RE: Jaguar XE S: Driven

RE: Jaguar XE S: Driven

Tuesday 8th May 2018

2019 Jaguar XE S | UK Review

The last of the line for six-cylinder small Jags, and what a fine way to bow out



So the six-cylinder Jaguar saloon is done, dusted, and never to see the light of day again. Well certainly for the XE and XF that is, and who would bet against the XJ one day following? It's hardly a new engine, after all. Loath though we are to admit it, the decision to drop the petrol XE and XF S models is eminently sensible: they accounted for just two per cent of sales and, with emissions under ever-increasing scrutiny, an XE that emitted just 5g/km less than an Audi RS4 must have been hard to justify.

On paper, then, the move is entirely understandable. Trouble is, the process of driving, of owning and using a car, doesn't take place on paper. It takes place in the real world, with senses and feeling and emotion involved, without wishing to Queef all over your Monday afternoon. And when you get to the business of driving, the XE S remains a fine device.


Predictably a 380hp swansong hasn't cured some of the baby Jag's biggest bugbears. For a car of this size, there isn't enough room in the back. For a car of this price, some of the materials don't feel expensive enough and the infotainment doesn't work slickly enough. And for a car of this category, there is still a suspicion that a Jaguar badge may not sway buyers as convincingly as an Audi, BMW or Mercedes one.

They should drive the Jaguar; that would help. Because despite the foibles, despite the strength of the opposition and despite this particular car now facing its demise, the XE S is still a delightful car to drive. It fulfils the sports saloon brief so convincingly that you wonder why others struggle to match it; there isn't a super shouty circuit setting, because cars like this won't go on track. By the same token there's not a mode that makes everything super stiff (again often purporting to be sporty) or gearbox calibration that kicks down at the merest toe flex. The XE isa relaxing yet engaging car to drive quickly in Britain, comfortable yet charming and rather good fun, too.


The engine is a key part of that appeal, and it would be a huge surprise to find the four-cylinder replacement able to equal it. A V6 twice the size of a Fiesta ST's engine (and with twice the cylinders) probably looks indulgent nowadays, but what it means is that the XE always has a delicious surfeit of power and torque. Not in a wild, uncontrollable, muscle car kind of way, rather the kind that means you always have the performance you need in any gear, at any revs. The XE is as accommodating of shuffling through the ratios on a broad torque curve as it is singing out to 7,000rpm, supercharger providing instant throttle response and speed disdainfully accrued. We're used to supersaloons toting more than 600hp now, though don't forget the XE's 380hp peak comes with a 1,635kg kerbweight; an E39 M5, by comparison, boasted 400hp and 1,825kg, so it's certainly fast. Really bloody rapid might describe it a bit better, if only that didn't sound so uncouth.

And it sounds fabulous. V6s aren't absent in this sector - see the Audi S4 and the Mercedes-AMG C43 - though there's something more purposeful and authentic about the Jag's noise. The sharp, angry bark is familiar from the F-Type, albeit at a slightly more subdued, marginally less boisterous volume here. Again, this much engine noise may seem a bit gratuitous - but, hey, if you've got it then flaunt it, right?


Combine this engine with a good gearbox and a chassis of real talent and it's easy to see why the XE is so likeable. It's better damped than a 340i, more engaging than an S4 and more nimble than a Kia Stinger. The Jaguar is not a car for on the limit (or beyond), but that's entirely the point; the XE feels like it's been designed with brisk road driving in mind, because that's what saloons do, and that's where it excels. The ride retains some Jag suppleness, even on big wheels, yet also deals authoritatively with what the road offers up. The steering remains one of the best EPAS set ups out there and the balance of grip between front and rear is spot on - familiar comment though it may sound, this is a beautifully sorted Jag chassis.

That's most likely true for all other XEs; what make this one different of course is what's being lost, and what we keep banging on about: a rousing, potent, exciting supercharged V6, an engine that makes a great sound and delivers all the performance you could ever realistically need. When we drove this engine in the XF, it was described as "deeply likeable", concluding that being "a more traditionally luxurious offering is perhaps the strongest asset it has." And the same feels true for the XE; you probably don't need a supercharged V6 with the best part of 400hp, but it's very, very hard to think of going with anything less after a drive - it really is lovely. The significant test for the four-cylinder replacement will be in whether it can deliver the same level of emotional appeal as this V6, and not simply produce the numbers to match it. The two per cent who did opt for a V6 chose very well, because, while flawed, this XE is a joy to drive. And with secondhand, 340hp examples from just £22,000, there's arguably more reason than ever to plump for one now.


