RE: BMW M135i: PH Carpool

RE: BMW M135i: PH Carpool

Monday 2nd April 2018

BMW M135i: PH Carpool

What's the answer to everything when it isn't MX-5? This PHer thinks it could be M135i...



Name: Carl Green
Car: BMW M135i
Owned since: April 2016
Previously owned: Classic Mini (which I still own, although I've never driven it as it's been a long-term project). Peugeot 106, that was simply stunning to drive and so rewarding. Peugeot 406 Coupe, which I still refer to as the 'yacht' as it felt like such a boat in the corners. A highly modified Toyota Sera (which got mixed reactions when previously featured on PH Carpool a few years ago), plus two Mazda MX-5s (Mk1 California and a Mk3 Sport).

Why I bought it:
"Needing something more practical than the Mk3 MX5, I decided it was time to grow up and think about the future as I had two nieces and a nephew to ferry about. My wish list went something like this: five-door, RWD, auto (because I'm lazy when cruising) fun, powerful, good on fuel, classy and, ideally, something a bit rare and unusual - I had missed having that since selling the Sera. It seemed the final decision was between M135i, Audi RS3, Mercedes A45 AMG, Focus RS and a Golf GTD (because I was never going to fulfill all my criteria!).

"Basically all hot hatches, however I really fell for the M135i after I drove the others: the Audi was pretty average (powerful, yes, but not fun enough), obviously the Focus didn't come as an auto (which was quite a priority for me), and I just couldn't find an A45 at the time, although it looked a bit too boy racer for me anyway. The BMW was the only one of shortlist that was six-cylinder and that really helped convince me. Having driven the M135i at three different dealers I then set my heart on one: I knew I wanted Estoril Blue or Valencia Orange, but then the latter was eliminated when my fiancée bought an orange 116d! Anything else in terms of extras was a bonus for me.

"The raw power really sold it to me, and it was practical enough to make something this fast seem a good idea. The ZF auto 'box is stunning and so easy to live with. It does what I want when I want it, the engine makes a lovely noise even for a turbo, and the fact it's a five-door hatchback really catches people out - they just don't expect it to be fast! All these things come together to make it a really impressive car, so I knew I would end up with one. I just had to find it!"


What I wish I'd known:
"The fact an M140i would be announced not long after buying mine, but in reality there wasn't much I didn't know. My fiancée had just bought the 116d so I knew everything would be good when it came to practicality like the size of the boot or rear leg room - I'm not the tallest person in the world! I did plenty of research looking for M135i-specific problems but none that worried me as such. I even watched Joe Achilles YouTube videos... I think it was Joe that sold it to me as an all-round good car for a daily driver."

Things I love:
"The fact it is such a wolf in sheep's clothing; so many people do not expect the car to be like it is, and I love it when I have new passengers and they're as impressed as I was when I first drove it. I love the fact I can drive this car hard, really work the auto 'box with the paddles and enjoy myself as much as the MX-5s and the car never fails to raise a smile. It just wants to rev and when the systems are in Sport+ and the manual mode is selected it really makes the drive feel worthwhile.

"I love the fact I can take our mates out and it's not uncomfortable or noisy or even remotely sporty when you don't want it to be; it sounds predictable, but it honestly feels like two different cars in one. I know the noise is manipulated inside, but I love the sound outside so much that I'll let my mates have a go so I can hear it!"


Things I hate:
"Hate really is a strong word. There are things that I would prefer the car to have, but I bought the car knowing it didn't have every available option from the factory (or any really, in my car's case, but poverty spec is fine). I do like the heated steering wheel in the 116d, however this was something I soon got over and am not too worried about now. Heated seats and nav might have been nice options but really the car is about the performance. I'm in the process of arranging for cruise control to be coded in and having the buttons put on the steering wheel. I also dislike the fact it gets called an M1 everywhere by anyone who doesn't know, and I'm bored of correcting them on that or their assumption that's it's a 3.5-litre - but the M1 thing gets me more!"

Costs:
"I drive this car daily and the fuel consumption is better than I've ever achieved in my Sera or either MX-5 - in reality my Mk3 MX-5 only managed 28mpg on my commute. It did have a few minor mods but the BMW can get to over 32mpg and on a motorway cruise I can see 38mpg. I know this isn't the right forum for fuel comparisons, however running it as a daily I needed to know it wasn't going to bankrupt me, and it hasn't, which is nice.

"The major service was due at the end of last year and this cost me £475, supplying my own oil as BMW charge roughly £20 a litre. When you consider the 116d also had its service not long after and was £300 or so (again supplying our own oil), relatively speaking that's not bad I think. Tyres can be expensive compared to what I would have paid on the MX-5, of course, but I've been impressed with the Kumhos that I now have on the car, which are cheaper than the standard Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I'll keep an eye on the wear over the next few months then decide if the Super Sports are worth the extra money. Tax is £230 a year so not too expensive. Insurance for my partner and I (aged 23 and 28 respectively) is £500 for a fully comp policy with 18,000 miles a year - I think that's a bit of a bargain given our ages!"


