RE: PH Service History: Big Cat Diary

RE: PH Service History: Big Cat Diary

Saturday 14th October 2017

PH Service History: Big Cat Diary

The F-Type's all good and well, but Alex been pining for a different kind of Jaguar sports car



Whither the Jaguar XK? It seems like just a few years ago that we were excited about the launch of Jaguar's new coupe, with its aluminium bodywork and mesmerising lines. As a replacement for the ageing XK8, it hit the spot perfectly, crisping up the older model's more rounded edges and replacing its olde-worlde interior with something rather more modern.

Racy is available if you want. Alex doesn't
Racy is available if you want. Alex doesn't
But in 2014, production came to an end, just as the F-Type Coupe came into being. Don't read too much into that, though. "The F-Type was never meant to kill the XK," said Ian Callum in a recent interview with Autocar, adding that having both an F-Type and an XK in the range was "always the plan".

A replacement, then, is on the cards - albeit a little way off, meaning lovers of grand tourers like me will have to wait longer. How tedious. If you're impatient, like me, you might be tempted to take the plunge on a late example of the last-generation model. Oh, sure, these feel a little dated now, but they're still just as comfortable and satisfying to drive as they were when they were released; indeed, there are few grand tourers that combine such elegant looks with such comfort - not to mention, such accessible prices.

OK, so if you want something new-ish, you'll still need to stump up quite a bit of cash. £37K, for example, gets you into this admittedly very tasteful 2013 Portfolio, with just 16,000 miles and a full history. But that feels a bit steep when an XKR with barely any more miles can be had for similar money - assuming you're willing to settle for something a couple of years older.

But this, this is much more like it
But this, this is much more like it
But it's further down the age and price range that the XK starts to make more sense. Early 4.2-litre examples can now be had for well shy of £15,000, which seems to me like a lot of car for the cash. However, I'd stretch myself a little more to get hold of one of the first 5.0-litre cars; this one, with reasonable miles and a promising-sounding history, is nibbling its way south of £20,000.

The advantage of going for one of these XKs is that you get the significantly improved AJ133 engine that later formed the basis of the cracklingly angry lump sitting in the nose of the F-TypeSVR. Of course, here it's rather tamer; nevertheless, 385hp is not to be sniffed at, and while the XK is still a bit of a slusher, that 62mph comes up in just 5.2 seconds suggests it's still quick enough to provide plenty of entertainment. It sounds better than the older 4.2, too.

Still too rich for your blood? How about an earlier XK8, then? I'm a bit biased here, as an XK8 was the first half-decent car my old man bought, but I think they're pretty cars despite that slightly lumpy back end. And while, of course an '8 is not as quick or as good to drive as the later cars, it's still a lovely old tourer, with that 'Spitfire wing' slab of wood giving the interior the impression of an old country pub.

Or for just £5,000...
Or for just £5,000...
£5,000 gets you a decent-looking example; in my book, that's a bit of a bargain right now, as it can't be too long before the numbers thin to such an extent that the values start to climb again.

The Jaguar XK, then, is alive and well in the classifieds. And while none of these iterations will give you the last word in handling dynamics, all of them have an appeal that only a big Jag can offer. Fingers crossed the same can be said of the new one (and, ahem, that it depreciates quickly enough that we can all afford one soon).

Alex

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Notanotherturbo

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494 posts

207 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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The F Type is a completely different kind of car. I bought one of the last 4.2 XKRs about a year ago and love it. As a quick , pretty and comfortable tourer it's almost unbeatable even against new cars. My only criticism is the nav/phone interface is terrible, but I don't use it as a daily so not so much of an issue. I considered everything available in my price range and it came down to the Jag or a leggy Continental which I ruled out on running costs. Quicker than an AM Vantage and much more comfortable, prettier and more charismatic than the German rivals. A few gratuitous pics :0)






69.9mph

42 posts

228 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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Nice write up of a great car. Not sure about the accuracy of this comment though: "And while none of these iterations will give you the last word in handling dynamics".

The ride/handling were well praised by contemporary reviews, for example EVO said this "The XKR feels a little edgier and harder than the XFR but still rides with great composure. Turn-in has real bite and conviction, mid-bend responses are beautifully clean and crisp and damping control is simply sublime. Equally impressive is the transient behaviour. The intestinal S-bends that characterize the CA9104 between Grazalema and Zahara present no problem at all; the Jaguar shifts its weight with the lithe precision of a world-class downhill skiier".




alpha channel

1,387 posts

162 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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I have to say the handling and ride are pretty damned good considering how big the old girls are. They are a tad on the big side for the roads around me but right now aside from an Elise S2 (VVC engined version for preference) I can't think of another car I'd replace mine with (a boggo standard '06 plate XK). The ride, on the 20" Senta alloys, far exceeds that of the 159Ti (on 18" alloys) that preceded it.

I love the interior colour combo, which, aside from the lower than average mileage, is what sold this particular XK to me.

Aside from size the only downsides I have is the cost of tyres (expected considering the size) and the number of bell ends wanting to race (expected from the hot hatch brigade including a resident Mini Cooper).




unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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Arguably one of the best used car purchases. Not exactly cheap to acquire or maintain, but a lot of value for money.

