RE: BMW Z4 'GT3': You Know You Want To

RE: BMW Z4 'GT3': You Know You Want To

Tuesday 4th April 2017

BMW Z4 'GT3': You Know You Want To

BMW never made an official GT3 Z4; didn't stop this intrepid owner though...



Before the M6 GT3, you may remember BMW campaigned the Z4 GT3 in various sportscar series across the globe. It achieved a reasonable degree of success too, which will have been hard earned given how competitive GT racing now is. But more than that the Z4 GT3 looked absolutely incredible; perhaps not classically beautiful but fit to burst with attitude, aggression and intent. It was, and most probably remains, one of the meanest looking racing cars ever.

This is the look it's going for...
This is the look it's going for...
What a shame that BMW never saw fit to make a production version of the GT3. The outgoing generation of Z4 never really delivered on the dynamic front, beaten in group tests by - shock, horror - the Audi TT on occasion. Sure, the styling was neat and the engines decent, but as a sports car it was a disappointment. Something GT3 inspired could not only have addressed that but also harked back to the legendary Z3 and Z4 M Roadsters, as well as creating a more exciting drop-top M car than an M3 or M6 cabrio...

But it didn't happen. And it never will, now that the Z4 has been replaced. Where there's a will there's a way though, right? Which is how you end up with a car like this, a 'Z4 GT3 conversion'.

It's probably worth dealing with what this car isn't before we get to what it is; avoids any confusion, in theory. It isn't a converted race car, instead being based on a 35i production model. As a result it isn't a V8 either, instead still being powered by the turbocharged straight-six. And it isn't a sequential either, the gearbox still the standard six-speed manual (which would have made it rare in the first instance).

... and it's not miles away!
... and it's not miles away!
With those discussion points out of the way, we can look at what the Z4 does have. Apparently this car has had thousands spent on it, of which there can be little doubt. Look at that bodykit! It's 100 per cent carbon, from a company called Flossman, accompanied here by a gigantic rear spoiler, a new diffuser arrangement and the kind of front splitter that would look excessive on the North Loop, let alone the North Circular.

On top of that this particular Z4 has Spax coilovers, Sparco seats, a quick-release wheel and, oh yes, 500hp. And you thought it was just a cosmetic exercise! While the advert is vague on exactly how another 200hp has been liberated from the straight six, it does make the car rather more interesting. Let's hope the brakes have been upgraded too. And the suspension is up to the task. And the harnesses hold you in...

Will it be any good? You'd have to hope so, given the money invested in it. Of course money spent on a car doesn't guarantee success, but at the end of the day this is a front-engined, rear-wheel drive sports car with 500hp. It will be an experience, for sure.

You won't see another!
You won't see another!
Whether it will actually sell for £45,000 of course remains to be seen. At the moment that's £10,000 more than any other Z4, the £35K models delivery mileage cars that are far newer. And well, there are plenty of other track ready cars to buy for that sort of money.

There won't be any other Z4 GT3s though, will there? Perhaps that rarity will be enough for some, the novelty of a car unlike any other - and the attention that that will bring - worth the price alone. Is that you? We'd love to know...

 


BMW Z4 GT3
Price
: £44,995
Why you should: Power, presence, performance
Why you shouldn't: Can't even fold the roof now, can you?

See the original advert here



GT3 images: LAT

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Discussion

JTSmith

Original Poster:

104 posts

92 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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... It doesn't have any roll cage... so basically you are buying a tarted up road car, that's made to look like a race car....

Or ya'know... you could buy a Z4 with a proper 6 point cage for less than half the price...

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/8030...

ambuletz

10,764 posts

182 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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JTSmith said:
... It doesn't have any roll cage... so basically you are buying a tarted up road car, that's made to look like a race car....

Or ya'know... you could buy a Z4 with a proper 6 point cage for less than half the price...

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/8030...
but it won't pass the kristin scott thomas test if it's got a rollcage in!

LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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To say the Z4 has been replaced is a little premature, no?
A void exists, though the Z5 maybe later this year.

SteveS Cup

1,996 posts

161 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Have I missed the part where the roof is now not foldable? Driving it with the roof down would make it more appealing in the IDGAF'ness of it!

500bhp is going to of been a lot more than an upgraded intercooler and remap.

What I can't stand is the "I ordered some bits from Demon Tweaks to compliment the body kit" rather than "I fitted this kit so I could fit stupidly wide wheels, increase the track and improve aero"... It's not a track car, it's a show car. Meh.

mmm-five

11,264 posts

285 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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JTSmith said:
... It doesn't have any roll cage... so basically you are buying a tarted up road car, that's made to look like a race car....

