RE: Shed Of The Week: Ford Mondeo ST24

RE: Shed Of The Week: Ford Mondeo ST24

Friday 21st July 2017

Shed of the Week: Ford Mondeo ST24

The pictures may be rubbish, but this Mondeo has been with the same owner since 1998...



Oftentimes, a Shed will jump up and down in the PH classifieds like a puppy hoping to be rescued from the dog pound. Other times they'll sit unnoticed in a quiet corner, furkling away to themselves, ignored by all and sundry.

What we can see here looks rather good...
What we can see here looks rather good...
This week's Shed, a Mondeo ST24, is definitely a furkler. We've been eyeing it for a little while now, half expecting it to disappear before we could gather it up into our Shedly corral. Now, its moment in the sun has arrived. Well, the watery sun of Shed of the Week anyway.

Yes, it's a Mk2 Mondeo, and as such a slightly embarrassing symbol of Ford's failed $6 billion attempt at global domination. It's not the sort of car you'd buy in order to make a splash at the Henley Regatta, unless you were thinking of driving it directly into the Thames as some kind of proletarian protest. But this one is an RSAP (Rally Sport Appearance Pack) ST24 saloon, and that's rather more interesting.

There are now about 600 ST24s still running about on UK roads, which is a biggish drop from the near-1,000 that were registered alive in 2015. If you think, as some do, that this model is likely to appreciate in value, you'll want to find a clean, solid example to lay down in your temperature-controlled underground bunker - and this one could be exactly that.

Now, the ST24 is not an ST200. It has 15mm lower suspension than cooking Mondeos but it only has 168hp in its chain-driven Duratec V6, which means the sort of performance (if not the fuel economy) you'd expect from some diesel Golfs.

Lusty V6 still in fine order too
Lusty V6 still in fine order too
The good thing about this one is the provenance. The current owner bought it 19 years ago when it was just nine months old, and seems to have lavished much love on it in that time. The rich paintwork is either a credit to him or a miracle, depending on your attitude towards Fords. We're inclined to believe the first option. There seems to be a blemish on the join between the boot lid and the offside rear wing, but we're going to put that down to the marksmanship of a seagull or some other type of flying rat.

How many of you, right at this moment, are thinking RUST? Well, maybe you don't need to fret about that because last summer this car had some pretty major rust-remedial work carried out on the rear suspension, seat belt anchorage points and sills in order to get it through the MoT. He did it so you don't have to, etc.

Presumably the owner was a bit skint after that outlay, or has possibly had some bad luck in his life since then (which might explain why he's selling), because the Mondeo has done less than 2,000 miles in the 12 months between last June's MoT and this year's one, through which it gaily skipped with no advisories.

As in 1998. Which probably wasn't great then
As in 1998. Which probably wasn't great then
Keying a model name into a well known auction site is quite interesting as the Parts section will give you a snapshot as to what bits are likely to need replacing. In the Mondeo's case they're mainly the usual consumables like brake discs and shock absorbers, but things like ARB links and bushes and front lower wishbones pop up quite a lot too. Oddly, despite their amusing reputation for falling off, there aren't that many Mondeo bumpers on there at the moment, or indeed rolls of gaffer tape to fix them on with. RSAP ST24s like this one don't appear to suffer from this comedy ailment.

It's worth checking that the plastic impeller fitted to pre-2000 model water pumps has been replaced. Given the history, you'd like to think it has. There's a syndrome called 'moosing' which is a weird honking noise that generally happens at higher temperatures. The Mondeo Enthusiasts' Group can help with this. Throttle hang is another potential annoyance, and the inlet manifold runner control (IMRC) system has a reputation for melting thanks to its ingenious placement in the engine bay.

Some folk fit EGR blanking plates to ST24s. As every self-respecting PHer will know, probably, the idea of the Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve is to send exhaust gases back through the inlet manifold for a second burn, with a view to reducing emissions. Over time however the build up of unburnt fuel and oil particles can clog up the EGR valve and the inlet manifold.

Anyone got a spare Blue Oval?
Anyone got a spare Blue Oval?
Blanking off the valve doesn't just stop this clogging process, it often results in a better running and more responsive engine, albeit at the cost of higher NOX output. Not that you, as a self-respecting PHer, will care two hoots about that.

