposedly 'value' car brand.
This is the top end one with every option fitted.

Little play on the configurator, you can have a boggo spec petrol 4x4 (in white only) for £11495 which is ok TBH.

Ok no leccy windows or AC or Sat nav, but who cares it should do what it says on the tin.

ian2144

1,665 posts

223 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Pat H said:
I thought these were less than ten grand for the 2WD petrol version?

Anyway, I like them.

Especially in white, with steel wheels and no radio.

I think that a three year old poverty spec one would be a good long term prospect.
Base model Duster in 2WD is about £9500

croyde

22,966 posts

231 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Now seeing 2013s around the 6 grand mark.

With my work disappearing and now the chancellor having a dig at us self employed types the Mustang maybe going. I'll be very tempted to replace it with a Duster.

Pat H

8,056 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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annodomini2 said:
...no leccy windows or AC or Sat nav...
There's something very appealing about that.

Modern cars are far too complicated.

I quite like PAS and a brake servo. The rest you can keep.

smile

Toaster Pilot

14,621 posts

159 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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annodomini2 said:
Arese1973 said:
Dacia, the car made out of old Renault bits in Romania. It might be just me but £18,980 seems pretty steep for a supposedly 'value' car brand.
This is the top end one with every option fitted.

Little play on the configurator, you can have a boggo spec petrol 4x4 (in white only) for £11495 which is ok TBH.

Ok no leccy windows or AC or Sat nav, but who cares it should do what it says on the tin.
Does have front electric windows

I'm taking delivery of my £9495 2WD base model Duster tomorrow smile

rtz62

3,371 posts

156 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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There's an 80+yr ls lady lives in a house at the end of a long, muddy lane next to me.
A couple of years ago she got stuck on the lane in her Clio when it snowed.
So 80+yr old dear buys a 4x4 Duster.
Base model (Acccess?) 4x4 petrol, steel wheels and all.
Hey pesto (as Peppa Pig says); it's not snowed since.
Brilliant!

jhonn

1,567 posts

150 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Article quote - 'It has surprised me just how many people have asked questions like "Has it broken down yet?" Unquote

Really? Are so many people that ignorant that they expect a modern new car (any new car) to break down in the first month of ownership?

I wouldn't blame them for asking that if it was 4, 5 years old mind. wink

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Good news!!

boyse7en

6,738 posts

166 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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jhonn said:
Article quote - 'It has surprised me just how many people have asked questions like "Has it broken down yet?" Unquote

Really? Are so many people that ignorant that they expect a modern new car (any new car) to break down in the first month of ownership?

I wouldn't blame them for asking that if it was 4, 5 years old mind. wink
Ignorant? My sister-in-law's brand-new Discovery was back with the dealer twice in the first month with problems! It had it's entire sat-nav/infotainment unit replaced at vast expense a few weeks later.

croyde

22,966 posts

231 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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My new Discovery was back at the dealers many times in the first few months. Mainly software updates and sensor problems.

If I buy a Duster it will be the base model. I liked it in the old days when you fitted your own radio and speakers. Plus what's wrong with window winders.

My latest car has all the bells and whistles of the 21st century yet I barely use them now and dread what they will cost to fix in a few years time..

jhonn

1,567 posts

150 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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^^^ Not doubting the examples of the Land Rovers having issues, they are highly complex and electronics dependent after all. There is a difference (in my mind anyway) between a vehicle having annoying glitches, and being 'broken down'.

I still maintain it is odd that people would make a point of asking that - I'm well aware of Land Rover's reputation, but it wouldn't cross my mind to ask the owner of a new one if had broken down yet.

Yidwann

1,872 posts

211 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Ha, I actually like the look of that with its bars and rails.... the colour however! But when the Golf Estate dies, it might be an option. As someone posted earlier, going back to the old days of putting your own stereo in and the likes would be fun, and probably much better than most premium sound systems put into luxury car brands this days!

Raramuri

91 posts

153 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Not a Duster, but I've had a Sandero Stepway diesel for 3.5 years and 55k miles. In that time it has been faultless.

It's a very basic thing, but it does what it was intended to do very well. It's no surprise that the number of them I see on the road is steadily increasing.

Mine is mainly used for commuting, (I did 30k in my first year of ownership, and currently doing 300miles per week), for which it is both comfortable and reliable and it costs buttons to run. Other than servicing and fuel, I have not had to spend anything on it (although I am about to replace the front discs/pads).

£8995 new - I'll likely keep it until something is economically unviable to repair, at which point I expect it will owe me nothing. If it was written off tomorrow, I'd buy another Dacia in a heartbeat to replace it. I wouldn't spend £18+k on one as that misses the point of them for me, although I understand the PH fleet model is an uber-demonstrator to show the car buying public all that is available.

Edited by Raramuri on Thursday 9th March 16:18


Edited by Raramuri on Thursday 9th March 16:19

405dogvan

5,328 posts

266 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Arese1973 said:
Dacia, the car made out of old Renault bits in Romania. It might be just me but £18,980 seems pretty steep for a supposedly 'value' car brand.
Technically you can get TWO Dusters for that money - tho they'll be petrol 4x2s which isn't ideal?

Adding options to a car like this is like putting antlers on a greyhound but it's almost £2K for 4x4 and another £2Kish for the diesel which eats into the 'value' part of this a bit quickly for my tastes.

To it's credit, the ONLY option on a base car is parking sensors ;0

Toaster Pilot

14,621 posts

159 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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405dogvan said:
Technically you can get TWO Dusters for that money - tho they'll be petrol 4x2s which isn't ideal?

Adding options to a car like this is like putting antlers on a greyhound but it's almost £2K for 4x4 and another £2Kish for the diesel which eats into the 'value' part of this a bit quickly for my tastes.

To it's credit, the ONLY option on a base car is parking sensors ;0
You can get any of the accessory packs too - the PH fleet car seems to have most of them for reference

Alex_225

6,264 posts

202 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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They've certainly crept up in price but then so has the options list!

My little girls mum has had a Duster from new. It's a 1.5dci, 4WD and she added the black protective trim on top of the Laureate spec. Think that was around £15k which for a brand new car of it's size with genuine 4 wheel drive, seems like a good price.

Like many new cars though that start at X amount, tick enough boxes and they creep up into the next price range.

I'm actually rather fond of the Duster, it looks pretty cool, it's well put together and compared to many SUV isn't pretentious!

J4CKO

41,628 posts

201 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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boyse7en said:
jhonn said:
Article quote - 'It has surprised me just how many people have asked questions like "Has it broken down yet?" Unquote

Really? Are so many people that ignorant that they expect a modern new car (any new car) to break down in the first month of ownership?

I wouldn't blame them for asking that if it was 4, 5 years old mind. wink
Ignorant? My sister-in-law's brand-new Discovery was back with the dealer twice in the first month with problems! It had it's entire sat-nav/infotainment unit replaced at vast expense a few weeks later.
I bet these are more reliable, being that much simpler and not at the cutting edge, putting it politely.