RE: The last ever Lotus 340R: Spotted

RE: The last ever Lotus 340R: Spotted

Tuesday 3rd October 2017

The last ever Lotus 340R: Spotted

A unique piece of Lotus history, but is it worth as much as a 3-Eleven?



Remember the Lotus 340R? For something so wild and so mad, it doesn't seem to be mentioned all that often. Well, outside of the owner's club, that is.

Why? Not too sure, really. With the ever increasing fascination around Elise and Exige values, Series 1 cars versus Series 2 models, and just what is the best specification for each, the stratospheric rise of the 340R has largely gone unnoticed - certainly to us at least.


The 340R was always an expensive car, costing a fair bit more than both the Elise and the Exige in the early part of this century, but to see the last ever one for sale at £90,000 is still very surprising. To put it mildly.

We'll discuss that extraordinary price in the context of other Lotus products, but first we need to try and establish how it could have been arrived at. The way this thing looks must have something to do with it; the styling is still utterly bonkers 18 years after it was first revealed, so how must it have appeared at a time when the Ford Focus was deemed radical? Being a bit crazy - or distinctive, depending on perspective - often does help with residuals: look at BMW Z1s, with one car for sale at nearly £60K. Not as mad as a 340R, granted, but would it be as desirable without the daft doors?

Anyway, that goes part way to explaining the price. Another contributing factor must be the rarity. Once it was realised that a production car wasn't going to make 340hp per tonne, the 340R was limited to a 340-unit run. (Correct us if we're wrong here, Lotus aficionados). And while we're used to all manner of new and limited Lotuses being heaved out of Hethel nowadays, a limited-run lunatic Lotus was something quite special in the late 90s. There were 500 Racing Pumas weren't there, and when did you last see one of those? 340 really is quite rare, and is made to seem more so because, well, it's not exactly everyday usable. Lots were converted into race cars as well.


Moreover, it was the most extreme Elise to drive as well as to look at. It used the Very High Performance Derivative (VHPD) K Series with 190hp and a close-ratio gearbox; motivating just 700kg - or even less, depending on who you ask - the 340R was said to be capable of 60mph in less than 4.5 seconds and 100 in less than 11. For a car with five manual gears, two wheel drive and not all that much power, that's seriously rapid.

Finally, like so much else that doesn't seem all that old, it's made to look all the more exciting by the march of 21st century automotive progress. A base Elise is now more than 900kg with a plain Toyota 1.6, and where else would you look for lightweight mid-engined thrills? However raw and intense a 340R would have seemed in 2001 will be ramped up markedly now.

Can that really make it worth £90K? Dunno. When even a 3-Eleven is cheaper, the case might be a bit difficult to make to all but the most ardent Lotus collector. The most expensive Elise on PH is £25K. And really nice S2 Exiges are £30,000. But then a 340R has never been about rational decisions, has it? The world would be a duller place without it, and the world of whoever buys it will be immeasurably brighter for it - when you're spending this much money, sometimes that's the most important factor of all.


LOTUS 340R
Engine
: 1,796cc, four-cylinder
Transmission: five-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 180@7,800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 126@5,000rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
First registered: 2004
Recorded mileage: 2,900miles
Price new: £35,000
Yours for: £89,500

See the original advert here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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WCZ

Original Poster:

10,526 posts

194 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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nice but would expect original condition for that mileage and price

cib24

1,117 posts

153 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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Really cool car but at the same time I think it's one of the ugliest track day cars I have ever seen!

I would totally drive it.

morgs_

1,663 posts

187 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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My overriding and vivid memory is of one spinning in front of my dad and I on a mixed conditions Castle Combe Lotus day.

I'm not sure who had the least clean underwear after, the 340R driver or my old man hehe

HeMightBeBanned

617 posts

178 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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The value of these cars has gone through the roof since May this year, when a (shabby) example sold for £69k at a Bonhams auction. Since then, a couple have sold on the Continent - reputedly for >€90k each. A couple of months ago, a UK example was advertised for £69k on Pistonheads then a few days later revised upwards to £79k and then marked as sold a week later.

They're amazing to drive - so much more responsive and agile than an Elise that you can't believe it's based on the same platform. With a good 190bhp map (courtesy of an Emerald ECU) and a pair of Verniers to properly time the cams, the engine is tractable and a joy to use. The induction noise is utterly spine-tingling.

I love mine. It's much nicer than the one in the advert, too wink

chickensoup

469 posts

255 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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not really the last one produced, rather the last one road registered

Dont think they made 340, as I dont think there were 340 buyers!, but there were more than 203, so not the last

every lotus model is fairly rare by mondeo standards anyway

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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Strong money given it doesn't look quite on point in terms of being properly correct in specification.

S1 Exiges have gone up a lot in recent years too. And rightly so in my opinion - these cars are super rare and aren't going to be repeated given where we are with legislation these days.

i was looking for an Elise 190 but didnt realise they were actually never really 'official' road cars. Dean Lanzante - who looks after all those nice McLaren F1 and P1s - has a mint one, as well as a Motorsport Elise. Very jealous!

