RE: Chrysler Crossfire: Spotted

RE: Chrysler Crossfire: Spotted

Saturday 28th April 2018

Chrysler Crossfire: Spotted

For £3,500, will this Spotted have you ducking for cover or returning fire?



When, many years ago, Daimler-Benz and Chrysler briefly jumped into bed together, one of the few outcomes of their union was this Crossfire, a Chrysler on the surface but primarily a Mercedes-Benz underneath.

It's fair to say it was never stunningly popular, though, so you might be asking what the hell is it doing here, on these hallowed pages? Well this tail-less lizard of a car can go from 0 to 60mph in 6.5 seconds and on to a top speed of 155mph, and the one we've found is only £3,500, so the bang for buck is good. Yes, there might be more than a whiff of the faux hanging over its love-it-or-hate-it looks, but those figures are quite hot, even if it admittedly takes a whopping and decidedly thirsty naturally aspirated 3.2-litre V6 to achieve them.


To add to its straight-line speed it's also a structurally stiff car, and as a result it rides surprisingly well and could reputedly corner in excess of 1.1g, which was mightily impressive when it was new and still pretty good today. This is no sports car, though - its steering is too slow for that - but clever details that make driving fast a pleasure abound. For example, the car's shape (drawn by an Englishman, incidentally) is not only controversial it's also aerodynamic, with an adaptive tail spoiler and cleverly sculpted undersides shaped to induce downforce. It's also pleasingly absent in the front and rear overhang department. There was even a convertible version, too, should you want your hair ruffled.

However, if for some reason you don't fancy the prospect of owning an American car then you can always truthfully tell people that most of this Brit-designed Chrysler is an old Merc SLK, and it was actually made by Karmann in Germany.


This one comes with a year's MOT. It'll cost a lot to run, of course, and rust can be a killer. It's also a manual, which will admittedly please some but might ultimately detract from the car's pleasantness, much as it would in the equivalent SLK - the five-speed auto's probably a better bet.

Of course you might consider that so is an old Audi TT or a BMW Z4, or even the original SLK itself - and you might be right - but none of those have names that roll off the tongue with quite the alliterative suavity of this unusual Chrysler.


SPECIFICATION - CHRYSLER CROSSFIRE

Engine: 3.2-litre V6
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 215@5,700rpm
Torque (lb ft): 229@3,000rpm
First registered: 2004
Recorded mileage: 82,000
Price new: £27,260
Yours for: £3,500

See the full ad here.

Mark Pearson

 

 

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mnx42

Original Poster:

215 posts

163 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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I have always fancied one of these, a nice looking car imo.

TerryFarquit

93 posts

127 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Whatever their merits, they never recovered after Clarkson compared the coupe to a defecating dog.

Integroo

11,574 posts

85 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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There was one near me as a kid and I thought it seemed very exotic. Quite like them. Don't get great write ups in terms of driving dynamics or quality though.

LDN

8,911 posts

203 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Build was by Karmann and was first class; in terms of bodywork, shutlines and the like; very very well put together. But the interior is a little cheap, and is a let down. The irony is, there’s nothing American about it, bar a Chrysler designed exhaust; different to the donor SLK; that gave a meatier sound; it’s a pure European ride, as the article says.

The Clarkson comment seemed enough to sway the British public away from these altogether. But they have an extremely loyal fan base in other parts of the world it seems.

The SRT version of the crossfire, is just the AMG SLK - and it is a st load faster; but a little more money.

cmvtec

2,188 posts

81 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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I had the use of a convertible model a few summers ago, it wasn't startling in any way but quite a nice all round package.

Did have quite a nice exhaust note, though.

Lockhouse

262 posts

199 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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My wife's got one. It's not powerful enough for me to worry about her getting into trouble but it looks pretty and she has a nice convertible for not much money. Win-win.

Upsides, Mercedes underpinnings. Still looks modern.

Downsides, where the Mercedes overengineering meets the Chrysler can be temperamental. E.g. spoiler activation, electrics, slow revving engine, plasticy dashboard.

