RE: Sebastien Loeb: PH Meets

RE: Sebastien Loeb: PH Meets

Saturday 26th May 2018

Sebastien Loeb: PH Meets

Just hours before Citroen announced the sacking of Kris Meeke, we sat down with the man who many hope will replace him...



Sebastien Loeb, then. You may have heard of him. A nine time World Rally Champion, X Games gold medalist and Pikes Peak record holder, he's also finished second at Le Mans, won six rounds of the World Touring Car Championship and led the Dakar rally. In 2012 he founded his own team, Sebastien Loeb Racing, and today continues to compete at the sharp end of the grid in the World Rallycross Championship. We sat down with the man himself to find out how he's getting on, if there's any chance of him going back, and what he plans to do next.

 


You won your most recent race in Belgium, how do you think the season is going so far?
"It's going quite well, I'm second in the championship so it's a good start. It's always a bit difficult to predict in Rallycross what will happen, sometimes you can have a good weekend sometimes you have a bad one and it depends on small details, but at the moment I've had quite a good start to the season. Not perfect in Barcelona but it was good in Belgium so hopefully we can continue."

Your car this year is a fully in-house Peugeot effort for the first time, how much of a difference has that made?
"For sure, it was important for us to take a step forward, to be more professional and to get more people involved because until last year the main program was the Dakar and it was just little. When you see the different manufacturers involved in the championship now, all working hard, it was important that we also take a step if we wanted to improve our chances. What I feel today is that it's really more professional, we have more people around the place, more engineers working on the development of the new evolutions, so I think today what I can feel is that the car is more reliable, the team is more professional and we are working to try to get closer to perfection, and I think that's what we need if we want the chance to win."


You've also brought your own team, Sebastien Loeb Racing, into Rallycross. What are your goals for that?
"We have a young driver who has not a lot of experience and we know for sure that he has room to improve and to understand things, but for sure it was a championship which I wanted to bring my team into because it's a championship I enjoy. I hope we can use the experience to improve, maybe bring in another car one day and also another driver, so that's the goal."

WRX is expected to make the switch to electric cars in 2020, how do you anticipate that will change things as both a driver and a team owner?
"For the team it's difficult to know at the moment, we don't know how it will work, what the price will be, how it will go. For me as a driver, I like these kind of cars [Loeb gestures to his 208 WRX parked alongside us] the normal cars. These are the cars around which my passion for motorsport has grown, my generation we don't dream about electric cars, but if the future for all cars is to be electric then it's normal that we'd make the swap. And in this case I think Rallycross is the best series to do it because it's very short, you have a lot of power, very fast cars and an intense fight, so I hope the spectators will still enjoy it without the noise. I think it will be important to find a way to make it a show, but for sure the performance will be there."


Electrification is set to change the landscapes of a lot of racing formats, at the moment hillclimbs like Pikes Peak are especially a focus with cars like Volkswagens I.D R. As it helps times, and records, to fall can you see yourself going back in a few years to reset your record in an electric car?
"Difficult to say. I would need to have a project with a big manufacturer because you cannot just arrive privately and do it. But we'll see."

You do privately own the 208 T16 with which you set that 8 minute 13.878 second time, though. What're your plans for that?
"The plan was to keep it because it's a very good memory that I have from Pikes Peak and it was the most amazing car that I drove. The sensation, the level of power, of downforce, of grip, of everything, I wanted to keep it. I try sometimes to take it to shows or hillclimbs, I did one last year and I have one in September, just to get back a little of the sensation."


Would you say it's the standout car of your career, then?
"Yes. For sure because a lot of cars have power but this one was amazing, with the tyres and the downforce it was just amazing to drive."

Do you own many other of your former racecars?
"No I have just a McLaren with which I did the GT championship and a C4."