SPECIFICATION - JAGUAR XE S

Engine: 2,995cc, supercharged V6
Transmission: 8-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 380@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 331@3,500-5,000rpm
0-62mph: 5.0secs
Top speed: 155mph
Weight: 1,635kg (kerbweight)
MPG: 34.0 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 194g/km
Price: £48,045

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Images: Dafydd Wood

 

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arkenphel

Original Poster:

484 posts

206 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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"It's better damped than a 340i, more engaging than an S4 and more nimble than a Kia Stinger."

Damping on the 340i is poor, S4 isn't really engaging, and the Kia isn't the most nimble out there, to be honest.

It's like saying someone's mum is a fit bird, fitter than Dame Edna.

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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arkenphel said:
"It's better damped than a 340i, more engaging than an S4 and more nimble than a Kia Stinger."

Damping on the 340i is poor, S4 isn't really engaging, and the Kia isn't the most nimble out there, to be honest.

It's like saying someone's mum is a fit bird, fitter than Dame Edna.
And its even more academic as it's a lot more expensive than the others....and now been discontinued, replaced by a 4-pot pushing out 80bhp less.

RIP Jaguar. William Lyons is spinning in his grave.

Toltec

7,161 posts

224 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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arkenphel said:
"It's better damped than a 340i, more engaging than an S4 and more nimble than a Kia Stinger."

Damping on the 340i is poor, S4 isn't really engaging, and the Kia isn't the most nimble out there, to be honest.

It's like saying someone's mum is a fit bird, fitter than Dame Edna.
"For a car of this price, some of the materials don't feel expensive enough and the infotainment doesn't work slickly enough."

It like saying you should go out with a girl because she has an iPhone and Ugg boots, rather than the brain of an astrophysicist and the body of a yoga instructor.

schmalex

13,616 posts

207 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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We have an XE, albeit the 2.0d R Line 180.

Simply put, it is bloody awful. I thought the X Type we had 15 years or so ago was the worst Jaguar could do, but the XE has given it a jolly good run for its money.

In the three years we’ve had it, it’s spent nearly 20 weeks back at the dealership getting various bits, that weren’t built well enough in the first place, replaced. On the rare occasions we have had it back, it rattles and squeaks, the engine sounds like a bag of spanners and it eats tyres.

Thank goodness it’s coming to the end of its lease. It’ll be going back to Jaguar and we’ll spend our money on a decent car from a premium marque.

Edited by schmalex on Tuesday 8th May 18:18

Notanotherturbo

494 posts

208 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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The German premium brands are no better to be honest, if you want something reliable and premium I'd go for a Lexus.

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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Notanotherturbo said:
The German premium brands are no better to be honest, if you want something reliable and premium I'd go for a Lexus.
Really don't get the Lexus love-in. I didn't look this last time, but the previous three times I changed my cars I looked at Lexus, and was wholly unimpressed.

Interesting styling, but just not a good drive. Made Audi feel dynamic, and just didn't feel premium. Don't want to fall into the 'just a posh Toyota' cliche, but that is how it felt.

fatboy b

9,500 posts

217 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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schmalex said:
We have an XE, albeit the 2.0d R Line 180.

Simply put, it is bloody awful. I thought the X Type we had 15 years or so ago was the worst Jaguar could do, but the XE has given it a jolly good run for its money.

In the three years we’ve had it, it’s spent nearly 20 weeks back at the dealership getting various bits, that weren’t built well enough in the first place, replaced. On the rare occasions we have had it back, it rattles and squeaks, the engine sounds like a bag of spanners and it eats tyres.

Thank goodness it’s coming to the end of its lease. It’ll be going back to Jaguar and we’ll spend our money on a decent car from a premium marque.

