RE: Fiat Panda 100HP: PH Used Buying Guide

RE: Fiat Panda 100HP: PH Used Buying Guide

Thursday 24th May 2018

Fiat Panda 100HP: PH Used Buying Guide

In the market for this mildly hot Italian hatch? Here's everything you need to know...



The second generation of Fiat's Panda proved an instant, and big, hit for the Italian company. It didn't really need to bother with anything other than the meandering mainstream models, so the 100HP was a very welcome bonus track when it arrived in late 2006.

Fitting into the warm bracket rather than an outright hot hatch, the Panda 100HP came with a 1.4-litre petrol engine with a power output that gave the car its name. Tipping the scales at 975kg, this was enough to see the Fiat from 0-62mph in 9.5 seconds and on to 115mph.

Those figures won't win many pub debates, but the Panda was much more about the bits in between the straights. So it came with suspension that sat 25mm lower than a standard version's and chunky 15-inch alloy wheels sat in the arches. The suspension was also firmed up by twenty five per cent to make the car more agile, though this was at the expense of some comfort.


A bold plastic body kit gives the 100HP a Jack Russell presence that hints it can hold its own. On the inside, Fiat added sports seats, a leather-bound steering wheel and a Sport button where other Pandas have a City switch. This sharpens throttle and steering feel, though it can make the accelerator too sensitive for town use and many thought the steering overly assisted when it was launched.

The brakes were improved with Punto front discs and Panda 4x4 rears. As an option, Fiat offered ESP for £440 on 100HPs. Also available was a Pandemonium Pack that added red-painted brake calipers, silver-painted door mirrors and alloy wheels, chrome side decals and unique pedals and mats.

However, it was the handling that endeared the Panda 100HP to the press and buyers alike. Those customers were a select group as fewer than 2,000 examples of this model were sold in the UK, which has helped bolster used prices and soften depreciation. It's now possible to find a decent 100HP from £2,000, while the very best are double that from the end of production in 2011.

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Buyer's checklist

Bodywork and interior
It's a budget Italian, so check all of the electrics work.
Upholstery wears on lower rear cushion, base and bolsters. Original fabric is hard to come by now.
Paint is thinly applied from the factory, so expect plenty of stone chips and signs of them being touched up.
The 100HP's plastic body kit wears well, so just look for any gouges that spoil the appearance.
Check the drain holes under the plastic panel around the wipers are not blocked with leaves and muck. If they become clogged, water can spill into the passenger footwell.
Steering wheel and gear knob wear quickly and look scruffy, but new ones are cheap direct from Fiat.


Engine and transmission
Head gasket failure is the engine's only weak spot if the coolant hasn't been changed regularly with a quality mix and the level is kept correctly topped up.
Services come at 12,000-mile intervals and the timing belt tension should be checked at every third service. If there's any slack, the belt needs to be replaced.
The six-speed manual gearbox is trouble-free, but look for oil leaks where it joins the engine.
Clutches can wear out more quickly than you expect, but should last 50,000 miles even with sustained town use.
Around 40mpg is easily possible in normal driving, dropping to 30mpg when using the full 6,500rpm limit.


Suspension and steering
First off, make sure you're happy with the ride quality as some find the 100HP's suspension too firm for longer commutes and motorway use.
Shock absorbers begin to leak due to rust, especially along a welded seam. Feel for any untoward bounce on a test drive and check the dampers for signs of damp from seeping oil. A full set of replacement KYB shocks is £400.
Rear bump stops are a common failure as they were not fixed to the car very well at the factory. Replacements are £12 and easy to fit.
Suspension alignment wasn't great from the factory and uneven tyre wear is common. A specialist set-up to get the tracking in the middle of the tolerances will avoid this but needs re-checking every 12 months to maintain settings.
Electric power steering motor, ECU and position sensor are all prone to failure. Feel for any excessive heaviness in the steering in normal mode without the Sport setting engaged.


Wheels, tyres and brakes
Upgrading the brakes with pads from the Punto is a common modification, but otherwise the 100HP's stoppers are fine. New pads are £35 per set for the front and rear, while discs come in at £70 for a front pair and £30 for the rears.

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SPECIFICATION: FIAT PANDA 100HP

Engine: 1,368cc 4-cyl
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 100@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 97@4,250rpm
MPG: 43.5
CO2: 154g/km
Price new: £9,995
Price now: £2,000 upwards

Author
Discussion

HardMiles

Original Poster:

319 posts

86 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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These do look like fun! Some more nice Beachy Head photos. Do we have an EB local at PH?

Adventures of Sleepy Dave

1 posts

89 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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here's a curve ball, i bought a 2003 daihatsu sirion 4trak
850kg 103hp and four wheel drive, cost less than £2k revved to around 8, went anywhere and was a thorough hoot to drive........
until i put it into a tree.

now being turned into pick up......

HannsG

3,045 posts

134 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Great for parking, but coming from an M3 and after nearly two years I've had enough of how slow it is.

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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I've always liked these. They just look so cool IMO. My issue is that i don't like sitting high-up, which you can't really get away from. You've also got the competition, like the Swift Sport or the Twingo 133, that are a bit quicker and could also be a bit more desirable. At this price point, you could even go for a proper hot-hatch and get a Clio 172/182, but the running costs will be higher.