Conclusion, the SRT6 is a beast when tuned but the NA is great for your missus to pony to the shops.

Edited by Lockhouse on Saturday 28th April 07:28

37chevy

3,280 posts

156 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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I’ve got an SRT6. Think the problem is the marketing was all wrong, think of it like this. As an American car, it handles great, looks cool and retro and goes like st off a shovel, my srt6 will beat modern mustangs in a straight line and handles just as well.....but then put it against a European sportscar like a modern z4, cayman or boxter and of course it doesn’t quire cut the mustard unless your going in straight lines. Now go to America, and while they look cool and retro, there isn’t a v8 option....so it’s not too popular and there’s not that many corners to warrant the better handling than American cars.

So basically it’s too American to be European, and too European to be American. That said I love my crossfire, there’s only 45 in the country so insanely rare and smiles per pound there isn’t much out there to beat it.

only1ian

688 posts

194 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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I test drove a 56 plate one of these but was put off by the terrible quality of the American interior. Everything felt cheap plasticy and flimsy.

This was a shock given I was driving a 2001 Alfa GTV V6 at the time!

I did like the exterior styling and it’s massive (compared to the Gtv) boot though!

Now if you can find an extremely rare SRT variant I might think again

Edited by only1ian on Saturday 28th April 09:51

Kawasicki

13,083 posts

235 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Back in the day I rented one with a mate and we spent a weekend thrashing it around the 'Ring. Great balance with very good grip, only problem is overly soft bushes, so it doesn't feel tuned for on the limit driving...for normal road driving/cruising I think they are very decent cars.

That poor car.

DanielSan

18,792 posts

167 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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I had a red Crossfire overtake me on the motorway earlier this week, the only 2 things that struck me about it were the fact I’d even forgotten they existed, and how the looks really haven’t aged well.

37chevy

3,280 posts

156 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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DanielSan said:
I had a red Crossfire overtake me on the motorway earlier this week, the only 2 things that struck me about it were the fact I’d even forgotten they existed, and how the looks really haven’t aged well.
Let’s be fair, it’s a 15 year old car. Compare it to the Mercedes, bmw z3/4, mx5 of the time and I think it’s aged pretty well. At least it’s something different

66mpg

651 posts

107 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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A friend has one. I can always get a laugh from his family by “mistakenly” referring to it as the Ceasefire.

chunder

735 posts

246 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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"reputedly corner in excess of 1.1g".

Really ?

If so how did they engineer that ?

P.A.T.

4 posts

72 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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The OH had one for years. When she first suggested it I was less than enthusiastic. A SLK was the first option, but, when we went looking at them I was swayed by the drive and the looks compared to the R170, or, I'll whisper this, the R171.

Mechanically they really are a R170 SLK. The coupe, as stated in the article, has quite high torsional rigidity (I assume the addition of the roof to the SLK underpinnings). The slightly cheap feel, in places, is offset with very old school Mercedes attributes. The doors feel like they could support the cars weight if used as jacking points and it has a fairly solid feel in general.

Now, the way it drives... sports car it ain't. It's got the old, all-overseeing, Mercedes traction and stability nanny, and (in our case) a tiptronic autobox that can still override you when it knows best. I'll manually use 3rd and the torque for this apex to exit, cue gearbox, 'oh you've pressed the accelerator, you want 2nd,' cue kickdown, start of slide. Ok says I, I'll hang onto it, got plenty of room, traction nanny, 'no you won't,' slithery rocking motion, exit at 25mph swearing like fishwife.

This is being a bit harsh to be fair and only happens if you are being silly or pushing past 8/10ths but an Elise over a B road it will never be.

There is a massive upside though. If you want to make progress in an unruffled and smooth kind of way whilst being enveloped in a sea of woofly smooth V6ness, yes the old 12v 3.2 is one of the smoothest engines I've ever encountered, full stop, then this could just be the thing you need. The steering is not rack and pinion but a box. How old school Merc is that. As such it never kicks or bucks through the wheel no matter the road surface. It lacks a certain amount of feedback but somehow works, and works well. That gearbox, annoying as it is when you want to go loony, is smooth and has just the right amount of ratios to let the engine sing without the constant bap bap bap of a more modern one.

