RE: McLaren Senna prototype: Driven

RE: McLaren Senna prototype: Driven

Wednesday 2nd May 2018

McLaren Senna prototype | PH Review

You know about the tech and you definitely know about the looks - here's how it drives



The motoring world really has seen nothing else like the McLaren Senna before. And no, not just like that - don't be mean. As a project, as a road car brief and as a set of statistics, the Senna appears without rival.

It weighs 200kg less than a P1. It reaches 186mph in 17 seconds. It has the kind of aerodynamic performance associated with a GT3 racing car, yet boasts - depending on the race car's spec - around another 300hp. It's as track focused as something like a Radical, yet MSO will spend an extra 250 hours on paintwork if so desired. Indeed the fact that some customers have spent £130,000 on personalisation options is about the most absurd Senna stat around.


The Senna really is unprecedented - despite some rather cruel claims about it being a remapped 720S - and the impression from McLaren is that they know it, too. Something audacious is being attempted here, with the Senna's attempt at innovation coming through unflinching circuit focus rather than via an arguably trendier medium like electrification. Hundreds of people have paid £750,000 for a car that, after all, that could be seen as less significant in the hypercar story than the P1. So the talk of legalising McLaren's motorsport DNA, of the purest possible connection between car and driver, of a ruthless dedication to going fast, needs to stack up. If the Senna doesn't offer something tangibly different to a P1 while using 'just' a combustion engine, then why bother?

Even as a static object, the Senna is something different to what has come before it. And don't just say worse. Nothing has been left to chance when it comes to saving weight and further honing performance, from 660g front wings to the rear diffuser, which is one single piece of carbon and begins at the back axle. Before you've even looked inside, the motorsport intent of the Senna makes a 720S resemble a Lotus Europa. Of course you would hope for as much, though the gulf really is vast.


Conveniently the 720hp mid-range McLaren is the warm up car at Silverstone, there to help with refreshing lines on the circuit and becoming familiar with 160mph occurring in not much space at all. Handy. A word of warning, however, or what you might call a spoiler alert: if you are fortunate enough to own a 720S, don't ever have a fleeting experience of a Senna. Because your car, perhaps the greatest contemporary supercar out there, is going to feel a bit flat afterwards...

What the Senna does so well is expertly meld the exhilaration of a racing car with the relative approachability of a road-going McLaren - at least on this circuit experience, that is. You're never overawed by the motorsport focus, yet you're also never in any doubt that the Senna is a way, way more serious circuit proposition than any other McLaren.

That begins as soon as the harnesses are pulled a bit too tight, because what's left of the interior is familiar from the rest of the range. The steering wheel is same unadorned item you see everywhere else. The screens are what you're used to looking at. Heck, the visibility is even quite good, with McLaren focused on ultra thin A-pillars (all the better for seeing apexes), a reasonable view out the back, and that trademark low scuttle. It would be a stretch to say you're immediately at ease in the Senna, but neither are you so intimidated to think of running for the safety of the pit garage.


The same sort of thing happens on the track. It's only six laps of Silverstone International, so far from comprehensive, however there's more than enough time with the Senna to identify how cleverly the car has been engineered. Because despite the hundreds of kilos of downforce, brakes that out-stop the P1, and a Golf GTI's more power than the Sports Series Models (which do 200mph), the Senna still feels like a McLaren to drive fast. And that's meant entirely as a compliment.

So the steering remains hydraulic, with the kind of lightness and delicacy of touch that seems to elude almost every other car. Honestly, it's superb. The pedals are perfectly placed and deliver reliable, confidence inspiring feedback. The Senna is a trustworthy, engaging sports car.

Yet, of course, it's so, so much more than that. Those familiar McLaren traits are there, sure, only built upon with truly stunning additional capability. The brakes are absolutely staggering, responsive to every tiny input and yet relentlessly hauling the Senna down from incredible speeds. As a point of reference it's braking 25m later into Stowe than a P1 does, and can stop from 124mph in 100 metres. And that's the key: the communication is there through the Senna to make approaching those incredible limits something to savour rather than fear.


There's no way that anything close to the Senna's peak cornering speed was reached in half a dozen laps. Obviously. Even so, it delivers the kind of outright grip and composure that would leave a 720S floundering. No entry speed feels too optimistic and no throttle application too greedy because of this seemingly omnipotent handling ability. It's not impregnable though, and the odd flash of traction control does at least show some effort, and also how fantastically integrated the systems are - it would be almost impossible to tell of any intervention without the light. Again, the Senna is encouraging the driver to work up to both the limits of themselves and the car - it's not some leap into the unknown and upside down world of downforce.

In fact, the enthralling way in which this car stops and turns means the way it goes becomes less and less of a priority. Yes, the Senna corners and brakes in such a ferocious way that 800hp isn't what takes your breath away. Of course driving a 720hp car a few minutes before will soften the blow somewhat; it's evident, however, that the Senna's real gains are in other areas.

With new pistons, new cams and a new designation - M840TR - the Senna's 4.0-litre V8 is significantly overhauled from any similar installations. And while it's undoubtedly faster, louder and a bit sharper, on this experience - with the mind probably on other things - the Senna doesn't sound drastically better than other McLarens. Sorry. The claims of "singing like a motorcycle race engine" will have to be properly verified another time.


