RE: Ferrari 612: PH Used Buying Guide

RE: Ferrari 612: PH Used Buying Guide

Thursday 8th March

Ferrari 612: PH Used Buying Guide

Now available from £60k, the 612 offers great value for prospective Ferrari owners...



You might think anyone considering a V12 Ferrari would simply let their valet take care of the buying process. Yet when you realise the 612 Scaglietti has dropped in value to around £60,000 for higher mileage, well cared for cars it's within reach of a great many more mortals.

They will still need their wits about them, though, as there are some 612s out there waiting to bite the unwary very hard in the nether wallet region. A quick scan of any car's history should weed out these examples as you're best to avoid 612s with multiple short-term owners, which suggests expensive ongoing faults. Much better to find a car that's been driven by few owners but over plenty of miles.


High mileage is nothing to fret about with the 612 as the engine is rock solid. The 5.7-litre V12 produces 540hp and 434lb ft of torque, which sees this 1875kg four-seat grand tourer from 0-62mph in 4.3 seconds. Top speed is 199mph, so there are no issues with covering ground at a rate of knots either.

And you'll be able to do that with three adults passengers plus luggage as the 612's 16-foot long body affords lots of passenger space front and rear. There's also a good deal of comfort and pampering thanks to standard leather upholstery, climate control, cruise control, Bose stereo, auto wipers and headlights and a driving position easily tailored to all sizes thanks to electrically adjusted front seats.

New buyers could order the HGTS pack that brought a sports exhaust, firmer suspension and quicker-changing auto' box. The HGTC package offered this plus carbon ceramic brakes, and an HGT2 pack was offered on later cars.


Ferrari updated the 612 in March 2008, though you'll be hard-pressed to tell from the exterior. The big giveaway is an electrochromic glass roof fitted to cars ordered through the One-to-One programme. This allowed buyers to fly to the factory for a session with a Ferrari personal assistant to pin down the exact specification. These updated 612s also came with a revised gearbox shared with the 599 for better shifts, and a manettino control on the steering wheel for the various drive options.

While the 612 was not universally praised for its looks when new, the styling has become more accepted since the car's launch in 2004. It's also proven to be much more reliable and easier to live with than its predecessor, the 456. Despite its considerable size, the 612 is not as heavy as you might fear because it was Ferrari's first all-aluminium 12-cylinder model. This feeling is further helped as it was the first road car from the Maranello firm to have its front-mounted V12 engine positioned completely behind the front axle line. The 612 was also the first Ferrari road car with electronic stability control rather than just traction control.

All of this in a car you can now buy from £60,000 from a trusted Ferrari specialist. If you can find one, a manual gearbox version will add £15,000 to the price, while an updated 2008-on car costs from £100,000, and the good news is prices for all 612s in fine fettle are rising steadily.



Bodywork and interior

Check the electronic dash display is operating properly. Problems here mean a replacement unit due to failed power supply or the motherboard giving up.

Dash-top leather can shrink and split on cars that have spent their lives in sunny countries.

Instrument buttons can become sticky to the touch with age or lack of use, so check their condition and that every one functions properly.


Engine and transmission

The manual gearbox is strong but very rare - only 199 612s were made with this transmission.

The six-speed F1A automated manual gearbox was recalled in 2008 for a faulty sensor. Later 'boxes are reliable but benefit from latest available software updates.

The V12 motor uses a cambelt that needs to be replaced every five years or 30,000 miles, which will cost around £3,000 from a Ferrari dealer.

Minor services at an independent specialist come in at £1,000, while a major service will set you back £1,500.

13.6mpg is the official combined fuel economy, but this can dip to 8mpg in town. On a run, 18mpg is possible at 70mph.


Suspension and steering

Usual checks for alignment and any noises. Otherwise, the 612 is very reliable in these areas.

Wheels, tyres and brakes

German specialist Sicom offers a refurbishing service for carbon ceramic brakes at a quarter of the cost of replacement discs from Ferrari at around £15,000 per set including pads.

Owners report tyres tend to last around 10,000 miles

Inspired? Search for a Ferrari 612 Scaglietti in the classifieds


Ferrari 612 Scaglietti

Engine: 5,748cc V12
Transmission: 6-speed manual/auto, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 540@7250rpm
Torque (lb ft): 434@5250rpm
MPG: 13.6
CO2: 475g/km
Price new: £187,745
Price now: £60,000 upwards

Author
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dvshannow

Original Poster:

787 posts

72 months

Thursday 8th March
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It drives like a barge though compared with the sporty ferraris or even the newer GTs test drive one before getting too excited about owing one they are not for everybody

Dale487

804 posts

59 months

Thursday 8th March
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The comment on the carbon ceramic brakes, reads like Sicom charge £15K and that Ferrari would charge £60k! for a new set of brakes - I know their expensive but that's barmy & I'm out (even though I do like the idea of a manual in TDFB).

Plus doesn't a DSG Golf R accelerate as fast to 60mph, for half the money & have more space?

