RE: Ferrari GTC4 Lusso T: Driven

RE: Ferrari GTC4 Lusso T: Driven

Saturday 17th February 2018

Ferrari GTC4 Lusso T | UK Review

Ferrari's esoteric GT swaps V12 for V8 and goes rear-wheel drive only - is it the one to have?



Sometimes driving a Ferrari is a wonderful experience: the roads are clear, the weather is fine, and the car is a perfect reminder that, beyond the theme parks and the aftershave, Ferrari still makes the best supercars around.

Sometimes, though, driving a Ferrari is anything but joyous. Sometimes it's a wet and windy Wednesday, sometimes there's an Astra TwinTop holding you up on the A286, and sometimes it's a drive conducted almost entirely in the dark. Then you have to back up at the petrol station because that pump doesn't have super unleaded and the man in the Yaris is very cross. Oh, how the other half live...

That said, these are the sort of scenarios that a GTC4 Lusso should be dealing with, even if this V8 is aimed at a younger demographic than the V12; after all, until the 'FUV' arrives, this is the everyday Ferrari, the practical Ferrari, the take it to the shops Ferrari. Indeed, on the launch of the V12 GTC4 it was proclaimed that FF owners were using their cars more than any other Maranello product in history, so broad was its range of abilities and so well-suited was a 660hp 4WD Ferrari to many people.


So what is this car? It's a GTC4 Lusso T, the 'T' for turbo and the '4' denoting four seats, and not four-wheel drive: this car is rear-driven (with the weight balance shifted slightly back as a result), and uses the 3.9-litre twin-turbo V8 also found in the 488 and Portofino. Just the thing for five degrees in February...

But here's a secret confession: your humble correspondent, in a classic case of preparing to fail, had forgotten that the Lusso T dropped two driven wheels along with the four cylinders. And you know what? In the best way possible, the car still felt four-wheel drive, such was its traction, composure and assurance in foul conditions.

Even allowing for the advantages of Pirelli Sottozero winter rubber (235-section front, 285-section rear), the amount of performance it lets you access when everything suggests it shouldn't is just remarkable. The Lusso is a five-metre long, 1,800kg, £250k car with more than 600hp, yet it engenders huge confidence from the off, feeling for all the world like something less potent.


How does it do this? The four-wheel steering will of course contribute, darting the GTC4 into bends without hesitation. There feels to be a shorter acclimatisation period with the super sharp wheel response too, everything more in tune and fluid than it's ever seemed before. Though that could of course be greater familiarisation with how Ferraris drive nowadays. The damping is fabulous as well, 'Bumpy Road' doing exactly what you would hope and keeping your Ferrari totally planted on even the worst surfaces. There isn't an ounce of slack in anything, yet the car doesn't feel frenzied or flighty; rather it's alive and totally responsive, despite the gargantuan size, which is just how you would want your 200mph Ferrari to be.

Truth be told, that was applicable with the V12 car too, and what made it so incredible. What's most surprising, as has been alluded to, is just how little the switch to rear-wheel drive has undermined the GTC's appeal as an everyday prospect. Despite having more torque than the 6.3-litre version, the Lusso T doesn't squander a jot, even in the worst conditions, right up to the point you go searching for where that limit is, because it must be somewhere... Even then there's little to fear, the traction control's intervention subtle yet eminently more helpful than the driver's. And that sort of sensation doesn't happen in the V12. When the feeling is this accessible, too, with such immediate responses and superbly calibrated systems, it's a joy to have.

It says a lot for just how well sorted a rear-wheel drive GTC4 is that the switch to a V8 could well be the more contentious issue. Can the angry, fizzing blare of a flat-plane turbo V8 really compare with a howling V12? What will it be like with less power? Is the fuel consumption improved?


A mixed bag sounds like damning the Lusso T with faint praise, if only for the simple fact that the bar is set so damn high. Certainly there can be no qualms about performance, the GTC still feeling tremendously, shockingly fast even in the world of the 600hp 5 Series; more than that it's exciting, too, the performance building and building in a manner unfamiliar to most turbocharged engines, rewarding you for eking out as many revs as you dare. As always the engine is paired to a totally flawless dual-clutch transmission, and will happily sit at far fewer revs (with the manettino turned left) when your driving needs to be more docile.

