Star Wars: The Last Jedi (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[housen]

oh and if u want to destroy empire star ships

just program a st cruiser to light speed in to them ?

hell you could do that to a death star too maybe ?????

[Bullett]

Guvernator said:

"we are running out of fuel but our ships are slightly faster".

I enjoyed the reason for that being the Rebels ships were smaller and lighter.

[Halb]

It was a very Spaceballs/Red Dwarf thing, but it sat nicely with the Robot CHicken jokes from earlier.
Makes me wonder if Rian watched the Robot Chicken star wars and thought that was star wars

[ukaskew]

This weekend it's become the 6th biggest US release of all time and the 9th biggest global release.

I'm sure many expected more from it financially, but it's been a pretty good earner. Given the merch income alone I can't imagine Disney will be sweating over their investment just yet.

[Halb]

ukaskew said:

This weekend it's become the 6th biggest US release of all time and the 9th biggest global release.

I'm sure many expected more from it financially, but it's been a pretty good earner. Given the merch income alone I can't imagine Disney will be sweating over their investment just yet.

I don't think they are at the profuse sweating stage, but they are nervous, and have been for some time. THe litany of reshoots reveal that, and if it is accurate that 90% of Solo has been reshoot, then that would be close to cacky trouser moment...if it under-performs.

TLJ didn't get the 1.3 billion I had expected, and I thought that was lowballing it. My fagpacket economics says Disney made a profit of 206 million on the cinema release of this film, this doesn't include merch of course.

[Moonhawk]

ukaskew said:

This weekend it's become the 6th biggest US release of all time and the 9th biggest global release.

I'm sure many expected more from it financially, but it's been a pretty good earner. Given the merch income alone I can't imagine Disney will be sweating over their investment just yet.

True - but a lot of that will have come along with the goodwill fans had off the back of TFA an R1.

Based on the reaction TLJ has got - I suspect future movies will have a much harder time. Much of the goodwill seems to have been eroded.

I’ll certainly be holding off a visit to the cinema for the next couple of films.

[chris watton]

Moonhawk said:

ukaskew said:

This weekend it's become the 6th biggest US release of all time and the 9th biggest global release.

I'm sure many expected more from it financially, but it's been a pretty good earner. Given the merch income alone I can't imagine Disney will be sweating over their investment just yet.

True - but a lot of that will have come along with the goodwill fans had off the back of TFA an R1.

Based on the reaction TLJ has got - I suspect future movies will have a much harder time. Much of the goodwill seems to have been eroded.

I’ll certainly be holding off a visit to the cinema for the next couple of films.

Also, although it has made a lot of money, I cannot help but think they could have made a whole lot more than they did, and I suspect the Disney big-wigs know this, behind closed doors.

[Halb]

chris watton said:

Also, although it has made a lot of money, I cannot help but think they could have made a whole lot more than they did, and I suspect the Disney big-wigs know this, behind closed doors.

What I am interested in, is if Kathy stays in charges. It's her vision now.
http://epicstream.com/news/Rian-Johnson-Explains-E...

[Guvernator]

This film would have done well regardless of how bad it was because as others have said, it had a lot of good will due to TFA and R1 being pretty decent and people would have expected at least comparable quality going into this movie.

However it will be interesting to see how the next couple of movies do. As others have said, I won't be rushing out to see them on opening night again. Hopefully they tank and give Disney the real kick up the arse they need.

I'd also question why a franchise this big was given to Johnson in the first place? OK Looper was pretty decent but that's the only big movie he made before being given TLJ, nowhere near enough of a track record to decide whether he was just lucky with Looper or whether he has the directing chops for something like Star Wars, evidence would suggest not.

I feel he as a director and Kennedy as the lead exec just don't understand Star Wars at all.

[Halb]

Didn't realise he was Looper, I didn't lke that, too weak for me, too many contrivances.

[chris watton]

Halb said:

chris watton said:

Also, although it has made a lot of money, I cannot help but think they could have made a whole lot more than they did, and I suspect the Disney big-wigs know this, behind closed doors.

What I am interested in, is if Kathy stays in charges. It's her vision now.
http://epicstream.com/news/Rian-Johnson-Explains-E...

Being pulled from all cinemas in China after only a not-quite two week run must hurt. Even the audiences there knew it was crap and an insult to their intelligence, but many in the West still continue to pretend it's great! Have we now become numb to the utter crap we're fed for what passes as entertainment that many cannot tell good material from bad, and some genuinely believe it's the best film they have ever seen? I like crap, I like the RE and Underworld films, they're fun, but there is no way I could (or would) defend them from people who do not like them.

As BO takings overall have been declining over the past decade (in the West), perhaps there still is some hope that many can no longer stomach lazy and sometimes preachy film making - and things may change for the better. I won't hold my breath, though.

[Guvernator]

Halb said:

What I am interested in, is if Kathy stays in charges. It's her vision now.
http://epicstream.com/news/Rian-Johnson-Explains-E...

I love the way detractors of the film are passed off as angry fanboys in the last paragraph of that article. I really am shocked at the presses reaction to fans who didn't like this movie.

[r11co]

Halb said:

What I am interested in, is if Kathy stays in charges. It's her vision now.
http://epicstream.com/news/Rian-Johnson-Explains-E...

That article is hilarious. Johnson has been backpedalling constantly since he realised he'd dropped the ball with TLJ and now he's trying to pass the buck for the most ridiculed and ridiculous part of the movie (the Leia Poppins bit).

It's just been a load of excuses after-the-fact from him. Regardless of who, what or why, the scene just looked stupid and it was a pretty stty way to cap Carrie Fisher's legacy.

[funkyrobot]

Guvernator said:

Halb said:

What I am interested in, is if Kathy stays in charges. It's her vision now.
http://epicstream.com/news/Rian-Johnson-Explains-E...

I love the way detractors of the film are passed off as angry fanboys in the last paragraph of that article. I really am shocked at the presses reaction to fans who didn't like this movie.

Stupid, isn't it. I won't be going to the cinema to watch anymore star wars films. TLJ is utter rubbish. Cannot stand the way it has been embroiled with pc nonsense too. Its a sci-fi film, not a mouth piece for lefty bloody activists.

I've been a fan since the first films came out and even stomached the prequels. At least they felt like star wars films.

Disney can do one. They are far too big now anyway.

[Halb]

funkyrobot said:

Disney can do one. They are far too big now anyway.

You will be assimilated

[funkyrobot]

Halb said:

funkyrobot said:

Disney can do one. They are far too big now anyway.

You will be assimilated

Resistance is futile, I guess.

[ben5575]

r11co said:

... Johnson has been backpedalling constantly since he realised he'd dropped the ball with TLJ ....

Talking of back peddling...

[AndStilliRise]

ben5575 said:

r11co said:

... Johnson has been backpedalling constantly since he realised he'd dropped the ball with TLJ ....

Talking of back peddling...

Where did you get that from, is it an official picture?

[ben5575]

AndStilliRise said:

Where did you get that from, is it an official picture?

www.instagram.com/starwars/

[Moonhawk]

Guvernator said:

I love the way detractors of the film are passed off as angry fanboys in the last paragraph of that article. I really am shocked at the presses reaction to fans who didn't like this movie.

Ironically looking at the demographics of Star Wars fans - it's those "angry fanboys" who pay to see movies multiple times, buy Star Wars lego kits etc and who are the Star Wars franchise biggest cash cow.

Disney is shooting themselves in the foot by intentionally insulting or alienating them.

Same thing happened with GB3 which did worse than Ghostbusters 2 (and that's some feat). Will they never learn.

Edited by Moonhawk on Monday 22 January 22:49