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RE: Lotus Elise S: PH Carpool

RE: Lotus Elise S: PH Carpool

Monday 17th July

Lotus Elise S: PH Carpool

A couple of creature comforts make this Elise a perfect compromise for this PHer



Name: Iain Turner
Car: Lotus Elise S 220
Owned since: March 2016
Previously owned: 2x Lotus S1 Elise, Ford Focus ST170, MG ZT260, MG ZS180, plus various other MG Rover products with different reliability levels


Why I bought it:
"I've always been one for handling accuracy and precision over raw power. Driving in a straight line is boring! Whenever I've changed to a more powerful car, it soon becomes something your brain considers 'normal', whereas feeling how minute inputs affect my Elise and how it behaves never fails to thrill. Two S1 111S' (not at the same time, that's just greedy...) ticked all those boxes and more but the shortcomings of the cars that I glossed over (poor heater, immense heat soak from the engine/coolant pipes in the sills, lack of ability to actually go somewhere in it) became more significant. The S3 with Air conditioning, cruise control (I know, I know, I'm a weak and worthless person) and more comfy seats but crucially retaining that Lotus DNA was the obvious step."


What I wish I'd known:
"That buying a brand new car would turn me from a mild car OCD sufferer into a borderline psychopath! On the flip side, it's lovely to have a car that I can mollycoddle from day one; it's a keeper so in ten years time hopefully, it'll be one of the best examples around. No, it doesn't get driven in the wet..."

Things I hate:
"Apart from the above, it's minor stuff. The dealer's after sales experience has been pretty average (being diplomatic!) and the top engine cover has a weird fuzzy finish that clings onto micro fibre cloths. The availability of Lotus parts is also a disgrace - components for a brand new car being on back order over a year isn't uncommon. Jean-Marc Gales looks to be doing wonders for the company attracting new customers but he really needs to have a word about looking after Lotus' existing clients too."


Where I've been:
"It's been to the Nurburgring (a month and a half after purchase, needless to say, the laps were a nervous experience) and is going on a Euro tour soon. I try to keep the mileage down to 3,000 per annum so it only gets driven on special occasions or when the sun is shining and I fancy some Hethel based therapy. I'm fortunate to live close to the B660! The car makes me smile even just catching a glimpse of it waiting under its cover when popping into to the garage."

What next?
"When it's out of warranty I wouldn't mind an engine ECU remap to make the most of the obvious potential of the standard car and the full 2Bular exhaust system I've fitted. Some UK track days are also planned. Apart from that-just polish, enjoy, love and drive it!"


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Author
Discussion

Scottie - NW

Original Poster:

678 posts

154 months

Monday 17th July
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Just drive the damn thing and don't worry about only doing 3k miles PA!!!

richthebike

206 posts

58 months

Monday 17th July
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Scottie - NW said:
Just drive the damn thing and don't worry about only doing 3k miles PA!!!
You've missed the point.

Great car, lovely spec, OP has bought the car he wants for the reasons he has. Nice write up too.

Riverside Red

328 posts

56 months

Monday 17th July
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Sold my Solar yellow S3 Elise S at the end of April and loved the 18 months I had her, in the end I sold her because SWMBO had issues getting in and out and I really wanted a proper roadster. No body believes how comfortable the Elise actually was and more practical than an F-Type Jag!!!

The 981 Porsche Boxster which has replaced her is good but the steering/handling/ride combination is nowhere near as good for a B road hoon.

My car was a 2015 ex demo with 600 miles on the clock and I got a fantastic deal on it at the time, which meant I didn't lose much money when it came to selling.

Enjoy.

RR

annodomini2

5,456 posts

172 months

Monday 17th July
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richthebike said:
Scottie - NW said:
Just drive the damn thing and don't worry about only doing 3k miles PA!!!
You've missed the point.

Great car, lovely spec, OP has bought the car he wants for the reasons he has. Nice write up too.
Not driving a car to save putting mileage on it, is like not shagging your significant other to save them for the next person.

Scottie - NW

Original Poster:

678 posts

154 months

Monday 17th July
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richthebike said:
Scottie - NW said:
Just drive the damn thing and don't worry about only doing 3k miles PA!!!
You've missed the point.

Great car, lovely spec, OP has bought the car he wants for the reasons he has. Nice write up too.
The owner states he actively tries to keep the mileage down to 3k PA.

Lovely car though it is, it's not a rare exotic, and come 10 years old the price difference between 30k and say 50k miles will be, what £2 or 3k at most?