Whether you do that or not, we reckon this fully-MoT'd and welded up ST24 four-door represents pretty good value. Elsewhere on the Internet we've seen an equally clean 91,000-mile ST24 in the same colour at £1,450, and a 4,600-miler perhaps a little optimistically priced at £10,893 (gumph!). So, a bargain really.

A propos of nothing much, when a Frenchman sees a Mondeo, does he think "oh look, there's a Worldo"? Just wondering.

Here's the ad.

Rare ST24 Saloon for sale which is well above average condition.  I have owned the car for over 19 years (car was 9 months old when I purchased it) and still have all the Ford books and paperwork for any work that has been carried out on the car.  Mileage is 93k and I have original keys including the spare master.  Metallic red paintwork has a brilliant shine and is regularly polished using high quality products.   Common problem point with the sills rusting has been dealt with with both sills being replaced to a very high standard.   Interior is in immaculate condidtion with no rips or tears.  Under bonnet area and boot area is in excellent condition which shows how this car has been looked after.  Original ST24 wheels, unkerbed with good tyre tread depth.  All usual extras plus air conditioning and optional sunroof.  Serviced by Ford technician every 6k miles and all MOT's carried out by Ford main dealer.  In all this excellent ST24 (rarer than the ST220) that has been very well looked after. Inspections welcome.

 

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alorotom

Original Poster:

11,941 posts

187 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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these have aged very badly, the saloon moreso ... never driven one but cant imagine they are inspiring ... this is just very lack-luster to me

and a garage wanting over 10bags for one ... this is not an RS and not THAT desirable for a 'collector' IMHO

dollyboy

122 posts

174 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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I suppose this may be of interest to Ford fans, but I can't imagine paying more than a few hundred for something like this.

As above it's aged very badly when compared perhaps a BMW of similar age which could be purchased for similar outlay with a straight six, or even a cheap E46.

Edited by dollyboy on Friday 21st July 09:13

Butter Face

30,308 posts

160 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Still a great car. I loved the ST24 (and by extension, the ST200) back in the day.

If I were after a shed for £1k, this would be it. Cracker.

Limpet

6,310 posts

161 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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These look bloody awful, but are really good to drive.

Good shed.

TNH

559 posts

147 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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My dad had one of these for a year back in 1998 in british racing green.

I remember thinking it was absolutely bloody fantastic at the time as an 8 year old. What they are actually like I have no idea. Not sure how they only managed to squeeze 168bhp out of a 2.5 v6.

He swapped it for a ST200 which was even better.

forzaminardi

2,290 posts

187 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Seriously and bizarrely fugly car when it was new, and not improved with age. It looks in good nick though, and is probably an OK steer with a bit of go. Not one for me though.

J4CKO

41,562 posts

200 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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TNH said:
My dad had one of these for a year back in 1998 in british racing green.

I remember thinking it was absolutely bloody fantastic at the time as an 8 year old. What they are actually like I have no idea. Not sure how they only managed to squeeze 168bhp out of a 2.5 v6.

He swapped it for a ST200 which was even better.
Thats what 2.5 sixes tend to produce ?

Without turbos, superchargers or making it an utter pain in the arse to drive, back then, that was about your lot, maybe some nearer 200 but generally a lot less.

urquattroGus

1,847 posts

190 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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The hatch version always looked better than the sedan, the rear lights on the sedan are horrid.



In period I thought the hatch version looked pretty good.

MrHooky

196 posts

142 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Looks to have a pretty big dent above the ‘R’ on the rear bootlid unless that’s just the light…?

As said, the 90s curvy Ford design hasn’t aged well IMO. Although price doesn’t appear all that bad given you’re getting a cherished car. Begs the question as to why owner is selling though

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Drove an ST24... bought an ST200.

Still, for under a grand I imagine it's pretty cheap motoring.

ZX10R NIN

27,607 posts

125 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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That's a good car for the cash & it's a decent steer too.

rastapasta

1,863 posts

138 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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This car looks very well cared for alright. It would be funny if whoever bought it absolutely thrashed it.