Back to racing, then. You're still involved in the WRC of course and were on the pace in Mexico and Corsica until a puncture and a crash stopped you from competing. How do you explain being able to step back into one of the pinnacles of motorsport so easily?
"It was difficult to know exactly where I'd be and how I would manage but I had the feeling that I hadn't lost anything when I sat in the car. And when I tested the car the feeling came immediately, I didn't think I had lost my speed, so I was happy about it. I have no explanation, no reason, but the feeling was like I had never stopped."

Do your recent performances give you a greater desire to return full-time? Both team principal Pierre Budar and Kris Meeke have expressed their hope that you will.
"When I stopped I knew that I could still be competitive, it was not a question of that, it was a question of other things. The time, my family, everything. Now I enjoy the Rallycross, it's shorter, you don't go for ten days you only go for three. There's a bit more free time and it suits my life at the moment, so I prefer to continue doing this and doing some rally sometimes. The only thing I miss from rallying is the sensation you have in a rally car which you don't get in any other motorsport, but doing a few rallies from time to time is enough I think."


Your time in the World Touring Car Championship was cut unexpectedly short. Do you feel like you have unfinished business there?
"No, it was enough for me, it's not what I prefer. It was interesting to discover, I wanted to do it and see how it works, it was a new challenge and something different but at the end I enjoy the Rallycross much more. I enjoy the discipline the most, as with rally, I had the opportunity to do the Dakar as well, which was a great experience, a very different one, the adventure and everything was great but the driving was not the most exciting."

You also once finished second at Le Mans. With drivers like Jenson Button and Fernando Alonso competing there now, are you at all tempted to see how you stack up against them?
"I've discovered a lot of things in my career, but now I've seen what I wanted to see. I'm happy with the Rallycross, it's exciting, maybe another day I will have an opportunity but I have no plan to go back to Le Mans. If I go to Le Mans it's as a spectator, drinking beer."


So for you it's more about the experience and the adventure than being able to say, "I've won WRC, I've won the Dakar, I've got the Pikes Peak record"...
"For sure if I could win it would be better, but now I prefer to concentrate on the Rallycross championship. It was a lot to do both programs together, I prefer to be a bit more quiet with the Rallycross. Winning the WRC took off some pressure. I could say, 'okay, I'm just rallying because I like it and I'm lucky to have the opportunity to live from my passion' so I just enjoyed it. Dakar? Maybe another time, maybe not, I don't know. This year the winner of the Dakar was 55 years old, Carlos, so I still have time, maybe I was too young before..."







[Images: Red Bull, lead by Stan Papior]

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cholo

Original Poster:

1,129 posts

236 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Interesting article, for sure...

Loyly

18,003 posts

160 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Undoubtedly, the greatest motorsport driver of all time.

trickywoo

11,858 posts

231 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Loyly said:
Undoubtedly, the greatest motorsport driver of all time.
I was just about to call GOAT too.

Seems quite a likeable chap too.

Blayney

2,948 posts

187 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Guy is a legend.

I remember two photos in the WRC off season when Loeb was at his best (is he ever not the best?).

One was of Hirvonen I believe, in a gym with personal trainers on a bike with a mask and sensors attached to him - sweating his tits off.

The other was Loeb. On a yacht in the med. Beer in one hand and a ciggy in the other.

Guess who won the championship that year...

wab172uk

2,005 posts

228 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Loyly said:
Undoubtedly, the greatest motorsport driver of all time.
Would totally agree. If he got back into the WRC full time, I think he'd win the championship in the first year.

spikyone

1,474 posts

101 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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A truly great driver, and as ever he comes across as down to earth and immensely likeable. The fact he owns the Pikes Peak car and takes it out for fun every now and then tells you everything you need to know.

I will never forgive the FIA denying him a F1 superlicence due to lack of experience. It was an utterly ridiculous decision and whilst he might not have been in a race-winning car it would've been incredible to see him taking on that challenge. I'd bet he would've proven himself to be fairly handy.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

164 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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I saw him doing the winning in Belgium 2 weeks ago ,awesome stuff to beat the VWs and Audis.