Where I've been:
"I use it all the time, going out a weekends as well as for commuting - why wouldn't I? It needed to be good enough for everything, which I think it is. Now that the summer is coming around it would be good to get to some car meets and events, and a nice drive out to Goodwood Festival of Speed is on the list this year."

What next:
"I haven't really thought about it yet! To be honest this car should keep me going for a few more years, but it would be nice to think if I could afford something like an Alfa Giulia Quadrifoglio or a C63 in the not too distant future. I'd also like to consider some upgrades in future such as an M Performance exhaust or a remap, but they are not priorities at present."

Author
Discussion

Hairymonster

Original Poster:

1,430 posts

106 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Great car - recently bought an older 120i - 170bhp and goes pretty well, but I would love one of the straight sixes!

garreth64

663 posts

222 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Great cars. We loved ours too until it was stolen a few weeks ago furious Be vigilant, there are a lot of thieving scumbags out there.

*Al*

3,830 posts

223 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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garreth64 said:
Great cars. We loved ours too until it was stolen a few weeks ago furious Be vigilant, there are a lot of thieving scumbags out there.
Sorry to hear, how do scumbags take these cars with great factory immobilisers?

p1stonhead

25,577 posts

168 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Isn’t stealing a modern (especially keyless) BMW basically like taking candy from a baby?

Scobblelotcher

1,724 posts

113 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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p1stonhead said:
Isn’t stealing a modern (especially keyless) BMW basically like taking candy from a baby?
Depends if it has comfort access I believe. My car still needs the key to be pressed to unlock the door then has keyless start.

I’ve got a M135i as well but it’s the mk2 (LCI?)

I’m about to take the badge off the back to make it a bit more stealthy as I prefer to fly under the radar and also get bored of saying it’s not a M1 etc. I like the fact it looks almost identical to any normal model with an M-Sport kit, the most obvious giveaway is the dual exhausts.

The 3.0 turbo engine is sensational in the little car, it’s so muscular and sounds superb and for me is best mated to the auto box. The only downside from the engine is traction is often a issue unless the roads are dry and in reasonable condition, don’t get me wrong it’s better than all of the high powered FWD cars I’ve been in but you have to work with the car rather than just flooring it everywhere.

I think the car is great, it’s quiet and comfortable when required and able to deliver decent performance when required and best of all for me, it’s very subtle.

Edited by Scobblelotcher on Monday 2nd April 10:59

court

1,487 posts

217 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Now it's confirmed the next 1er will be 3/4-cyl only I thought it was an itch I needed to scratch so I bagged a 3.5yo manual 5-door in Estoril a couple of months ago from BMW with 2 years AUC warranty, 4 new MPSS tyres and new front pads at what I though was a very compelling price.

I was lucky to find one with the 5 year service pack so in a month or so the big pricey service is all paid up - at around £700 including oil it's a good saving.

I have to echo all your comments, so comfy with the adaptive dampers and great fun in Sport+ or DTC mode. I prefer the longer gas pedal in DTC mode, but also like the sound in Sport+.

I've done a couple of mods including folding the mirrors on locking, and Start/Stop status remember. I also changed the black chrome tailpipes to the chrome ones from a 335/340 which i prefer.

Looking on keeping till it hits around £10k and finds the next market of car buyers.


Deadlysub

512 posts

159 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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I adored mine, probably the best car I had ever owned until our house got broken into for the keys.

If you have one, take all the necessary security precautions you can.

Chestrockwell

2,630 posts

158 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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These cars will be cult classics in the future, BMW really hit the spot with this car, super car performance for a reasonable price.

Modern day Subaru or Cosworth surely

unsprung

5,467 posts

125 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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That richly-hued blue, combined with a couple -- but not too many -- compound curves gives a very smart look indeed.

xcentric

722 posts

220 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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We had one for 2 years on a lease (very good deal). Pros: easy to live with, blisteringly quick, reasonable space, stealth car. Gearbox great in auto mode, fine in flappy paddle mode. Cruise and speed limiter nice to haves. Heated seats great.

Cons: disconnected from the road - I find it hard to view it as a real drivers car. Steering too light, and bumpy roads unsettle it far too much. Turbo delays are annoying, so much so that when pushing on you need to use the flappy paddles to pre-shift down. Nav ok but all BMW's now look the same inside so there's no particular theatre.

[edited to add: when in eco pro mode, feels like it's broken. Awful.]

So despite its speed and flexibility, I never fell in love with it. It was good, but not great. Competent, not extraordinary.