Paraicj

502 posts

141 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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I've had mine 2 years now, and it has been brilliant. I have driven plenty of motorway journeys, and it can be a bit bouncy, but it is mostly just grat. I've changed the bump-stops, got new discs and pads and had it fully serviced and the costs are so small for the enjoyment you get. The only issues I have had were a passenger widnow regulator failure (The whole motor had to be replaced, still less than £100 including labour) and replacing a rusted-through exhaust system (Not as cheap a replacement).

It also fits two full-suss mountain bikes in the back with the wheels off, and the roof-bars direct from Fiat are cheap but good. Not much to complain about all round! It just passed it's MOT with no advisories at 11yrs old and is off to the Scottish Highlands from the Midlands next weekend. No plans to sell any time soon, I got it for £1800 and equivalent cars are closer to £2500 now.

Frimley111R

15,661 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Is it my imagination or wasn't there something on these cars a week or so ago?

Mince

82 posts

121 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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It's like you knew I was looking !

Fishy Dave

1,026 posts

245 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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We owned one for a couple of years as a runabout.

Things my wife and I liked:
Proportions are perfect for B roads
5 doors
Nice gearchange
Quick enough
Reasonable economy.

Dislikes:
The ride is exceptionally hard (I'm used to that after years with a Caterham and Z4M).
A shame you can't mix/swap the throttle response and steering with sport and normal modes.
We only took it on track once and sadly all it wanted to do was understeer (that's with new tyres on the front too).
The build quality is cheap (but to be expected at the price).
Bluetooth wouldn't work with our modern phones.
Paint as mentioned in the article is thin, plus the 'red' was various shades and I am certain the panels were original.
If you are tall and lower the seat base you will feel a bar pressing against your lower back.
Did I mention the ride?
Rear brake lines corroded (not a problem), but had to wait for parts from Italy meaning the car was off the road for weeks.

Would we have one again? No, but it wasn't the worst car we've owned.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Think it's pretty unfair people mentioning things like it's slow and that the interior is cheap. It's a £10k Fiat based on a car that's even cheaper, what do you expect? If you want speed, buy something else. If you want a luxurious interior and magic carpet ride, buy something else.

If however you can see through all the top trump stuff. If you want a pretty rare and unique car, one that doesn't follow the herd and one which you wont see another one of on the road for months at a time. If you can appreciate that simplicity, lack of weight and lack of complexity adds to the driver experience. If you want a car that's a hoot around town, a hoot around narrow country lanes and feels like you're driving a million miles an hour, whilst actually keeping within the speed limits and remaining thoroughly practical in the process, then buy one of these.

uremaw

300 posts

197 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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I've always had a hankering for one of these, much to my wife's disgust. I suspect it might start to grate as as longer term ownership prospect, but I think it might be a cheap and fun runaround for a year or so. Maybe next year.

lufbramatt

5,345 posts

134 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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One of my mates has one of these, he wanted to like it, but now hates it, it's not fast nor fun enough to warrant the appalling ride quality.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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I drove one of these for a week in Majorca, not the 100hp version but I would say it was very easy to park with a high up position but really not a drivers car in any way apart from that and not just due to the lack of power
Everything about it was crap apart from the height & size
However - I did enjoy driving it. I taught myself to heel & toe in it on the winding mountain roads.
But really - crap car not a petrolhead car. £2k for me would be a mark 4 Golf GTi turbo or VAG equivalent which can be made to handle and go very fast with not too much effort

galaxie5000

31 posts

142 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Well, yes as its not a 100hp. No other Panda is remotely sporty..

Picking mine up tonight!!

smiller147

60 posts

92 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Tell you what if I was in the market for a little city car I'd definitely think about one of these and buy a turbo kit...I'm not one to tune my cars but can't imagine if anything was to go wrong it would cost a fortune.

Mike1990

964 posts

131 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Always kinda liked these, but would be heading for Yaris T-Sport or Ignis Sport instead (if you could find a good one) No real reason i just prefer them, probably the Ignis.

I read on a forum once, a user had a Panda 100hp and then a 182 Trophy, said the Panda handled better...

I do like these lower powered Warm Hatches, took my Mums Mini Cooper R56 out for a blast a few days ago on local b-roads, feeling like your going fast when in reality your not. It’s rather refreshing.

CarlosSainz100

495 posts

120 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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I'm after one of these.
It might be missing the point somewhat, but how easy/hard is it to stick a turbo on one of these?

Sammarine

37 posts

120 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Just as much fun as my EP3 Type R and my Clio 200RS. Loved by the journalist and underrated by so many. I probably should have kept mine and chucked a bucket seat in it.

ScoobyChris

1,682 posts

202 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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CarlosSainz100 said:
I'm after one of these.
It might be missing the point somewhat, but how easy/hard is it to stick a turbo on one of these?
Back when I had one I looked into it and it appeared to be a readily available off the shelf bolt on kit (maybe from the Grande Punto?). However, I’d say before adding power you probably want to sort out the damping to eliminate bouncing which limited speed anyway!

Chris

Gorbyrev

1,160 posts

154 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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A worthy member of the momentum preservation society, four wheel drifting everywhre, the brakes could last a lifetime! When was the last buying guide that said a know fault could be fixed for £12 per side! Got to love the Panda!

BricktopST205

900 posts

134 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Ignis Sport a far better buy in my opinion and has homologation roots! I thrash mine everywhere and still get 40mpg! Lovely gearbox, engine sounds good for a 4 banger and has fishnet recaros! Mine has the optional fog lights and 16" San Remo wheels.







Edited by BricktopST205 on Friday 25th May 09:14