I didn't even know Kris has been sacked.

Bill Ferry

64 posts

155 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Well, the previous comments have mostly already said this, but..
In my lifetime I grew up watching the 1950's races and the hero's of the day.. Fangio, Moss et al.
In the years since, there have been tremendous events and drivers, all exciting.
But, for style, gallic panache and sheer ability. M. Loeb stands alone, for me.
For me he IS the finest driver of the modern period, a throwback to the Moss era when drivers, drove everything. Something I thought had gone forever. He IS that special.
Number 1.. my hero.
Imagine.. at my age.
[ Actually Fangio is my real hero, for his 1957 W.German GP win..but, shhhhhhh.! ]
Happy days.. enjoy your WE.
WF

Gandahar

9,600 posts

129 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Sadly Meeke's crashed too much. Old hand now on the tiller?

Not sure if it will work but good they have made the change.


Pericoloso

44,044 posts

164 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Without comparing the calendars for clashes ,his preference has to be the World RX ,seeing as he's 2nd in the championship after 3

weekends.

surely ?

I know Citroen and Peugeot are the same company but are their competition departments the same people ?

Squadrone Rosso

2,760 posts

148 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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Massive fan of Loeb.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

164 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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WRC Italy clashes with WRX Hell Norway.
WRC Turkey clashes with WRX Riga Latvia.

Where would anyone prefer to be ,Hell or Sardegna ?

W

ArnageWRC

2,069 posts

160 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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Legend!

However I'm disappointed he has no plans to return to Le Mans, as I think that style of racing is right up his street, rather than the crash, bang, wallop of World RX - which seems more entertainment than proper motorsport.

And if he's got any sense he'll stay away from Citroen, and their awful C3 WRC....

bloomen

6,935 posts

160 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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For sure he killed off interest in the WRC with his utter dominance. For sure not his fault but if I were him I would've at least arranged the occasional puncture to keep things spicy.

Muzzer79

10,075 posts

188 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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bloomen said:
For sure he killed off interest in the WRC with his utter dominance. For sure not his fault but if I were him I would've at least arranged the occasional puncture to keep things spicy.
In fairness, he did break his arm one year to try and give the others a chance but he still won the title then hehe

GravelBen

15,708 posts

231 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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bloomen said:
For sure he killed off interest in the WRC with his utter dominance. For sure not his fault but if I were him I would've at least arranged the occasional puncture to keep things spicy.
Its funny how we remember the massive dominance, but several of his WRC championships were actually very close and IIRC at least one of them would have gone the other way if Ford had used team orders the way Citroen did.

Loyly

18,003 posts

160 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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Some of the pretenders might have been close to Loeb when he was having a bad day but it was never really in any doubt. His clinical driving was destructive to those up against it. Drivers tended to push harder to chase Loeb and as they became more aggressive and ragged, they made mistakes. Similarly, those who got within grasping distance never quite made it and their confidence was shattered knowing their best on a good day wasn't enough to pull in Loeb on a bad day. His mastery of the sport stems not just from his driving ability but from his skill at controlling the field below him by dint of that skill.


GravelBen

15,708 posts

231 months

Monday 28th May 2018
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Loyly said:
Some of the pretenders might have been close to Loeb when he was having a bad day but it was never really in any doubt.
Some of his championships were never in doubt, others... not so much.

2006 he won the championship by one point, but he did miss a few rounds after breaking his leg falling off his bike so I'll give you that one.
2007 he only just beat Gronholm to the championship by a handful of points.
2009 he pipped Hirvonen by one point after Citroen used team orders to give him better placings and Ford could have for Hirvonen, but chose not to.
2011 championship was fairly close too (Loeb 222, Hirvonen 214).

Not taking anything away from his talent or achievements, just tempering the rose-tinted glasses with a few facts.