Gad-Westy

9,042 posts

149 months

Thursday 8th March
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Dale487 said:
Plus doesn't a DSG Golf R accelerate as fast to 60mph, for half the money & have more space?
Yep, same reason I'd never want a 250 GTO wink

Dale487

804 posts

59 months

Thursday 8th March
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Gad-Westy said:
Dale487 said:
Plus doesn't a DSG Golf R accelerate as fast to 60mph, for half the money & have more space?
Yep, same reason I'd never want a 250 GTO wink
A Golf R does it for a 500th of the price of a GTO smile


Vocht

1,207 posts

100 months

Thursday 8th March
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Can you actually fit real humans in the rear of these or just the blow up plastic kind?
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Dale487

804 posts

59 months

Thursday 8th March
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Vocht said:
Can you actually fit real humans in the rear of these or just the blow up plastic kind?
But you can fit real humans in a Golf R & they do an estate version - you can't get a 612 estate wink

Dr G

13,391 posts

178 months

Thursday 8th March
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article said:
multiple short-term owners, which suggests expensive ongoing faults
Not necessarily; it can in fact suggest completely the opposite if it's been through the hands of several reputable dealers who each, on preparation, have ensured the vehicle is brought up to a high standard. Dismissing a vehicle on the basis of a number on a piece of paper would be foolish.

Strange that Pistonheads would choose to propagate a myth amongst a community of drivers that frequently change cars simply because they like trying different things.

Jual Mass Flywheel

2,667 posts

91 months

Thursday 8th March
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Dale487 said:
The comment on the carbon ceramic brakes, reads like Sicom charge £15K and that Ferrari would charge £60k! for a new set of brakes - I know their expensive but that's barmy & I'm out (even though I do like the idea of a manual in TDFB).
Exactly what I was thinking. Re the fezza it's still no looker. Get yourself a 6 speed open gate V10 Gallardo for around 70-80k and screw the rear passengers!

GinSour

15 posts

16 months

Thursday 8th March
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I could be the only one.

I don't think they have aged well.

Dale487

804 posts

59 months

Thursday 8th March
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Dr G said:
article said:
multiple short-term owners, which suggests expensive ongoing faults
Not necessarily; it can in fact suggest completely the opposite if it's been through the hands of several reputable dealers who each, on preparation, have ensured the vehicle is brought up to a high standard. Dismissing a vehicle on the basis of a number on a piece of paper would be foolish.

Strange that Pistonheads would choose to propagate a myth amongst a community of drivers that frequently change cars simply because they like trying different things.
Very true if the car has been through reputable dealers, particularly as they're very likely to carry out the next required service before the sale has gone through.

mooseracer

388 posts

106 months

Thursday 8th March
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These "buying guides" are so short these days they hardly seem worth it.

janesmith1950

2,161 posts

31 months

Thursday 8th March
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Thank god PH have done this buying guide. Like thousands of PHers I am totally reliant on a quickly researched 5 minute article when choosing my £100k Ferrari!

Cheers!

Dale487

804 posts

59 months

Thursday 8th March
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mooseracer said:
These "buying guides" are so short these days they hardly seem worth it.
I'm sure there has been a better & more in depth 612 buying guide historically on PH.

Gameface

5,912 posts

13 months

Thursday 8th March
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Ugly when new.

Ugly now.

Gad-Westy

9,042 posts

149 months

Thursday 8th March
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Gameface said:
Ugly when new.

Ugly now.
I thought the same when new but they've grown on me. I think that proportions aren't brilliant, too damn long and it looks challenging from head on but otherwise I'm warming to it. Prefer the 456 though.

ruprechtmonkeyboy

274 posts

23 months

Thursday 8th March
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Dale487 said:
Vocht said:
Can you actually fit real humans in the rear of these or just the blow up plastic kind?
But you can fit real humans in a Golf R & they do an estate version - you can't get a 612 estate wink
Top trolling!

Krikkit

13,521 posts

117 months

Thursday 8th March
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Dale487 said:
mooseracer said:
These "buying guides" are so short these days they hardly seem worth it.
I'm sure there has been a better & more in depth 612 buying guide historically on PH.
Don't think they've done the 612 before, but if you compare the "new" format buying guide for this against the one for the 550 Maranello it's a bit of a shock.

rtz62

1,553 posts

91 months

Thursday 8th March
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Popped in to Nick Cartwrights, just outside Matlock, before Christmas.
For those who don’t know them, they are a family-run specialist, are lovely people and are happy to chat about anything cars.
I had a look round a 246, 308 Veteoresina and others, and whilst in their workshop saw that were replacing the carbon brakes on a 612.
I can’t remember exactly but I believe it was £2.5k per corner. Bang goes my good kidney..

Quick question for Dan Trent; as an avid reader of all thing PH, what has happened to these guides?
They used to be very informative, gave points to watch for and views of owners under each section.
I, along with others, feel short-changed with the new format, so can we see a return to the old, and better, buyers guides?

HardtopManual

1,072 posts

102 months

Thursday 8th March
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EFA: the 612 Scaglietti has dropped risen in value from £45k to around £60,000 for higher mileage

Bit late, PH.

R6VED

986 posts

76 months

Thursday 8th March
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I think they are the muntpig of the Ferrari line up personally. They have not aged well and were visually unpleasant from the outset.

Just imo of course, but I am right nonetheless :-)