Or ya'know... you could buy a Z4 with a proper 6 point cage for less than half the price...

https://www.racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Details/8030...
Except that's an e85, rather than the e89 the OP talks about - and about half the power too!

99dndd

2,091 posts

90 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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I I wanted to, I'd buy a standard Z4 and do it myself. That's were most of the fun would be,

Chris Stott

13,413 posts

198 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Is that wing legal?

J4CKO

41,676 posts

201 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Chris Stott said:
Is that wing legal?
Ask the CAA ?

Sorry, but would feel a right plonker in that, each to their own and I like creativity, but not sure who would buy it now, I would perhaps remove the wing but you would have to drive it home with it on.

GranCab

2,902 posts

147 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Hmmm ..... left and right visibility is a bit compromised for the road - sorry mate - didn't see you coming.

Apart from that you'd look a right knob driving up the Princes Risborough High Street in it.

Edit - 500BHP - yeah ... sure redcard

Edited by GranCab on Tuesday 4th April 12:48

Richair

1,021 posts

198 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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£45k for a fake race car laughlaughlaugh

/end thread

RacerMike

4,214 posts

212 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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That is. Well. Interesting....

For me, it's the opposite of what it should be. It should have the V8 and very little of the bodywork. The GT3 car is fundamentally a Z4 E89 shell with the M3 V8 in it, which makes a genuinely interesting proposition for a BMW sports car. If someone did that, with some subtle E92 M3 inspired arch flares and bonnet buldge, I think it would be incredible. This though...

Whilst we're here though, this timelapse of the Marc VDS team building the GT3 version is considerably more interesting. As you can see, there wasn't a great deal of original Z4 left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CWDwsij4EI

JTSmith

Original Poster:

104 posts

92 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Richair said:
£45k for a fake race car laughlaughlaugh

/end thread
zaaactly

mgbond

6,749 posts

233 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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This is a proper one and all carbon. Was going for about 100k at the time.

Wasn't easy getting into the drivers seat.












Edited by mgbond on Tuesday 4th April 13:19

Dave Hedgehog

14,584 posts

205 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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Chris Stott said:
Is that wing legal?
Pretty standard on many AM specials now

seefarr

1,472 posts

187 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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GranCab said:
500BHP - yeah ... sure redcard

Edited by GranCab on Tuesday 4th April 12:48
It's an N54 engine (3L twin turbo) so only some new turbos, exhaust and intercooler away from a reliable 500hp.

Not that I'm saying the car is to my style but 500hp is eminently doable.

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

164 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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vomit

GranCab

2,902 posts

147 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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No detail on who and what or dyno evidence to show it produces a nice round 500 bee aitch pees....

ZX10R NIN

27,654 posts

126 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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I can't knock the effort involved but it doesn't sit right either the arches are wrong or it needs to come down, the fact it doesn't have a roll cage is of no consequence unless someone planned to race it as a trackday car with the downforce & 500 ponies (a dyno session before buying would or wouldn't validate that claim) to scoot you around the track means you'll have a big grin on your face & here's the thing because it's not a real GT3 Z4 means that when the inevitable happens & you bin it you haven't just binned 100k+ worth of car & it won't involve ringing up BMW Motorsport & getting shafted on the cost of parts.

A more detailed advert would help the sellers cause no end.


RacerMike

4,214 posts

212 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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ZX10R NIN said:
I can't knock the effort involved but it doesn't sit right either the arches are wrong or it needs to come down, the fact it doesn't have a roll cage is of no consequence unless someone planned to race it as a trackday car with the downforce & 500 ponies (a dyno session before buying would or wouldn't validate that claim) to scoot you around the track means you'll have a big grin on your face & here's the thing because it's not a real GT3 Z4 means that when the inevitable happens & you bin it you haven't just binned 100k+ worth of car & it won't involve ringing up BMW Motorsport & getting shafted on the cost of parts.

A more detailed advert would help the sellers cause no end.
Yes. But it will be in no way comparable to a Z4 GT3! Or even a GT4 car. The wheels are more than likely sitting on spacers for a start!

The Z4 GT3 car is about as far away from a Z4 as this Z4 is away from an MX5. The GT3 car isn't far off a sillouette with a serious amount of underfloor aero, a repositioned engine and sequential gearbox....

Rich_W

12,548 posts

213 months

Tuesday 4th April 2017
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IIRC the GT3 car had the E92 M3's 4 litre V8.


All you need was to do that conversion, set of big AP's and keep it looking like a normal car! biggrin