Edited by schmalex on Tuesday 8th May 18:18
Our Golf is worse. Just over two years old and 15 dealer visits to sort shoddy build quality. Worse car we’ve ever had. Never again.

unsprung

5,467 posts

125 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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whatever shortcomings some people may perceive in this car as new... it is likely to be an ideal purchase used

and let's remember: the straight-six is on its way


PH article said:
We're used to supersaloons toting more than 600hp now
yes, and isn't that fact astonishing



fatboy b

9,500 posts

217 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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unsprung said:
and let's remember: the straight-six is on its way
Don’t be too sure about that. It’s already over a year late

MC Bodge

21,708 posts

176 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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unsprung said:
yes, and isn't that fact astonishing
...and silly!

Ares

11,000 posts

121 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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MC Bodge said:
unsprung said:
yes, and isn't that fact astonishing
...and silly!
You've miss-spelled the word 'f-u-n' wink

HardMiles

320 posts

87 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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Haha! These comments cracked me up! I’ve just got my first ever Jag. A 2002 XKR and it’s great. But I know just what people are on about.

My colleague has an XE and it is, well, bks. It feels like a toy car in comparison with my BMW G30. That, I would really recommend.

fatboy b

9,500 posts

217 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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HardMiles said:
Haha! These comments cracked me up! I’ve just got my first ever Jag. A 2002 XKR and it’s great. But I know just what people are on about.

My colleague has an XE and it is, well, bks. It feels like a toy car in comparison with my BMW G30. That, I would really recommend.
You do realise the XE and G30 are in different sectors don’t you rolleyes

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

157 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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So fewer than 1 in 50 XE/XF jags sold had the 6 cylinder petrol engine.

That's a truly sad state of affairs. Who can blame Jaguar if the demand just isn't their?

Jazzy Jag

3,432 posts

92 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
So fewer than 1 in 50 XE/XF jags sold had the 6 cylinder petrol engine.

That's a truly sad state of affairs. Who can blame Jaguar if the demand just isn't their?
That and WLTP regs mean that you won't be able to register one in 12 month time.

cry

Jags should be a straight 6 anyway wink


dunnoreally

977 posts

109 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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schmalex said:
I thought the X Type we had 15 years or so ago was the worst Jaguar could do
I like my X Type...boxedin

Jazzy Jag

3,432 posts

92 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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dunnoreally said:
schmalex said:
I thought the X Type we had 15 years or so ago was the worst Jaguar could do
I like my X Type...boxedin
I loved both of my XEs.

The only reason I went for the Disco Sport was practicality, having 7 seats.

cerb4.5lee

30,804 posts

181 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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schmalex said:
We have an XE, albeit the 2.0d R Line 180.

Simply put, it is bloody awful. I thought the X Type we had 15 years or so ago was the worst Jaguar could do, but the XE has given it a jolly good run for its money.

In the three years we’ve had it, it’s spent nearly 20 weeks back at the dealership getting various bits, that weren’t built well enough in the first place, replaced. On the rare occasions we have had it back, it rattles and squeaks, the engine sounds like a bag of spanners and it eats tyres.

Thank goodness it’s coming to the end of its lease. It’ll be going back to Jaguar and we’ll spend our money on a decent car from a premium marque.

Edited by schmalex on Tuesday 8th May 18:18
This is how I perceive JLR products to be like, its a real shame that the reality lives up to the perception. I do like most of their products though but I'm not brave enough to gamble on them.

Chafford1

211 posts

232 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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The F Type is now the only Jaguar model you can get the 340 and 380hp petrol V6 in the UK. Dropped from the XE, XF, XJ and F Pace. V8 also dropped from the XJ in the UK. XF and XJ only have diesel V6 if you want 6 cylinders.

Edited by Chafford1 on Wednesday 9th May 03:24

JD

2,779 posts

229 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
So fewer than 1 in 50 XE/XF jags sold had the 6 cylinder petrol engine.

That's a truly sad state of affairs. Who can blame Jaguar if the demand just isn't their?
Who can blame consumers when Jaguar manage to make car full of aluminium so heavy and with a power train that uses so much fuel!

I bet comparing to the numbers of 6 cyl BMW’s sold tells the tale of how wide of the mark Jag has been on the engineering front with the XE.