RE: Mazda Eunos Roadster/Subaru Forester STI: PH Fleet

RE: Mazda Eunos Roadster/Subaru Forester STI: PH Fleet

Wednesday 15th March 2017

Mazda Eunos Roadster/Subaru Forester STI: PH Fleet

Bye-bye Eunos - you'll be looking good next time I see you though!



Got to laugh haven't you - there is no harsher reality check than posting about 'your' new McLaren long-term test car. And then confronting the reality that spending less than an options tick on said car on an old Eunos prompts sleepless nights of indecision. Because, yes, the cost of a full panels off respray at a respected MX-5 specialist costs about the same as a carbon dressing kit on the interior of 570GT. Or, perhaps more pertinently, twice what the Mazda cost me to buy in the first place.


Madness? Not sure. I like to think there might be a shred of sense in this given my Eunos is thankfully rust free and, as supplies of 'good' NA Mk1s dry up, values of clean ones will strengthen. Extra motivation for going to Deepcar Autobodies too, their seemingly strong reputation on the Mazda 'scene' hopefully meaning additional value over and above a respray from any old bodyshop. Their specialist knowledge of the cars is an attraction too of course.

I know it's soppy but I've got a strong emotional bond with my little Eunos and dropping it off for a big job like this represents an emotional wrench, never mind a financial one. I know it'll be a 'different' car when I eventually pick it up and I'm curious to know how that'll feel. Dave and his colleagues from Deepcar will be doing a proper job too and the doors, bonnet, roof and bootlid will all be coming off. Glass will come out - chance to address the pitted seal around the screen and faded door cappings - and all those little scratches, scrapes and parking dings will all be dealt with. Most crucially the signs of the rear-end repair the car had at some stage will finally be addressed.

It's to my shame I didn't spot the very obvious signs of this in my excitement in buying the car. I was so fixated with sill and arch rust I didn't spot the seam just behind the aerial mount where a new rear end had been fitted. To be fair it's only really obvious in direct sunlight. But all the same...


Deepcar are just off the M1 so I'm hoping to stop by on occasion and see how the work is progressing. I'm told it'll take about six weeks all in. With the hood coming out anyway I'll have to make a decision about putting a new one on, given the rear zip-out window has frayed along its top edge. Splash out on a mohair one or just a cheapy vinyl replacement? Given I only usually drive the car roof down I'm inclined to the latter. I'm also considering what to do with the wheels too. The orange daisies have been fun but I've got the nice OZ Ultraleggeras in the cellar and I wonder if those done in a nice JDM bronze colour might be a little more classy. Decisions decisions.

And the Forester? Mrs Trent drove the Mighty Duster the other day and moaned about the slow steering, spongey brakes and lack of power. "I like the Subaru!" This is good news in its way, the exhaust seemingly accepted as a permanent fixture too. With this, the new tyres and the head unit it's pretty much sorted. The only blot is the paintwork, which is looking somewhat tired and not helped by that bluff front end seemingly being vulnerable to stone chips. Japanese paint is never that sturdy it seems and some manner of professional attention is required. And, no, that's not a second job for Deepcar. At least not yet.


FACT SHEET
Car
: 1993 Eunos Roadster (JDM import model)
Run by: Dan Trent
Bought: January 2011
Mileage: Enough to justify pending expenditure? Probably not...
Purchase price: £1,250
Last month at a glance: How strong is the man maths then Mr. Trent?

Previous reports:
The answer to everything?
More exhaust noise? Don't mind if I do...
Skidfoolery at Silverstone on the eco tyres
Er, more skidfoolery at Silverstone on the eco tyres!
Hibernation? Not for this Eunos!
Sell it? Nah, I'll just drive it, ta
Spring comes along and heating mechanism packs up
Skids on hold as LSD bites the dust
Eunos out of hiding and expenditure looms

FACT SHEET
Car
: 2005 Subaru Forester STI (JDM import model)
Run by: Dan Trent/the long suffering Mrs Trent
Bought: December 2015
Mileage: 122,843km (at purchase)
Purchase price: £9,500
Last month at a glance: Tired paintwork may need addressing soon

Previous reports:
Dan scores himself one of his all-time dream cars
Living the Subaru lifestyle dream
Dan versus JDM wind deflectors (with a little help from Sticky Stuff Remover)
JDM habit runs deep in the Trent family which could prove costly

Author
Discussion

GibsonSG

Original Poster:

276 posts

111 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Phew. When I scanned the headline I thought you were selling the Eunos....

I've used mine for commuting for a week and it's been bloody brilliant. I ran my Meg 275 today for a change and did feel a pang of sadness for not gunning around in the Eunos

yellowstreak

615 posts

152 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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The paint on my Forester can be taken off with a pressure washer. I now leave it dirty!

jtopps

154 posts

154 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Glad to see you took the plunge and entrusted you car to Dave, Emily and the rest of the team at Deepcar. My car looked fantastic when I got it back from them, it was very satisfying indeed. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out smile

suffolk009

5,399 posts

165 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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I've got a similar decision looming. I've done all the little jobs on mine: next the big one.

Just out of interest, can you explain what the benefit is in taking the panels off. Glass, I understand, panels less so.

I went for a mohair hood with glass window. I haven't bothered to connect the demisting option. It looks so much better than the vinyl. The black is blacker, deeper and non reflective. Amazing the difference it makes. And I belive they tend to last twice as long.