Is the fact a turbocharged V8 doesn't sound as fabulous as an atmospheric V12 really a valid criticism? Probably not, although if you're spending £200,000 on a car you're entitled to expect the very best. 'Fascinating' best describes that V8, an intriguing combination of gurgling turbos and race car scream that's really like nothing else. It's not the classic, V8 rumble that you might expect from a GT, although the GTC really isn't what you might expect of a regular grand tourer... Hand on heart we'd probably still have the V12... just, which is kind of where the Lusso T's problem lies.

It's an utterly fabulous car, be in no doubt: more capable than anything similar you care to think of, more desirable and more exciting. Despite the size it really is something you can feel comfortable in at any speed, and enjoy at any speed too (even if that is 38mph behind that bloody Astra). As an object, as a driver's car and as a Ferrari, the GTC4 Lusso T should be considered a success; it's simply that the V12 fulfils those criteria even more emphatically, sufficiently more so to justify its £30k premium. While Ferrari must be applauded for broadening the GTC's scope for other markets without diluting its appeal, the V12 should be celebrated and embraced for as long as possible. The V8 is a superb understudy, mirroring the talents of the existing model while also adding that rear-wheel drive dimension, but the V12 remains the pick of a fairly sensational pair.


SPECIFICATION - FERRARI GTC4 LUSSO T

Engine: 3,855cc, twin-turbocharged V8
Transmission: seven-speed dual-clutch automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 610@7,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 561@3,000-5,250rpm
0-62mph: 3.5sec
Top speed: 200mph+
Weight: 1,865kg
MPG: 24.4
CO2: 265g/km
Price: £199,285

 

 

 

 

 

 

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xjay1337

Original Poster:

15,966 posts

118 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Not the best colour but the car looks really on point.

bloomen

6,891 posts

159 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Why does it have to be so huuuuuge?

Something like this that was in the same ballpark size wise as a Scirocco or something would be the world's most desirable everyday car. When it's this magnitude it's just not usable enough especially in Lilliputian Britain.

xjay1337

Original Poster:

15,966 posts

118 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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bloomen said:
Why does it have to be so huuuuuge?

Something like this that was in the same ballpark size wise as a Scirocco or something would be the world's most desirable everyday car. When it's this magnitude it's just not usable enough especially in Lilliputian Britain.
I can see your point.

But would you spend say £120k on a car the same size as a hatch back?

bloomen

6,891 posts

159 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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xjay1337 said:
I can see your point.

But would you spend say £120k on a car the same size as a hatch back?
Absolutely. That would probably seal the sale for me. And a Scirocco is not really a small car by any means.

I had a good look over a Nissan Gtr a while back. I rejected the idea mainly because of the ridiculous bloat. I can't park it comfortably anywhere and it'll barely fit down most of the roads I bomb down.

tubs

73 posts

207 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Does it come in Black..........

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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The displacement is just beneath 4.0 litres -- the threshold beyond which China applies a 20 percent tax, IIRC.

Handsome car. And the rear seats appear to have sufficient room for actual adults.

Other OEMs should take note of the elegant yet incredibly simple wing vents behind the front wheels.

RSchneider

215 posts

164 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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bloomen said:
Why does it have to be so huuuuuge?

Something like this that was in the same ballpark size wise as a Scirocco or something would be the world's most desirable everyday car. When it's this magnitude it's just not usable enough especially in Lilliputian Britain.
So it's BMW M140i then ...

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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bloomen said:
Why does it have to be so huuuuuge?

Something like this that was in the same ballpark size wise as a Scirocco or something would be the world's most desirable everyday car. When it's this magnitude it's just not usable enough especially in Lilliputian Britain.
Because layout. A sirocco is like a blown up mini, with the engine bay taking little space from the total car length with the transverse engine and the front axle inbetween. This one has roughly similar cabin length to a scirocco, but there is a longitudinal engine in front of it, and in front of that engine, the front axle. Adding roughly 60cm to its length. Obviously the wide track and wider tyres make it wider too.

