Auto cars with "hold" function on the brake

[romeogolf]

Mercedes have a hold function on the brake pedal in their cars with an auto transmission. Essentially when you come to a stop a 'firm press' of the pedal holds the brakes when you remove your foot from the pedal. Brake lights remain on and a 'hold' logo appears on the instrument cluster. To release it, another firm press of the brake or simply pressing the accelerator turns the function off.

Do any other manufacturers provide this function on their autos?

[Andehh]

I have an auto hold on my BMW, if turned on the minute I stop, the car keeps the brakes on for me. Touching accelerator pulls us away. Fairly common these days!

[Bennet]

I hadn't heard of this before. Sounds like a sensible feature apart from the bit about it leaving the brake lights illuminated.

[romeogolf]

Andehh said:

I have an auto hold on my BMW, if turned on the minute I stop, the car keeps the brakes on for me. Touching accelerator pulls us away. Fairly common these days!

I thought it would be, but the Mini I drove the other week didn't have it. Is it an optional extra for BMW vehicles?

[Riley Blue]

Very common but very annoying when the brake lights stay on with what is effectually the hand brake applied.

[Frances The Mute]

I had it on my old Passat and also have it on my Optima.

I thought it was standard fare in the world of electronic 'hand brakes'.

[Stickyfinger]

I have it on my Citroen C5x7 Exclusive......love it, but I also thought it was standard on all cars with an electronic handbrake

[Flibble]

romeogolf said:

Mercedes have a hold function on the brake pedal in their cars with an auto transmission. Essentially when you come to a stop a 'firm press' of the pedal holds the brakes when you remove your foot from the pedal. Brake lights remain on and a 'hold' logo appears on the instrument cluster. To release it, another firm press of the brake or simply pressing the accelerator turns the function off.

Do any other manufacturers provide this function on their autos?

My old Audi had it. If you clicked on the handbrake the brake lights would switch off too.

[Mr-B]

My ND MX5 has it, manual gearbox, manual handbrake, don't know whether the brake lights stay on though.

[donkmeister]

Frances The Mute said:

I had it on my old Passat and also have it on my Optima.

I thought it was standard fare in the world of electronic 'hand brakes'.

Is that a different sort of system with a similar effect though?
The system the OP is talking about uses the hydraulic braking system, it isn't applying the parking brake.
I've got it on my 2004 e-class, with the wonderfully over-complicated "brake by wire" SBC system.

[Krikkit]

donkmeister said:

Frances The Mute said:

I had it on my old Passat and also have it on my Optima.

I thought it was standard fare in the world of electronic 'hand brakes'.

Is that a different sort of system with a similar effect though?
The system the OP is talking about uses the hydraulic braking system, it isn't applying the parking brake.

They all do, but his point was that now that handbrakes can't be engaged/disengaged in < 3-4s I would expect lots of cars to come with it.

[Whitean3]

Our Range Rover sport has it (hill assist); I would expect most large cars these days have this. On the RRS, it's not always clear when it is going to engage and hold the car stationary, vs usual automatic creep- you have to be on a fairly obvious incline

[Ninja59]

I think people are getting confused by "hill assist" and "Auto Hold".

Hill assist will only help when an incline is identified by the car and will hold the car for a few seconds until there is enough force to get the car moving. More so for manuals meaning people do not need to know how to hill start properly.

Auto hold seen on the most recent automatics which essentially just kill any of the creep from the TC, and hold the car stopped not moving until the throttle is pushed or brakes pushed.

I use the Auto Hold on mine all the time tbh, unless I am in free flowing traffic, unfortunately my commute involves lots of queues so being able to take my foot off the brake is great. I am aware with the BMW mind it does keep the rear brake lights on, additionally the BMW system form my understanding only holds it on the rear. On F series cars BMW saw fit to have it coded off after every start, new G series automatically have it on from every start now (unless you code it to on or off after starting).

[anonymous-user]

Only discovered this feature on my E-Class a few days ago...had it almost 8 months!!

Must read the owners manual....sometime....maybe...meh.

[Dog Star]

djstevec said:

Only discovered this feature on my E-Class a few days ago...had it almost 8 months!!

Must read the owners manual....sometime....maybe...meh.

There's that thing where it parks itself as well - never got chance to use it or bother to read the manual. I'm on my second E class!

[Edition87]

The GF's Fiat 500x has it too, its a manual though

[Monty Python]

romeogolf said:

I thought it would be, but the Mini I drove the other week didn't have it. Is it an optional extra for BMW vehicles?

It appears to be only 5-series and above - my F30 doesn't have it. I think all have hill assist, which stops the car rolling back for a couple of seconds when you take your foot off the brake pedal.

[giantdefy]

My Auris Hybrid has it

[InitialDave]

The Renault Zoe does it.

Edit: Well, it has the anti-rollback, I'm not sure how long it actually acts on the brakes before allowing it to roll. May be talking at cross purposes here.

Edited by InitialDave on Thursday 29th June 11:52

[surveyor]

The Renault Kadjar does not. Hateful autobox also allows to roll backwards...