45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. Vol 3
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AreOut said:
p1stonhead said:
From what I’ve been reading over the last hour, they could all be totally f
ked. Rumours are he’s going to testify that Trump himself told him to contact Russia.
it all happened after elections and they also contacted ambassadors of other 15(or so) nationsked. Rumours are he’s going to testify that Trump himself told him to contact Russia. there is also nothing illegal in Kushner initiative to delay UN voting
however it's quite possible that investigators know something more since they are trying this hard
RobDickinson said:
It happened in 2016 as part of the handover group way before the elections.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/national-security-adviser-flynn-discussed-sanctions-with-russian-ambassador-despite-denials-officials-say/2017/02/09/f85b29d6-ee11-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.4212b7987c65"National security adviser Michael Flynn privately discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia with that country’s ambassador to the United States during the month before President Trump took office, contrary to public assertions by Trump officials, current and former U.S. officials said."
WaPo is quite antitrump so I guess you'll believe them?
AreOut said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-secu...
"National security adviser Michael Flynn privately discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia with that country’s ambassador to the United States during the month before President Trump took office, contrary to public assertions by Trump officials, current and former U.S. officials said."
WaPo is quite antitrump so I guess you'll believe them?
Just out of interest, why are you so desperate to defend Trump?"National security adviser Michael Flynn privately discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia with that country’s ambassador to the United States during the month before President Trump took office, contrary to public assertions by Trump officials, current and former U.S. officials said."
WaPo is quite antitrump so I guess you'll believe them?
AreOut said:
vonuber said:
Just out of interest, why are you so desperate to defend Trump?
stating truth is desperation now?What is it about Trump that makes you want to support him?
And DON'T make the excuse that you like him because he upsets people.
Eric Mc said:
Don't answer a question with a question.
What is it about Trump that makes you want to support him?
And DON'T make the excuse that you like him because he upsets people.
I don't support him nor I feel like I would have to excuse myself even if I did. Next question.What is it about Trump that makes you want to support him?
And DON'T make the excuse that you like him because he upsets people.
Greg66 said:
That story is from February.
It’s December now. You sure it is both complete and still factual?
I didn't check the date. Do you have source that is more up to date?It’s December now. You sure it is both complete and still factual?
AreOut said:
Eric Mc said:
Don't answer a question with a question.
What is it about Trump that makes you want to support him?
And DON'T make the excuse that you like him because he upsets people.
I don't support him nor I feel like I would have to excuse myself even if I did. Next question.What is it about Trump that makes you want to support him?
And DON'T make the excuse that you like him because he upsets people.
Greg66 said:
That story is from February.
It’s December now. You sure it is both complete and still factual?
I didn't check the date. Do you have source that is more up to date?It’s December now. You sure it is both complete and still factual?
What is motivating you to post what you do?
Divilment (as my mother used tosay)?
AreOut said:
Greg66 said:
That story is from February.
It’s December now. You sure it is both complete and still factual?
I didn't check the date. Do you have source that is more up to date?It’s December now. You sure it is both complete and still factual?
Have you thought about starting with today’s news? I gather that is up to date.
Eric Mc said:
Even if it was neutral, what is the point of a neutral point in this discussion?
Umm, I really don't know how to answer this question..Greg66 said:
Oh dear. How careless of you.
Have you thought about starting with today’s news? I gather that is up to date.
I have read several. Nowhere to be seen that Trump directed Flynn to contact russian officials before elections.Have you thought about starting with today’s news? I gather that is up to date.
AreOut said:
I have read several. Nowhere to be seen that Trump directed Flynn to contact russian officials before elections.
And that is why I included the word “complete”. If you read Flynn’s indictment, you’ll see that he had been charged with making false statements - about what he did after the election - which had “a material impact on the FBI’s ongoing investigation noting the existence of any links or coordination between individuals associated with the Campaign and Russia’s efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election”.
Now why would a false statement about what was done *after* the election have a material impact on investigation electoral infliuence? Because, perhaps, it was intended to cover a trail, that leads back to the period before the election...
There are some layers to this onion. Waiting for Trump to do the wrong thing as they are peeled back is going to be part of the fun.
Greg66 said:
And that is why I included the word “complete”.
If you read Flynn’s indictment, you’ll see that he had been charged with making false statements - about what he did after the election - which had “a material impact on the FBI’s ongoing investigation noting the existence of any links or coordination between individuals associated with the Campaign and Russia’s efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election”.
Now why would a false statement about what was done *after* the election have a material impact on investigation electoral infliuence? Because, perhaps, it was intended to cover a trail, that leads back to the period before the election...
There are some layers to this onion. Waiting for Trump to do the wrong thing as they are peeled back is going to be part of the fun.
That's the key word here.If you read Flynn’s indictment, you’ll see that he had been charged with making false statements - about what he did after the election - which had “a material impact on the FBI’s ongoing investigation noting the existence of any links or coordination between individuals associated with the Campaign and Russia’s efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election”.
Now why would a false statement about what was done *after* the election have a material impact on investigation electoral infliuence? Because, perhaps, it was intended to cover a trail, that leads back to the period before the election...
There are some layers to this onion. Waiting for Trump to do the wrong thing as they are peeled back is going to be part of the fun.
AreOut said:
Greg66 said:
And that is why I included the word “complete”.
If you read Flynn’s indictment, you’ll see that he had been charged with making false statements - about what he did after the election - which had “a material impact on the FBI’s ongoing investigation noting the existence of any links or coordination between individuals associated with the Campaign and Russia’s efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election”.
Now why would a false statement about what was done *after* the election have a material impact on investigation electoral infliuence? Because, perhaps, it was intended to cover a trail, that leads back to the period before the election...
There are some layers to this onion. Waiting for Trump to do the wrong thing as they are peeled back is going to be part of the fun.
That's the key word here.If you read Flynn’s indictment, you’ll see that he had been charged with making false statements - about what he did after the election - which had “a material impact on the FBI’s ongoing investigation noting the existence of any links or coordination between individuals associated with the Campaign and Russia’s efforts to interfere with the 2016 presidential election”.
Now why would a false statement about what was done *after* the election have a material impact on investigation electoral infliuence? Because, perhaps, it was intended to cover a trail, that leads back to the period before the election...
There are some layers to this onion. Waiting for Trump to do the wrong thing as they are peeled back is going to be part of the fun.
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