BL Fanboy

339 posts

142 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Ok, its been done, but when you have to start replacing sills and welding seatbelt mounts the car is basically toast. Makes £1000 seem expensive. Give me an example that wants a new engine, different story.

Its 19 years old. Its a mass produced car made very cost sensitivity with cheap materials,protection and limited life. Its not a daily shed more a hobby car at that age. If it was say a 2005 mk3 then yes.

Edited by BL Fanboy on Friday 21st July 10:09

Konan

1,836 posts

146 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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dollyboy said:
I suppose this may be of interest to Ford fans, [/footnote]
It was these cars that brought my Ford fandom to an end.

Being a fan, I was looking to replace my Sierra and was after an ST200. Drove a couple of them, one for a few days and thought better of it. Bought another Sierra.

Years later, I had a loan of an ST220 which I really liked. Not sure what they managed to do between MK2 and MK3.

Raramuri

91 posts

152 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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19 years driving a mk2 Mondeo,......this guy knows how to live. rolleyes

J4CKO

41,562 posts

200 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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BL Fanboy said:
Ok, its been done, but when you have to start replacing sills and welding seatbelt mounts the car is basically toast. Makes £1000 seem expensive. Give me an example that wants a new engine, different story.
Depends how its been done really, quick bodge MOT patches covered in underseal or metal properly cut out, let in and properly protected, most classics you see will have, at some time had extensive welding

Changing an engine is probably actually more work on a V6, a front wheel drive one that will have air con and power steering stuff to move. Thats if you can find the correct one, cant imagine that unit is super common, then you get into variations, I changed an engine in the same model/year but didnt notice the flywheel was different, turns out mid model year they had reviced the ECU/immobiliser and it had a different reluctor wheel so my ecu didnt understand the signals coming from the engine and wouldnt start. It is rarely simple in reality.

MorganP104

2,605 posts

130 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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MrHooky said:
Looks to have a pretty big dent above the ‘R’ on the rear bootlid unless that’s just the light…?
Good spot - I reckon that's a dent, too.

I had the Ghia X 2.5 V6 version of this car (pretty much the same, but without the bodykit). Went well for the power available, but not the most inspiring engine note under load (certainly when compared to other sixes from BMW and Alfa Romeo).

At top money, these are unattractive cars. At shed money, they are strangely alluring!

BL Fanboy

339 posts

142 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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J4CKO said:
Depends how its been done really, quick bodge MOT patches covered in underseal or metal properly cut out, let in and properly protected, most classics you see will have, at some time had extensive welding

Changing an engine is probably actually more work on a V6, a front wheel drive one that will have air con and power steering stuff to move. Thats if you can find the correct one, cant imagine that unit is super common, then you get into variations, I changed an engine in the same model/year but didnt notice the flywheel was different, turns out mid model year they had reviced the ECU/immobiliser and it had a different reluctor wheel so my ecu didnt understand the signals coming from the engine and wouldnt start. It is rarely simple in reality.
Oh, definitely I agree. Repairs can be done well. But it puts in the realm of modern classic hobby car and sets the theme for a slide down into an ongoing weldathon. A shed in my mind is a cheap, and in PH context somewhat surprising car that makes sense for at least a couple of years at £1000. Point very well received about the engine issues you mentioned.

topless360

2,763 posts

218 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Aren't those Ghia X wheels? Seller claims in the ad they are original ST24 wheels, I'm not so sure as the ST24 wheels were 4 spoke.

Ran an ST24 Hatch back in my student days, it was fun back then but I imagine these days it would be terrible.

MorganP104

2,605 posts

130 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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topless360 said:
Aren't those Ghia X wheels? Seller claims in the ad they are original ST24 wheels, I'm not so sure as the ST24 wheels were 4 spoke.

Ran an ST24 Hatch back in my student days, it was fun back then but I imagine these days it would be terrible.
I believe the Ghia X wheels were a dealer option when new. You could have them in silver (as with this car), or finished in shiny chrome. The shiny chrome ones looked fabulous for all of five minutes, after which time they'd degrade faster than a Lancia at the bottom of the sea. laugh