RE: Shed Of The Week: Citroen Saxo VTR

RE: Shed Of The Week: Citroen Saxo VTR

Friday 10th March 2017

Shed Of The Week: Citroen Saxo VTR

A sprightly Saxo Shed that has survived the 2000s largely unmolested!



We've had a few Saxo VTRs in this column over the years. Given the type of driving these little fellas can be subjected to, it's a remarkable testament to their doggedness that smart-looking ones like this one still keep popping up.


The VTR's robust 8-valve 1.6 motor delivers horsepower in the high-90s, which is plenty for a circa 900kg car, and there's enough torque for lazy urban chuntering. Standard, the VTR is good for a near-eight-second 0-60 time and a near-120mph top end (thanks to highish gearing). It's not as lively as a 16-valve VTS, but clean examples of those are not easy to find below £1,000.

Besides, in isolation the VTR has a perfectly decent spring in its step on the twisties. Fast steering and a tied-down body puts lift-off oversteer at your beck and call, presuming two things: one, your feet fit in the footwell, and two, your chassis componentry is in good order.

Lowering Saxos can play merry hell with their driveshafts and suspension bushes, so it's good to see this one standing nice and tall. To some, it may look almost too tall, but that could well be an illusion caused by low-profile tyres on aftermarket TSW alloys. Can't tell if they're 14s or 15s. The original fitment was 14, which makes the tyres dirt cheap, but 15s are hardly expensive these days.


Somebody has made a bit of an effort to keep this Saxo nice and original, up to and including the binning last year of the dreaded 'incorrect colour direction indicators'. Other than that, the MOT history is pretty much entirely down to the replacement of consumable items, which in a Saxo's case includes brake discs, CV joints and gaiters, and most of the arms, ball joints and other bits involved in the front suspension. Brake servos, wheel bearings, seat sliders and power steering appear on the list of weak points, as do ECUs, a fault often triggered by duff Sagem coil packs. Replacements by Bougicord are well rated.

There's no mention on the history of any attention ever being lavished on the fabled Saxo rear axle, which is interesting if not unique. A wobbly one will give you a degree of four-wheel steering that was never part of the Saxo designer's original plan. You shouldn't need to pay more than £250 for a nice refurbed item off tintanet. While you're under there fitting it, best not to look up unless the sight of boot and inner-arch rust appeals to you - though again, remarkably, there is no mention of rot anywhere on this car's MOT history.


Slightly annoyingly, our Shed has the notoriously leak-prone Saxo sunroof, but as Mrs Shed famously said to Shed on the evening of their wedding nuptials, into every life a little rain must fall. Oh dear.

If you decide to go down the route of prepping it for track days, which would be an entirely sensible plan, don't forget to update the brakes and don't settle for anything less than a good quality roll-cage. Bung on a new decat exhaust, filter and manifold and this game little chap will divvy up all the cheap fun you could want.

The creaky old zorst and manifold will probably be on the way out anyway. If the pipe is squeaking, you can sometimes effect a cure with new spring clamps, but even if that doesn't work it won't really matter as the squeaking from the seats will most likely drown it out.

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x19dude

Original Poster:

22 posts

138 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Great shed this week and unmolested as well - I've got its cousin a 106 gti and they are fantastic fun around the back roads. These are getting very rare in non molested form.

shortar53

548 posts

274 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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mmm... Icelandic Grey. Beautiful colour in the flesh
Ran a 52 plate VTR for 7/8 years.
only bills were brake pads/discs, tyres and a driveshaft.

Great fun to chuck about, more than "fast enough" in most real world circumstances. Decent tyres a must

J4CKO

41,676 posts

201 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Wouldn't mind something like this instead of our C1 Spare/learner/shopping car, the C1 is ok but not enough power to be properly fun, I think 90 plus bhp would probably do the trick.

probably chalk

672 posts

193 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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I can't think of anything to say.

Adz The Rat

14,154 posts

210 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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I bought one of these about 5 years ago thinking it would be some cheap fun, it was until it just started falling apart round me haha

GranCab

2,902 posts

147 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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" DIRECT PART EXCHANGE TRADE CLEARANCE,TEST DRIVE WELCOME ALL MAJOR CARDS EXCEPTED., "

..... does this mean cash only or is the vendor a bit thick ... ?

JimmyConwayNW

3,065 posts

126 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Had one as my first car after I stopped using my mums clio.

Had the key pad pin immobiliser P reg silver car.

Lovely handling little car but not a week went by without something falling off and breaking on it.