HeMightBeBanned

617 posts

178 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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hondansx said:
Strong money given it doesn't look quite on point in terms of being properly correct in specification.

S1 Exiges have gone up a lot in recent years too. And rightly so in my opinion - these cars are super rare and aren't going to be repeated given where we are with legislation these days.

i was looking for an Elise 190 but didnt realise they were actually never really 'official' road cars. Dean Lanzante - who looks after all those nice McLaren F1 and P1s - has a mint one, as well as a Motorsport Elise. Very jealous!
S1 Exiges are practically common compared with the 340R, as Lotus made just under 700 of them biggrin

Robmarriott

2,638 posts

158 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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I've only ever seen one in the wild and it was Harry Metcalfe's, he used to use it to nip to the local shop when Evo was at it's old office (and he was still there) must have been more practical than the Zonda...

MikeGalos

261 posts

284 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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When the 340R came out there was a program in the US where you could import cars to the US that weren't certified for road use here if they were technologically or historically interesting and if the factory never sold any in the US.
I placed an order for one with a UK dealership, put down a deposit and started on the program paperwork and arranging shipping.
Then Lotus decided to import ten of them for track-only use and they no longer qualified.
And thus ended my plans for having the only street-legal Lotus 340R in the US.

huckster6

245 posts

217 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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cib24 said:
Really cool car but at the same time I think it's one of the ugliest track day cars I have ever seen!

I would totally drive it.
Soooo ugly, and pointless. You'd have a much more exhilarating experience on any motorcycle.

flyingscot68

241 posts

139 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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huckster6 said:
Soooo ugly, and pointless. You'd have a much more exhilarating experience on any motorcycle.
I doubt you've ever driven one or anything similar or you wouldn't be saying that.

Lightweight cars like this are amazing to drive on road and track, so involving and entertaining - every bit as much fun as a 200bhp sportsbike nevermind 'any motorcycle'

That said, I'm not a fan of the looks and for the money this one is advertised at there's plenty other machinery out there for half the price that's just as much fun.

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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huckster6 said:
Soooo ugly, and pointless. You'd have a much more exhilarating experience on any motorcycle.
Each to their own. Motorbikes have never really appealed, but I would love one of these. I was lucky enough to have use of a 2-Eleven for a couple of weeks; mental fun.

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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I get that a bike gives the same exposure to the elements for far less, but then a car is far more accessible. You can exploit them in a way which even an experienced biker wouldn't dare do on their R6...

Anyway, appears there is at least one 340R in the States!
https://www.motor1.com/news/77874/this-rare-lotus-...

I think the 2-11 is a very cool car - they look nuts on the track. My view of them is tarnished racing against them in Lotus Cup though - not quite as nimble as the earllier Elise iterations and that Toyota engine can not cope being tuned; way more temperamental than a K Series!

Cold

15,247 posts

90 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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It's a shame that one has been messed about with. They look better in their standard spec.

jenkosrugby

76 posts

220 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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You would need to be clinically insane to pay 1/2 of that price....Interesting car..... granted

HeMightBeBanned

617 posts

178 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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jenkosrugby said:
You would need to be clinically insane to pay 1/2 of that price....Interesting car..... granted
Based in recent sales, clinical insanity must be catching.

Marwood79

209 posts

187 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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So the question is will the same happen to 2-11 values?

Q Car

138 posts

190 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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That's a lot of money. I think if I was after a bonkers, wind in yer face lightweight special, I'd be looking at something from Ariel or KTM for a fraction of the price?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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cib24 said:
Soooo ugly, and pointless. You'd have a much more exhilarating experience on any motorcycle.
Haha why does a motorcyclist with a chip on their shoulder always pop up on threads like these and say that motorbikes are more fun? Well if we're in that game I'll wager that my mates aerobatic plane is way more fun than any motorbikebike. Some NASA astronaut will be along shortly no doubt to say that his latest space shuttle launch was way more exciting than any stunt plane. But it's not really relevant is it as in this thread we're talking about cars, not bikes or planes or spacecraft!!!

I used to ride bikes but now drive an Elise. With the top down I find my Elise way more fun on a twisty road than my old motorbikes without the added feeling that I might die if I even so much as clip a greasy manhole cover. In the Elise not only do I no longer have to wear uncomfortable, sweaty leathers and a stuffy, tight fitting helmet - meaning I now get to feel the wind in my hair, but I can now take the wife along too for even more fun. Some of the stuff she's been able to do whilst parked up in the Elise (with the top up), you'd never get away with on a motorcycle wink I'm sure this 340R would be even more fun.

vincegail

2,465 posts

155 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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MikeGalos said:
When the 340R came out there was a program in the US where you could import cars to the US that weren't certified for road use here if they were technologically or historically interesting and if the factory never sold any in the US.
I placed an order for one with a UK dealership, put down a deposit and started on the program paperwork and arranging shipping.
Then Lotus decided to import ten of them for track-only use and they no longer qualified.
And thus ended my plans for having the only street-legal Lotus 340R in the US.
Well that sucks. Thank you Lotus.



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