What this all adds up to is relaxing progress, at fairly high speeds if truth be told. What the Crossfire does, and does well is the GT thing. You can spend hours in it, without it ever becoming tiring. It has just enough to keep you engaged over a flowing A road when you want to but will just get on with the task of getting there briskly when you don't.

So think of it as a mini GT car and I reckon it's not a bad steer. The drive train has seen service in plenty of old S class Mercs to way over 250k so mechanically should be sound. Watch out for the rust and for £3.5k you get a cracking GT with old school Merc attributes, possible future classic (isn't everything these days), whats not to like.

What happened to ours? Wife replaced it, took some doing but 370z finally did it. My brother bought it and has had it since. Loves it.





lord trumpton

7,396 posts

126 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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I worked on one around 8 years ago and even back then the interior seemed crappy.

I think k at this price point it is what it is...a cheapy two seater with a decent engine.

Looks wise then it stands out as being different

kellydk

62 posts

159 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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My brother-in-law has a convertible one of these. Ignoring the looks, drive, quality etc the cat has been nothing but trouble. Spent over a year between different garages all of which struggled to figure out why it wouldn’t start. Various issues with the software not being compatible with Mercedes diagnostics or similar excuses. In the end the garage bills were in the region of £3K! before it was back on the road. Not enough knowledge around these IMO. Wouldn’t touch with a dirty stick myself!

J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Dont mind these but I could not be trusted not to punch the hill-arious wags who would come up to you and reference the Clarkson comment, it has to be mentioned in the context of the thread, as Mr Farquit did, but you just know your knuckles would be very sore inside the first week having punched 15 to 20 smart arses who truly believe that recycled fifteen year old Clarkson quotes are the height of pithy repartee.

Perhaps they need to have their own original thoughts ?

I had someone repeatedly do the TT/Gay/Hairdresser thing recently, musty have said it 7 times at me the other day looking for a rise from me, not specifically a Clarkson quote (he was a little more original on the TT, but in the same vein) he kind of then stopped the conversation and seemed to insist I replied to his ker-azy allegations, so I just asked if he wanted a haircut or a bumming, neither apparently.

So, Crossfire owners, I sympathise, and not about the car, which is actually a decent enough thing, just having to live with stting dog comments every day must get very, very tiresome.








Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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These were basically crap when new though, and age hasn't helped.

Cheap wheels, but being based on Merc underpinnings and quite rare, bills will be higher.

Not for me.

Jakg

3,463 posts

168 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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I'm in the market for exactly this kind of car, but for virtually the same price you could get a 3.0 Z4 which seems a much better car in every way. Had they of depreciated off a cliff like you'd expect (as in - how every other "European" American car does) I'd be more interested!

J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
These were basically crap when new though, and age hasn't helped.

Cheap wheels, but being based on Merc underpinnings and quite rare, bills will be higher.

Not for me.
Bills will be higher than a Mercedes ?

Why would that be ?

Its Merc bits underneath, loads of stuff available, cheaply in the main, pretty reliable, fairly under stressed V6 with a chain, plenty being broken now so second hand bits available and cant imagine you would need much beyond brakes, the odd suspension bits and throw an oil change at it occasionally.

To my mind, its a bit of a bargain if you dont expect too much and can live with the comments/like the looks. You can get one for £1200 to 2 grand if you dont mind a few miles, Some comedy priced ones, seven grand for a Crossfire, on which planet ?


Not sure I could though, they have a certain cheesy whiff/aura about them, all Chryslers seem to have it, sort of seem to attract lunatics nowadays, PT Cruisers with loads of chrome tat and 300 C "Baby Bentleys", they sort of had a bit of a buzz in early/mid 2000s but make me feel a bit queasy nowadays.