BTW - I still can't get my mind around that wheel colour of yours.

VladD

7,855 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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GibsonSG said:
Phew. When I scanned the headline I thought you were selling the Eunos....
Ditto. Relieve to see it's still around.

Dan, as I said on the 570 GT thread, you need to get the McLaren wheels painted orange to match the Eunos. You know it makes sense.

Striple

170 posts

141 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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What you going to do about the number plate? It's a shame that one has to go on somewhere once it's resprayed

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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suffolk009 said:
Just out of interest, can you explain what the benefit is in taking the panels off. Glass, I understand, panels less so.
I'll ask the question when I'm next down to see how they're getting on, unless anyone has an answer before that.

And the wheel colour was just meant to be a bit of a laugh but has kind of become a defining feature! Tempted by the idea of colour matching the McLaren ones too, like the plan!

Noted on the hood too - my brother got a mohair one for his and it does look plush. As I say though, if the car is out 99 times out of 100 the roof will be down. I'm sounding all rational and sensible now. No doubt when the decision is presented to me I'll blurt out 'sod it, just put a mohair one on it......' and be done with it!

Cheers,

Dan

MDMA .

8,895 posts

101 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Easier to prep/paint with the panels off.

jilbobagins

13 posts

159 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Love the colour of those wheels....😀😀😀 I did the mirrors as well!


jtopps

154 posts

154 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Dan Trent said:
suffolk009 said:
Just out of interest, can you explain what the benefit is in taking the panels off. Glass, I understand, panels less so.
I'll ask the question when I'm next down to see how they're getting on, unless anyone has an answer before that.

And the wheel colour was just meant to be a bit of a laugh but has kind of become a defining feature! Tempted by the idea of colour matching the McLaren ones too, like the plan!

Noted on the hood too - my brother got a mohair one for his and it does look plush. As I say though, if the car is out 99 times out of 100 the roof will be down. I'm sounding all rational and sensible now. No doubt when the decision is presented to me I'll blurt out 'sod it, just put a mohair one on it......' and be done with it!

Cheers,

Dan
Hi chaps, when I took my car to Deepcar they took the panels off too. It's basically so they can paint the part of the shell that is covered by the panels. Sometimes water seeps in here and can cause corrosion and we all know how MX5's love to rust so it's better safe than sorry. You also get a much tidier finish around the edges of the panels because they're not having to mask that area so there's no "edge" to the new paint where it meets the masking tape and no chance of overspray onto adjoining panels etc. It also means they can do all the door, boot and bonnet shuts cleanly. Hope that clears things up for you. Got tons of pictures of my car before during and after having the work done by Dave and happy to share them if you're interested. smile

suffolk009

5,399 posts

165 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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jtopps said:
Dan Trent said:
suffolk009 said:
Just out of interest, can you explain what the benefit is in taking the panels off. Glass, I understand, panels less so.
I'll ask the question when I'm next down to see how they're getting on, unless anyone has an answer before that.

And the wheel colour was just meant to be a bit of a laugh but has kind of become a defining feature! Tempted by the idea of colour matching the McLaren ones too, like the plan!

Noted on the hood too - my brother got a mohair one for his and it does look plush. As I say though, if the car is out 99 times out of 100 the roof will be down. I'm sounding all rational and sensible now. No doubt when the decision is presented to me I'll blurt out 'sod it, just put a mohair one on it......' and be done with it!

Cheers,

Dan
Hi chaps, when I took my car to Deepcar they took the panels off too. It's basically so they can paint the part of the shell that is covered by the panels. Sometimes water seeps in here and can cause corrosion and we all know how MX5's love to rust so it's better safe than sorry. You also get a much tidier finish around the edges of the panels because they're not having to mask that area so there's no "edge" to the new paint where it meets the masking tape and no chance of overspray onto adjoining panels etc. It also means they can do all the door, boot and bonnet shuts cleanly. Hope that clears things up for you. Got tons of pictures of my car before during and after having the work done by Dave and happy to share them if you're interested. smile
Would love to see some photos please. I'm tryng to justify the idea of spending so much...

jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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how much are you spending to get the mx5 painted?

jtopps

154 posts

154 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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suffolk009 said:
Would love to see some photos please. I'm tryng to justify the idea of spending so much...
Ask and ye shall receive
When I took the car to Dave it was showing a few bubbles on the sills but didn't look too bad (turned out it was really bad and had been covered up by a mountain of filler in the past). The paint was 21 years old and very faded/marked and there was a few dents and a big ripple in the rear quarter:


Dave cut out all the rust and replaced with new metal. I changed a bunch of the panels to carbon (which Dave kindly fitted for me) as man maths dictated that they were being replaced anyway so why not? Any remaining metal bodywork was painted a nice pearl black to compliment the carbon.



When I picked her up she looked like this and I was over the moon!



A couple of moody shots including one with a PH smiley I bought at Ginetta Sunday service a year ago:



And then I went full rudeboi and got some dishy wheels and sent it off to Dave to fit some bolt on carbon flares...



I've now sold the car and bought a 300ZX Twin Turbo because I saw prices of them were rising and couldn't afford both. I do miss it though and Dave was a top bloke from start to finish with the bodywork and it looked great (to my eyes at least) when I got it from him.

suffolk009

5,399 posts

165 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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^^ Thank you. Lovely looking paint.