So I figure when you are old and at the end, you're never going to think about £2k, but you'd remember all those memories with fondness of the extra 20k miles smile
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Tickle

2,403 posts

125 months

Monday 17th July
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Looks very nice, nearly as nice as your last 111s, the greatest Elise variant ever biggrin

I only drive mine in the dry and to good roads at the crack of dawn, so it may only get a run out once a fortnight through Spring to Autumn. Totally understand you not wanting to put miles on it.


spikyone

124 posts

21 months

Monday 17th July
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Scottie - NW said:
richthebike said:
Scottie - NW said:
Just drive the damn thing and don't worry about only doing 3k miles PA!!!
You've missed the point.

Great car, lovely spec, OP has bought the car he wants for the reasons he has. Nice write up too.
The owner states he actively tries to keep the mileage down to 3k PA.

Lovely car though it is, it's not a rare exotic, and come 10 years old the price difference between 30k and say 50k miles will be, what £2 or 3k at most?

So I figure when you are old and at the end, you're never going to think about £2k, but you'd remember all those memories with fondness of the extra 20k miles smile
Even if it was a rare exotic, life's too short to let any car sit in a garage. Especially one with a petrol engine, which will have zero value if/when the rest of the world goes the same way as France (and, apparently, Germany, India, Norway, and the Netherlands) and follows that path to its (il)logical conclusion. It's a crying shame to see a driver's car not being driven.

itcaptainslow

1,712 posts

57 months

Monday 17th July
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Calm down Pistonheads-it does get driven. biggrinlaugh

It just doesn't get wasted on the boring, mundane trips like driving to work (do I really want to leave it in a station car park?) or the supermarket (the engine would pre-cook anything in the boot for you, anyway). That's what my shed is for.

I'm a believer in preserving cars for the future so they can be enjoyed for years to come. I may not do ridiculous mileage in it but pretty much every yard (apart from those driving to Bell & Colvill around the bloody M25) has been enjoyable-surely that's what matters? My inner magpie also gets all gooey over shiny stuff-much more difficult to achieve if I'm banging 10k per annum on it and using the car in all weathers. Finally, try getting a reasonable insurance deal on a daily driven Elise; they're out there, but it's much easier to insure one with limited mileage and no commuting use.

I used one of my S1's as a daily and to be honest it made the car feel less special when I went out on a Sunday morning-taking the S3 out feels pretty damn wonderful when the sun is rising, the birds are tweeting and the roads are empty. A traffic jam is not the habitat Uncle Colin saw his children living in!

Riverside Red said:
Sold my Solar yellow S3 Elise S at the end of April and loved the 18 months I had her, in the end I sold her because SWMBO had issues getting in and out and I really wanted a proper roadster. No body believes how comfortable the Elise actually was and more practical than an F-Type Jag!!!

The 981 Porsche Boxster which has replaced her is good but the steering/handling/ride combination is nowhere near as good for a B road hoon.

My car was a 2015 ex demo with 600 miles on the clock and I got a fantastic deal on it at the time, which meant I didn't lose much money when it came to selling.

Enjoy.

RR
Elises really do tick the man maths box-I've somehow managed to justify keeping mine whilst buying a house, partially thanks to the reasonable running costs and glacial depreciation. It's not quite on the scale of actually making money like most S1's at the moment (stop smirking Mr Tickle!), but residuals are holding up well despite Lotus posting some pretty impressive sales figures.

Edited by itcaptainslow on Monday 17th July 20:06

Leggy

587 posts

143 months

Monday 17th July
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itcaptainslow said:
Calm down Pistonheads-it does get driven. biggrinlaugh

It just doesn't get wasted on the boring, mundane trips like driving to work (do I really want to leave it in a station car park?) or the supermarket (the engine would pre-cook anything in the boot for you, anyway). That's what my shed is for.

I'm a believer in preserving cars for the future so they can be enjoyed for years to come. I may not do ridiculous mileage in it but pretty much every yard (apart from those driving to Bell & Colvill around the bloody M25) has been enjoyable-surely that's what matters? My inner magpie also gets all gooey over shiny stuff-much more difficult to achieve if I'm banging 10k per annum on it and using the car in all weathers. Finally, try getting a reasonable insurance deal on a daily driven Elise; they're out there, but it's much easier to insure one with limited mileage and no commuting use.

I used one of my S1's as a daily and to be honest it made the car feel less special when I went out on a Sunday morning-taking the S3 out feels pretty damn wonderful when the sun is rising, the birds are tweeting and the roads are empty. A traffic jam is not the habitat Uncle Colin saw his children living in!