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Hairymonster said:
Great car - recently bought an older 120i - 170bhp and goes pretty well, but I would love one of the straight sixes!
You'd be better off in an SUV.

Reg Local

2,681 posts

209 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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I love mine. Here’s a little video I made about it last year:

https://youtu.be/Mvr8ROzRKcw

Yes, I know - number plate etc...

JackReacher

2,130 posts

216 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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xcentric said:
We had one for 2 years on a lease (very good deal). Pros: easy to live with, blisteringly quick, reasonable space, stealth car. Gearbox great in auto mode, fine in flappy paddle mode. Cruise and speed limiter nice to haves. Heated seats great.

Cons: disconnected from the road - I find it hard to view it as a real drivers car. Steering too light, and bumpy roads unsettle it far too much. Turbo delays are annoying, so much so that when pushing on you need to use the flappy paddles to pre-shift down. Nav ok but all BMW's now look the same inside so there's no particular theatre.

[edited to add: when in eco pro mode, feels like it's broken. Awful.]

So despite its speed and flexibility, I never fell in love with it. It was good, but not great. Competent, not extraordinary.
Same opinion here (m240i). These cars are very overrated. The right ingredients are there, small coupe, RWD, monster of a straight six engine....

But I never want to take it for a drive just for the sake of it. Like you say, it feels so disconnected from the road, terrible steering and poor damping. Mine is only 6 months old but seriously considering selling, taking the hit and buying a second hand 987 Cayman, plus a cheap daily. I could try and spend money and time modding it, perhaps a B12 kit and LSD would transform it, but not sure I want to take the chance.

Numeric

1,399 posts

152 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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We do like ours enormously - and it now my partners daily drive (we had an old Honda for that service for a while) but I have to be honest and say it has a lot of overall shortcomings - mostly related to it being an early second gen one series.

It is all about the engine - the big six is crazy and surprising and lovely in a car this small and in many ways when I drive it I think of the old Z3 Breadvan - too much engine and therefore huge interest! But like that genre of BMW this also suffers from a cramped cabin, poor plastics and slightly underwhelming brakes and suspension. I also have to say that anyone who buys a 1-series without a six would be MUCH better off with a Golf etc etc. as these are fundamentally better cars as daily drivers. Sit in an A3 of the same era - crikey!

And get a manual, why fit a super complex box in a car that feels so old school and analogue. Enjoy the fight.

Of course you can spend a lot of money on mods - but that always seems an odd thing to do to me - get an M2 if you are going that route, our solution it turned out for her ladyships 'weekend' car.

Back when I was a nipper the first gen 3-series in 323i guise had a reputation for being frisky and wanting to crash, same with this. So will we keep it? Yes - it really is a lovely daft thing, like a nutty terrier that wants to bite a police officers leg and really embarrass you - but a polished performer? Gosh no!

daemon

35,852 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Chestrockwell said:
These cars will be cult classics in the future, BMW really hit the spot with this car, super car performance for a reasonable price.

Modern day Subaru or Cosworth surely
+1

Wholly agree with this.

QuattroDave

1,467 posts

129 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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I've got a 66 plate M140i auto and overall I'm very happy with it, fast when I want to have fun, pretty sippy on the fuel and comfortable. I generally tend to change cars every six months but I've had this for 18 months now and although I'm getting an itchy trigger finger to buy another car I won't be selling this one, instead I'll change my wifes car. Quite possibly to another BMW with the B58 as it's one hell of an engine.

There are a few niggles. Traction out of junctions in the wet can be verging on dangerous as the TC just kills all power rather than manages what traction it has, the tyre noise in the cabin is uncomfortably loud for anything more than an hours journey (though changing from MPSS to Asy3's lessens the noise levels) and eco pro is perhaps too slack with the throttle. If only coasting was an option in comfort mode I'd probably not use eco at all (although I can do 45-47mpg on a run in eco!).

I've had (much much) faster cars, I've had slightly more economical cars & I've had more fun to drive cars but this one seems definitely to be a jack of all with an increasingly rare combinaiton of >4 cylinders in the front, rear wheel drive and <£40k.

Edited by QuattroDave on Monday 2nd April 18:12

QuattroDave

1,467 posts

129 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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As for missing the heated steering wheel can I point you in the direction of royal steering wheels. I had mine recovered in alcantara with valencia orange stitching to match the exterior and it's 1000% improvement on the original wheel leather(ette?). For £150 I now have a wheel that's not too cold in winter and not too hot in summer and feels great to boot!

Other bugbear of course is theft rates. Seems the scrotes of this world have taken a shine to them so I'm now paying more to insure this than I was insuring my C6 RS6!!

QuattroDave

1,467 posts

129 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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p1stonhead

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168 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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QuattroDave

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129 months

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