Dion20vt

252 posts

163 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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I'd say it has been molested at some time... judging by the cut out in the rear bumper for a dual massive zorst... Yo!

danllama

5,728 posts

143 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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It's alright for a 17 year old but a bit st, all things considered.

Yet i'd still like to smash it down a few B roads. biggrin

nicfaz

432 posts

231 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Unmolested? I'd say it had been heavily molested at some point then (badly) returned to near standard. Avoid.

A quick use of Pistonheads' "SOTW" car search turned up a bunch of cars, all of which I would take over this one. This is a shed for those that, for whatever reason, can't afford to insure a better car.

Edited by nicfaz on Friday 10th March 09:46

Kitchski

6,516 posts

232 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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That number plate is KILLING me. People with an I.Q in double digits shouldn't be allowed near plate-making equipment. Next time, when the computer asks "Euroflag Y or N?" press 'N' if you're not using one banghead

Sorry, petty rage problem of mine.

Otherwise, meh. We've got a VTR (with a VTS engine fitted) and to be honest, the VTS is still available at shed money. I understand the point of SOTW is to use the PH classifieds, but outside of those you'll find a similar VTS for less than a grand, easily. And the different is worth it.

Otherwise Icelandic Grey is a nice colour (had one myself in 2002, albeit it a Furio 1.4 model) and it's standard.....ish. Exhaust has obviously been chavved at some point.
Sunroof is either seals or blocked drains (if you're lucky), or a rotten mounting tray (if you're not). Ask me how I know frown

Rust at the back end is usually hidden by the underseal. A 5p-sized hole turns into a rear end rebuild. These, along with the 106, really do rot badly.

If anyone buys it to track, find a 106 S2 Rallye gearbox, or similar. The standard VTR one isn't a sports gearset, and it's.....crap. 40mpg is achievable in daily use though.

Kitchski

6,516 posts

232 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Nanook said:
Those wheels are at least 15s, maybe 16s, and the ride height looks all messed up.

Someone taken aftermarket suspension off, and chucked some struts from a 1.1 at it, perhaps?

As someone that's owned one, and loved it at the time, I'd stay away from that.
They're 15's, and that is standard ride height. They always look like they're on stilts on 15's, even the VTS wheels.

andyastrasri

166 posts

99 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Certainly doesnt look unmolested to me, I used to have a very early 106 GTI, great little car and real fun around the twisty stuff

jayemdoubleu

54 posts

91 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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I learnt to drive in a Saxo. 1100cc and 8 valves of fury. Correct on the pedals too; I have size 12 feet, which were entirely impractical for pressing the tiny, squashed up pedals.
Apparently not entirely satisfied by my punishment, I had a 1.4 Furio a couple of years later. In hindsight, I really wish I hadn't bothered.

PistonBroker

2,424 posts

227 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Dion20vt said:
I'd say it has been molested at some time... judging by the cut out in the rear bumper for a dual massive zorst... Yo!
Agreed. Wasn't sure if that was a cut-out or not but doesn't look right.

sjtgeray

290 posts

188 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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I bought one a few years back that was already track ready and as a first track day I found it quite fun. With most bits exposed it had surprisingly little rust, and seemed to withstand fairly long days blatting around the circuit.
As a road car only with no roll cage I think I'd have felt pretty vulnerable, as not exactly made of the most robust materials! Hopefully its still running around track days for its current owner.


anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Has the front taken a hit? Lines look messed up.

Can't say they are aging particularly well these.

I reckon there's better options out there for a bag of sand.

Also, the mk1 golf gti's 1.6 8v made c. 108 bhp in something like 1902, so how in the name of zeus butthole does the same sized engine made 5 zillion years later not only not match the performance, but generates less?

BFleming

3,614 posts

144 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Very nice. The wheels are chavvy though, but in my opinion the original Saxo VTR deep-dish wheels were one of the nicest designs of the day.
Now, here's something not so unmolested just to remind us all why this one looks so nice (at first appearance at least):




All unashamedly borrowed from this PH link: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

SturdyHSV

10,110 posts

168 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Already mentioned earlier, but in case the guy's post was missed, handy additional massive zorst cut out as well, so adds credence to the 'hastily returned to almost normal to flog on' hypothesis


GranCab

2,902 posts

147 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Nanook said:
Kitchski said:
They're 15's, and that is standard ride height. They always look like they're on stilts on 15's, even the VTS wheels.
You think so?

Standard:


This one:


Your right about the wheels, they even have the appropriate size tyres on, the 45 profiles. So why do those 2 pictures look so different?
Coz the first car is a different colour ? smile