RE: Citroen confirms new large saloon for production
Wednesday 17th January 2018
File this particular news story under "didn't see it coming". But, according to our colleagues at Autocar, Citroen will launch a new large saloon in the next couple of years. And who doesn't love a big French four-door?
But we admire a large French saloon as much as anyone else, particularly with such previous highlights as the Peugeot 605 and Renault 25, plus Citroen's own C6 and CX. The news is particularly exciting with the admission from Jackson that the new model will be inspired by the very suave CXperience concept of Paris 2016. "Like all concept cars, it was made to test reaction, and the car will evolve. But - and I know I'm biased - I loved it. It will inspire the production car and it gave a view of a luxury flagship without any of the traditional cues of chrome, leather or lacquered wood."
The new 'Advanced Comfort' suspension is already being suggested for whatever the Citroen saloon is; combine that with an electrified powertrain and you have the potential for a really refined cruiser. There could be both a four- and five-seat layout, one emphasising luxury and the other practicality. Bring those together with some expensive interior materials and whatever technology people will need to be connected to in 2020 and you have the makings of a very desirable Citroen. That nobody in Europe will probably want. But can we have a few here anyway, though? Please?
Citroen confirms new large saloon for production
Joint replacement for C5/C6 will happen, says CEO - time to dig out the XM press shots!
The news comes from an interview with Citroen CEO Linda Jackson, who stated that such a model "is a crucial part of being a big manufacturer." Moreover, it's crucial for success in China, Citroen's second-biggest market and, as we know, firm fans of the saloon car. BMW makes a 2 Series saloon just for China, don't forget.
While the news may come as something of a surprise for Europeans - D-segment saloons have been perhaps the biggest victim of the SUV craze - the commitment to a production car derived from the CXperience shows Citroen's commitment to China. Naturally we know little about it now, so let's hope Citroen is open to some suggestions...
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[Source: Autocar]
Discussion
Seeing a XM brings back memory’s. My dad had one after a run of Audi’s. I begged him to buy an Alfa 164 v6 but we ended up with a light green XM. It was a supremely comfortable and modern looking thing. Very quiet and great on a road trip we did from Calais to Denmark non stop (only for fuel)
Turbobanana said:
“And who doesn't love a big French four-door?”
We don’t. The UK. We’re German car obsessed and have been for decades. This will bomb, just like every other large French car does.
Doesn’t mean it’s bad: XM & C6 were fantastic, but when did you last see one?
I actually don’t think Citroen will bother bringing it to the UK. Our loss but who can blame them.We don’t. The UK. We’re German car obsessed and have been for decades. This will bomb, just like every other large French car does.
Doesn’t mean it’s bad: XM & C6 were fantastic, but when did you last see one?
TooMany2cvs said:
The ridiculous thing is that all the hard bit is already done. It'd just be a case of RHD dash mouldings, really.
Unfortunately, I suspect you're right.
Just..... LHD to RHD is a massive job in Engineering alone... Then there's the cost of crash test, homolgation etc.... Almost another car tbh.Unfortunately, I suspect you're right.
Cant see them bringing it here
Ex X Power said:
TooMany2cvs said:
The ridiculous thing is that all the hard bit is already done. It'd just be a case of RHD dash mouldings, really.
Unfortunately, I suspect you're right.
Just..... LHD to RHD is a massive job in Engineering alone... Then there's the cost of crash test, homolgation etc.... Almost another car tbh.Unfortunately, I suspect you're right.
Cant see them bringing it here
All the brand-specific external panelwork will be fully UNECE type-approved.
So...?
TooMany2cvs said:
Ex X Power said:
TooMany2cvs said:
The ridiculous thing is that all the hard bit is already done. It'd just be a case of RHD dash mouldings, really.
Unfortunately, I suspect you're right.
Just..... LHD to RHD is a massive job in Engineering alone... Then there's the cost of crash test, homolgation etc.... Almost another car tbh.Unfortunately, I suspect you're right.
Cant see them bringing it here
All the brand-specific external panelwork will be fully UNECE type-approved.
So...?
Ah yes ,had an XM company car back then , very comfortable, long distance car with good boot space .lots of Alcantara trim inside. Had it from New but broke down twice in first year , and kept the local dealer happy in warranty claims. Great car , fond memories driving to Spain , but didn’t like to work for its living .
8V085 said:
As much as I love big hydropneumatic Citroen's C6 is one of those ones I wouldn't want to own unless it was brand new and for as long as the manufacturer's warranty was in place. Unfortunately they killed it before I had a chance.
I'll second that. I've never owned a big Citroen (hell, the largest Gallic wagon that's passed through my hands was a 205 XS...) but that doesn't mean I haven't given serious thought to taking the plunge.Now, I'm certain that there are good ones out there and that owners could wax lyrical all day about the style, the comfort and the sense of...I dunno...'otherness' that driving such a beast provided them.
It's just that I'm equally certain those folk would have owned their cars from new, punting them on just before the warranties expired.
Now the C6 (didn't one feature in a PH article the other week?) has begun it's inexorable spiral down the food chain, I could probably find a superficially good example without too much hassle. I'd then sit back and wait for the suspension to play tricks on me and for the electrics to defy the laws of physics, problems which couldn't be fixed unless I set up a standing order with the local Citroen dealership. Perhaps not even then...
It is with a heavy heart that I must resign myself to being content with the odd sighting of an XM or even a Renault Vel Satis (equally idiosyncratic in it's way) and to dream about what could be.
I hope that Citroen decides to sell this car in the UK but I'm not banking on it.
Muddle238 said:
I'm sure they will sell it in the UK, given that the C5 wasn't a total flop. Ok so the C6 was really more of an enthusiasts car, you were unlikely to accidentally just end up with one however the X7 C5 is a relatively common sight still.
C5 was offered through MotabilityBrilliant, happy to hear this. A big Citroen is always a special thing. I hope it has a unique character offering something that no other car in the class can without being contrived (a la the DS series). Magic carpet ride goes without saying, fresh individualistic styling and good packaging (the rear suicide doors would be good) should all be part of that. No need to try and compete as a drivers car, but this thing needs to be the most comfortable thing in its class, and a few classes up!
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