For me, the key is the timeless design: even after the better part of 10 years, the overall look remains pleasing and classical.




andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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I recently sold my XK8 which I had for over five years and took to 176K miles (it was the "Readers Ride" in the same issue of Autocar as the Ian Callum interview mentioned in the blog) and loved but for a few issues which were occassionally expensive. I'm looking for a 5.0 Portfolio to replace it with but haven't found the right combination of colour, spec and price so far - I know it is out there and fortunately I'm not in a desperate rush but would be very happy if it comes up for sale soon!

Mr Tidy

22,327 posts

127 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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Every time I see one I can't help thinking how good they look!

If I have a problem with them it is their size - they are big for a 2-seater! (And there was never a manual option). frown

johnnnnnnyy

231 posts

190 months

Saturday 14th October 2017
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I really miss mine, and looking again at them.

I did a few modifications and takes if from being a gentleman cruiser to a British brute. Also changed the exhaust to let that V8 breath (tastefully) and the burble and roar was on par with my Corvette. Amazing car.

This was her:

Notanotherturbo

Original Poster:

494 posts

207 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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Mr Tidy said:
Every time I see one I can't help thinking how good they look!

If I have a problem with them it is their size - they are big for a 2-seater! (And there was never a manual option). frown
They aren't that big, my E24 6 series is longer and feels much bigger on the road. I know it is a cliché but it is one of those cars that shrinks round you.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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Notanotherturbo said:
They aren't that big, my E24 6 series is longer and feels much bigger on the road. I know it is a cliché but it is one of those cars that shrinks round you.
The 6 series is a four seater with a fairly decent sized boot though.

Notanotherturbo

Original Poster:

494 posts

207 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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Mr2Mike said:
The 6 series is a four seater with a fairly decent sized boot though.
Boot is about 50% bigger , rear seats pointless in both cars unless you have very small children.

HannsG

3,045 posts

134 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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Can a tall 4 year old and 1 year old fit in the back?

MegaCat

191 posts

140 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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I had 2 XKR Convertible, '11 and then '13 plates. Both brilliant in every way, loads of space, great noise, cheap to run except fuel - average 23mpg! We did great trips around the NW500 and to the Dolomites and Alps, as well as the A470 from Cardiff to Llandudno. If they had still made them I would have bought another this year. I had to console myself with an Alfa, brilliant but no convertible frown

Notanotherturbo

Original Poster:

494 posts

207 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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HannsG said:
Can a tall 4 year old and 1 year old fit in the back?
I have no idea - I don't allow children in any of my nice cars :0).

MegaCat

191 posts

140 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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HannsG said:
Can a tall 4 year old and 1 year old fit in the back?
Depends on the height of the driver & front seat passenger - i'd generally refer to it as a 2+1, but i'm 6'1" - so maybe.

HannsG

3,045 posts

134 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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Notanotherturbo said:
I have no idea - I don't allow children in any of my nice cars :0).
Really? What's the point if you can't enjoy it with the little ones and see them shriek with delight when the pedal goes to the metal.

Scottie - NW

1,288 posts

233 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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HannsG said:
Notanotherturbo said:
I have no idea - I don't allow children in any of my nice cars :0).
Really? What's the point if you can't enjoy it with the little ones and see them shriek with delight when the pedal goes to the metal.
Exactly, and when they are young and you need to bed in your new 8 pot brakes for track they love the fast and slow game smile

drssg121

50 posts

98 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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I bought a 2009 5.0 xkr 2 years ago. At the time I looked at a few options (early v8 vantage, gran tourismo, m6, 911 carrera 2s) but this had the best blend of performance, style and that dual personality that I was hankering for.
I have mine maintained by Trevor at jag spares at Sydenham and I have not spent a penny outside consumables (services b 350, a 450) barring an active spires exhaust which despite being a tad expensive really brings a sense of theatre and occasion to those weekend drives. Fuel 27 mpg on a run about 18-20 around town not too bad at all.
As for space my 5 year old niece and 7 year old nephew fitted no problem in the back I am 5”10.
Initially I never thought I would see myself in a jag in my late twenties but whoever is even thinking about getting one I cannot recommend them enough.

Notanotherturbo

Original Poster:

494 posts

207 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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HannsG said:
Really? What's the point if you can't enjoy it with the little ones and see them shriek with delight when the pedal goes to the metal.
Hi have no little ones, or big ones for that matter. My cars have become my surrogate children. Quite similar - expensive, rewarding and frustrating in roughly equal measure :0)

LewisR

678 posts

215 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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MegaCat said:
~ cheap to run except fuel - average 23mpg! ~
That's not bad !
Most desirable cars will do about that, as will most classic cars... if you're lucky.

Dempsey1971

383 posts

170 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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HannsG said:
Can a tall 4 year old and 1 year old fit in the back?
Yes, with ease. My two 9 year olds fit in the back no problem, and I'm 6'2". My 11 year old is beginning to struggle if sat behind me.

And mine is a convertible, so smaller in the back.