E65Ross

35,049 posts

212 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Really like these. I'd be interested to know what its performance is like compared to the top of the range Panamera...? Although I really prefer the looks of this, no question!

Dare I say it though.....I'm not a fan of the noise of Ferrari V8s!

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

106 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Reminds me of a song...........

She ain't exactly pretty
Ain't exactly small

Davey S2

13,092 posts

254 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Every time you looked at it there would be a little voice saying 'you should have got the V12.

Maldini35

2,913 posts

188 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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As has been said not exactly breath-taking but if you spend £250k on a car with the intention of using as much as possible and damn the mileage, then this is probably the best car out there.
From my experience I generally form a stronger bond with a car the more I drive it. I still miss my ‘workhorse’ 964 (bought cheap when nobody wanted them). I drove it everywhere, station, school run, supermarket, track days, Le Mans.

I bet most owners will love these regardless of what else they have in the garage.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Davey S2 said:
Every time you looked at it there would be a little voice saying 'you should have got the V12.
Perhaps not if that voice is Manadarin or Cantonese and you live in a place where the V12 is a tax no no.

Maybe more so in the UK though I grant you.

GroundEffect

13,835 posts

156 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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bloomen said:
Why does it have to be so huuuuuge?

Something like this that was in the same ballpark size wise as a Scirocco or something would be the world's most desirable everyday car. When it's this magnitude it's just not usable enough especially in Lilliputian Britain.
Yes let's put a 6.3 V12, and two transmissions inside a Scirocco footprint....

E65Ross

35,049 posts

212 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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GroundEffect said:
bloomen said:
Why does it have to be so huuuuuge?

Something like this that was in the same ballpark size wise as a Scirocco or something would be the world's most desirable everyday car. When it's this magnitude it's just not usable enough especially in Lilliputian Britain.
Yes let's put a 6.3 V12, and two transmissions inside a Scirocco footprint....
Sounds like fun biggrin

If a bit tricky...

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

106 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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E65Ross said:
GroundEffect said:
bloomen said:
Why does it have to be so huuuuuge?

Something like this that was in the same ballpark size wise as a Scirocco or something would be the world's most desirable everyday car. When it's this magnitude it's just not usable enough especially in Lilliputian Britain.
Yes let's put a 6.3 V12, and two transmissions inside a Scirocco footprint....
Sounds like fun biggrin

If a bit tricky...
Would probably work better in a Yeti footprint.................

Sorry, that play on words was abominable.

Maldini35

2,913 posts

188 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Agent XXX said:
Would probably work better in a Yeti footprint.................

Sorry, that play on words was abominable.
link ? (Missing)

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

106 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Maldini35 said:
link ? (Missing)
Subtle.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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bloomen said:
Absolutely. That would probably seal the sale for me. And a Scirocco is not really a small car by any means.

I had a good look over a Nissan Gtr a while back. I rejected the idea mainly because of the ridiculous bloat. I can't park it comfortably anywhere and it'll barely fit down most of the roads I bomb down.
GTR is surely not much diff to your R32? c.10cm in the width and roughly the same length? Not really much different - unless you thought the R32 was too big of course! Get one bought. wink


Nice article, Matt - did you actually get in the back seats...just to see if you could?

PunterCam

1,069 posts

195 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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xjay1337 said:
bloomen said:
Why does it have to be so huuuuuge?

Something like this that was in the same ballpark size wise as a Scirocco or something would be the world's most desirable everyday car. When it's this magnitude it's just not usable enough especially in Lilliputian Britain.
I can see your point.

But would you spend say £120k on a car the same size as a hatch back?
I always think this is a batst crazy opinion. Why isn't there an expensive hatchback? You can spend 10 grand or 250 grand on a saloon, you can spend 20 grand or hallf a mill on a 2 seater sports car, but with hatchbacks - the most practical shape of car - no. Anything over 40 grand is utter madness apparently. And yet people can't seem to spot their own madness.

This Ferrari loses all interest without the V12 and 4wd for me. It's a weird thing anyway, but with a turbo 8 and normal drivetrain, it's a bit like "who cares" for me.