Sunken Dining area - how hard to do?

Sunken Dining area - how hard to do?

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wjwren

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148 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I have a shed at the top of the garden that is now old and needs pulling down. I was thinking of putting some kind of dining area in, but the groud is higher there, so likely to be less private. I also like the idea of doing something different. So any pointers in doing something like this and has anyone else done similar? I like the idea of a patio heater built in to the wall.



wjwren

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Thursday 11th January 2018
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B17NNS

18,506 posts

260 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Quite straight forward. You just need to think about drainage. Also I'd be tempted to tank the blockwork soil side to stop moisture passing through and spoiling your monocouche. I really like sunken gardens.

wjwren

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4,484 posts

148 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Any pointers on drainage? Still unsure whether to have a seating area or just dining. I like the idea of a firepit as well. Too many choices!

KAgantua

4,534 posts

144 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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in the uk?

anonymous-user

67 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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KAgantua said:
in the uk?
Will be an excellent way to collect leaves and other detritus.

21TonyK

12,297 posts

222 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Inkyfingers said:
KAgantua said:
in the uk?
Will be an excellent way to collect leaves and other detritus.
And without really good drainage it will become a small decorative pond in the winter.

Herbs

4,980 posts

242 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Do you have any photo's of your garden?

They look great BUT have to be done in a certain way. For example the picture you used above, it isn't actually sunken - its the same height or even higher than the lawn and they have built up the decking approach to make it appear sunken. This is exactly what I would do to achieve that effect, trying to build something into the water table is going to be fraught with problems and drive you potty when it collects water, leaves , dirt etc.

PS go for one with a fire pit.

Uggers

2,224 posts

224 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Would it not be worth using a solid cover to go over the dining area? Have it hinged and held up against a fence when in use so it blends in?

All the ideas of sump pumps, soakaways etc is solving a problem that wouldn't exist if it is covered.

B17NNS

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260 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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wjwren said:
Any pointers on drainage? Still unsure whether to have a seating area or just dining. I like the idea of a firepit as well. Too many choices!
Find your nearest inspection chamber and see how deep it is. If it's deeper than your sunken seating area you may be able to use that. Failing that it's as above, a soakaway or a sump pump.

http://www.pavingexpert.com/drain08.html

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

209 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Herbs said:
Do you have any photo's of your garden?

They look great BUT have to be done in a certain way. For example the picture you used above, it isn't actually sunken - its the same height or even higher than the lawn and they have built up the decking approach to make it appear sunken. This is exactly what I would do to achieve that effect, trying to build something into the water table is going to be fraught with problems and drive you potty when it collects water, leaves , dirt etc.

PS go for one with a fire pit.
I hate garden design so don't take my view as gospel but I'd imagine this ^^^ Make it appear sunken, but not actually sunken!

Unless you live in somewhere that isn't the uk. We might be able to get away with it on parts of our land as we're built on sand but even then you'd have to seriously consider water run off etc. Interested to see it if you go forward with it though...

PositronicRay

27,905 posts

196 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Based on a sloping garden and a patio "terraced" into the bottom bit by the house I'd say don't bother.

Drainage is a pain, sweeping it and picking up the crap is a pain, algae is pain, cleaning is pain. Everything takes twice as long, and nothing runs away properly.

Elevate your paved areas. wink

wjwren

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148 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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After reading the replies and thinking about it ive knocked it on the head. Too much hassle, the drainage will be an issue, heavy clay here as well. I think something like this will be a lot easier.

Something similar to this, but made from something more substantial.


wjwren

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148 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Following on from above, what about this as a DIY? I like the idea of built in log burner. Looks great.



Edited by wjwren on Sunday 14th January 19:05

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

209 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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wjwren said:
Following on from above, what about this as a DIY? I like the idea of built in log burner. Looks great.



Edited by wjwren on Sunday 14th January 19:05
Well it looks expensive and to be honest, a huge carbuncle in the garden (honestly-sorry)!

I can't see what it would achieve over a proper garden room with bi-folds? In fact a proper garden room could at least be used all year round.

Hol

9,004 posts

213 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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wjwren said:
Following on from above, what about this as a DIY? I like the idea of built in log burner. Looks great.



Edited by wjwren on Sunday 14th January 19:05
I like that.
Next house, if I have the room, I might look to do something along those lines.

Macneil

970 posts

93 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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wjwren said:
Following on from above, what about this as a DIY? I like the idea of built in log burner. Looks great.



Edited by wjwren on Sunday 14th January 19:05
It looks like a crematorium.

Bill

55,414 posts

268 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Macneil said:
It looks like a crematorium.
hehe

Next door looks like a suburban bungalow so it isn't really in keeping. On a cliff top in Majorca, great. UK suburbia? Not so much.

Condi

18,604 posts

184 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Garden things sound great, and work really well in places which arnt the UK.... here they get all dirty and you'll not get round to maintaining them, and then when it is warm and sunny enough you wont want to do the work they need, and so they never get used.

In Spain, Australia or Jamaica - fantastic and used daily.

In the UK - waste of money and effort.