Riverside Red said:
Sold my Solar yellow S3 Elise S at the end of April and loved the 18 months I had her, in the end I sold her because SWMBO had issues getting in and out and I really wanted a proper roadster. No body believes how comfortable the Elise actually was and more practical than an F-Type Jag!!!

The 981 Porsche Boxster which has replaced her is good but the steering/handling/ride combination is nowhere near as good for a B road hoon.

My car was a 2015 ex demo with 600 miles on the clock and I got a fantastic deal on it at the time, which meant I didn't lose much money when it came to selling.

Enjoy.

RR
Elises really do tick the man maths box-I've somehow managed to justify keeping mine whilst buying a house, partially thanks to the reasonable running costs and glacial depreciation. It's not quite on the scale of actually making money like most S1's at the moment (stop smirking Mr Tickle!), but residuals are holding up well despite Lotus posting some pretty impressive sales figures.

Edited by itcaptainslow on Monday 17th July 20:06
Spot on that. It would lose the magic if you drove it all the time especially as they aren't really cut out for boring commutes.

hajaba123

1,073 posts

96 months

Monday 17th July
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Leggy said:
Spot on that. It would lose the magic if you drove it all the time especially as they aren't really cut out for boring commutes.
Not so sure about that, I did 20kpa in mine for 2 years and loved every journey (even in the snow :-)

Leggy

587 posts

143 months

Tuesday 18th July
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hajaba123 said:
Leggy said:
Spot on that. It would lose the magic if you drove it all the time especially as they aren't really cut out for boring commutes.
Not so sure about that, I did 20kpa in mine for 2 years and loved every journey (even in the snow :-)
Fair play. Agree there are a few of you die hards out there. It would drive me mad if I drove mine every day.

itcaptainslow

1,712 posts

57 months

Tuesday 18th July
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hajaba123 said:
Leggy said:
Spot on that. It would lose the magic if you drove it all the time especially as they aren't really cut out for boring commutes.
Not so sure about that, I did 20kpa in mine for 2 years and loved every journey (even in the snow :-)
You're bonkers, but in a good way!

Thorburn

2,081 posts

114 months

Tuesday 18th July
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itcaptainslow said:
Calm down Pistonheads-it does get driven. biggrinlaugh

It just doesn't get wasted on the boring, mundane trips like driving to work (do I really want to leave it in a station car park?) or the supermarket (the engine would pre-cook anything in the boot for you, anyway). That's what my shed is for.
Christ, better not tell people on here that my S1 has done 2k in the last 4 years. laugh

Was my daily driver for 3 years, and much prefer it as an occasional vehicle, but life means I don't get to use it as often as I'd like at the moment. I still prefer it as a car in my garage I can get in and drive occasionally than money in my bank account though.

itcaptainslow

1,712 posts

57 months

Tuesday 18th July
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Thorburn said:
itcaptainslow said:
Calm down Pistonheads-it does get driven. biggrinlaugh

It just doesn't get wasted on the boring, mundane trips like driving to work (do I really want to leave it in a station car park?) or the supermarket (the engine would pre-cook anything in the boot for you, anyway). That's what my shed is for.
Christ, better not tell people on here that my S1 has done 2k in the last 4 years. laugh

Was my daily driver for 3 years, and much prefer it as an occasional vehicle, but life means I don't get to use it as often as I'd like at the moment. I still prefer it as a car in my garage I can get in and drive occasionally than money in my bank account though.
Appreciation on a S1 is probably twice the interest rate on a savings account at the moment, and you can't drive an ISA...

Thorburn

2,081 posts

114 months

Wednesday 19th July
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itcaptainslow said:
Appreciation on a S1 is probably twice the interest rate on a savings account at the moment, and you can't drive an ISA...
Doesn't really matter when you never plan to sell it.

itcaptainslow

1,712 posts

57 months

Wednesday 19th July
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Thorburn said:
itcaptainslow said:
Appreciation on a S1 is probably twice the interest rate on a savings account at the moment, and you can't drive an ISA...
Doesn't really matter when you never plan to sell it.
S1's are appreciating, S3's aren't...

I will never say never as domestic emergencies, unforeseen circumstances and changes of car direction mean selling a car you once thought was a keeper. Even if you're certain you'll never sell your car/house/watch/12 inch double ended dildo, it's surely got to be a better place owning something that holds its value better than something else?

Nosirromgd

1 posts

2 months

Wednesday 19th July
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I had an S2 Type 25 for 3 years. Did 40000 miles in it. Marvellous!