Of course on the flipside it means that the engine and dual-clutch gearbox are still as, well, spot on as they are in other McLarens. There isn't some awkward sequential to deal with, a tremendously narrow powerband or horrendous turbo lag. On the cooling down lap the Senna mooches around at a normal speed, not making any daft noises or requiring any particular effort - it's simple, which bodes extremely well for road use.

And imagine that as a possibility: a car with all the lovely interaction and feel we've come to associate with McLaren Automotive products, combined with track ability rarely seen outside a motorsport paddock. Of course it's impossible to know entirely whether that would be the case, but there is little reason to doubt the possibility. By performing like some incredible racing machine when you need it to, but feeling like a McLaren exactly when you want it to, the Senna appears to offer the very best of two quite different, yet very appealing, worlds. If the end result really is as spectacular as this taste suggests, there will be nothing to match it. Well, until the Senna GTR that is...

 

 

 

 

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A1astair

Original Poster:

23 posts

147 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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What's the reasoning behind the glass in the doors?

I would have thought that having just plain old common or garden carbon fibre would have been lighter, stiffer and stronger than the glass, together with the structure that's needed to hold it in place?

threespires

4,297 posts

212 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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I doubt if they are made of glass. It must be great to be able to see the road surface through the door.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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And easier to see how close you are to the curb when you’re parking up in Knightsbridge.

Butter Face

30,336 posts

161 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
And easier to see how close you are to the curb when you’re parking up in Knightsbridge.
And to see the looks on all the haters faces hehe

gigglebug

2,611 posts

123 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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A1astair said:
What's the reasoning behind the glass in the doors?

I would have thought that having just plain old common or garden carbon fibre would have been lighter, stiffer and stronger than the glass, together with the structure that's needed to hold it in place?
You can option either material so the choice would be yours if you were lucky enough to be in the position to have the choice in the first place. They are merely there to give better visibility through corners, surprised they didn't get a mention in the review to be honest as their inclusion has gained plenty of column space in most articles. As there is no structural benefit to the doors, they have purposely been made as thin as possible, strength wouldn't be a consideration though you would expect whatever material they have used to be heavier than carbon.

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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I'd love to love McLaren, if that makes sense. But the engine note is an absolutely vital component of the driving experience for me and as such I can't see myself buying one anytime soon.

suffolk009

5,433 posts

166 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Just incredible. How do they keep squeezing more from the engine?

Will this be the engine they use when they release the 720S LT version in a year or two? The 800LT? Bonkers.

Have there been any road-test reviews yet?

SpudLink

5,857 posts

193 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Sounds like an extraordinary achievement. A halo product to show what McLaren can do. Track performance to take on the Ferrari FXX program, but approachable enough to allow the average billionaire to drive it without fear of killing himself.

What a fantastic statement from McLaren.

If looks and sound are your priority, then other Knightsbridge bling is available.


Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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SpudLink said:
If looks and sound are your priority, then other Knightsbridge bling is available.
That a dig at me?

smilo996

2,795 posts

171 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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So much for being a bit boring and anally retentive. They certainly pulled out all the stops and in these colours it looks great too.
Bodes well for the replacement F1.

Amazing to think how they have come in such a short time.

SpudLink

5,857 posts

193 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Gameface said:
SpudLink said:
If looks and sound are your priority, then other Knightsbridge bling is available.
That a dig at me?
No, that wasn’t my intention to have a dig at anyone.

Previous threads have focused on the looks, almost to the exclusion of everything else. And complaints about McLaren cars not ‘stirring the soul’ have been around since the 12C.

I love a beautiful sonorous V12 Italian supercar as much as the next overgrown school boy. But I appreciate that McLaren are doing something slightly different. Not trying to be more Italian than the Italians.

If I were a billionaire, I would obviously want to own and be seen in the best looking and sounding supercar on the market. As well as a chauffeur driven limo. But I would also like to know the best brains in the industry are focusing on making a car that provides the best possible driving experience.


Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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beer

Frimley111R

15,677 posts

235 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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So hard to get past those god awful looks....

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Driven? but I can't see a video in the review confused

Pistonheads, up your game hehe

Autocar has one here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyrWBmTV7ho
A US review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlTFH01_9cE
Aussie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlJK-K7a_0c

Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 2nd May 10:01

CaptainRAVE

360 posts

113 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Ugly. Fortunately most will be locked away in garages, so we won't have to see them. The rest will be in London and the UAE stuck in traffic. I wonder how many will actually make it to a track.

isaldiri

18,606 posts

169 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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It does my head in when journalists go on about how much better the brakes are as it stops better in this type of car when it's most probably fitted with a stickier tyre (trofeo in this case and supposedly an extra sticky trofeo to boot) compared to the standard 720 or P1 that is being referenced.

phugleigh

141 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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many congratulations !
Trustworthy and engaging sports car

takes a certain type of engineering team to deliver that.

Well done !!


anthonysjb

524 posts

137 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Time for a Nurburgring lap time. Will they attempt it?

Probably scared that the GT2 RS will still be king.

MIP1983

210 posts

206 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Eugh, it's just such a mess. I know... because race car, but it's not like Le mans cars or the Vulcan or FXXK are particularly ugly.

jimKRFC

484 posts

143 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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