Buying an Aston Martin
Discussion
Evening all,
I'm in the very lucky position to have inherited some money and intend to use part of that inheritance to purchase myself a car I've always wanted, an Aston Martin. As you all know, it's as much a heart as a head decision - I've thought about Ferrari (too flashy), Lamborghini (too gaudy and shouty), Porsche (too common), Bentley (too old man) and a dozen other smaller makes or mainstream cars like the Audi R8, but none of them make me smile the way the idea of owning an Aston Martin does. I know it's not going to be the ultimate ultimate car with surgical precision like a McLaren but I'm kinda hoping for the theatre, passion and going out to the garage to see it just for the hell of it type feeling. Does that make sense to other Aston owners?
So now it comes to picking the right one... and I think the answer for me is a Vantage. The question for me though is, which one. I've bought the guide to Gaydon era Astons and used that to refine to the point I'm at today. My ideal budget would be up to £80k, but would go a little further if it was perfect in every way. It's not being bought as a short term purchase, but as a car I intend to own for at least a decade if not longer. Today I went to visit Nottingham Aston Martin who I felt were trying to sell me what they had in stock rather than help me understand what I really want better.
Can the collective wisdom of Aston owners here help me answer the following questions by giving me your views on why you made your choice.
Things I've decided on
I'm in the very lucky position to have inherited some money and intend to use part of that inheritance to purchase myself a car I've always wanted, an Aston Martin. As you all know, it's as much a heart as a head decision - I've thought about Ferrari (too flashy), Lamborghini (too gaudy and shouty), Porsche (too common), Bentley (too old man) and a dozen other smaller makes or mainstream cars like the Audi R8, but none of them make me smile the way the idea of owning an Aston Martin does. I know it's not going to be the ultimate ultimate car with surgical precision like a McLaren but I'm kinda hoping for the theatre, passion and going out to the garage to see it just for the hell of it type feeling. Does that make sense to other Aston owners?
So now it comes to picking the right one... and I think the answer for me is a Vantage. The question for me though is, which one. I've bought the guide to Gaydon era Astons and used that to refine to the point I'm at today. My ideal budget would be up to £80k, but would go a little further if it was perfect in every way. It's not being bought as a short term purchase, but as a car I intend to own for at least a decade if not longer. Today I went to visit Nottingham Aston Martin who I felt were trying to sell me what they had in stock rather than help me understand what I really want better.
Can the collective wisdom of Aston owners here help me answer the following questions by giving me your views on why you made your choice.
Things I've decided on
- Manual Gearbox
- MY2012.25 or later because of standard Cruise, Garmin based Nav, uprated brakes HID (from the book)
- Going for sophisticated and classic not shouty as a look... so no green stripes or bright yellow paint
- I'm completely open to either the Coupe or the Roadster. Heart says Roadster because it will sound awesome roof down and most of the chance I'll get to drive it will be on high days on the way to work or trips out solo. I think the coupe looks a little prettier vs roof-up roadster. I'm 35, balding and not exactly powerfully built, will I be the fat git in a soft top? If you picked the Roadster, why did you go that way? If you went Coupe why did you decide against the Roadster?
- V8 Roadster and V12 Coupe are similar money, albeit the V12 would be older... has anyone driven the V12 and thought "actually I'm ok with just the V8"?
- What options are worth looking out for? Thinking Premium Audio is worth looking for but what else?
- Aston Dealer, Specialist like Bamford Rose, Private or other dealer? Who, what and why?
- Colour scheme - I'm thinking either one of a million silvers/greys (yes... sadly I do rather like the "James Bond" look), Black or a deep Red. I don't want anything matte or white. But which leather to go? Wonder about cream with red or black, then black leather with anything else... what did you pick?
- What do you wish you knew before buying your Aston Martin?
- How long did it take you to find the "right" Aston Martin for you?
- Thinking about wanting to go sophisticated more than aggressive, is it better to avoid the S/N4x0 models to skip the Carbon?
Welcome Chris.
You have certainly done your research and narrowed down your requirements. Love your comments about the other marques. How would you describe the perceived Aston Martin image?
I think most of your questions have answers which are personal preference. E.g.. I wanted a coupe because I like the look. Many prefer a Roadster though, because they like them.
I bought mine before the MY2012.25 was introduced, but do like having a car which is 4.7, although still retaining the original beautifully smooth understated bodywork.
In your position I would be considering a V12 Vantsge. They really are a special piece of AM history. Values have held solidly for years. The V8 is 0 to jail in 10 seconds, but even so, many V8V owners have made the change to the V12V. They say here, don't test drive a V12V until you are ready, because you will buy it.
Good luck with your search. In my case it took 12 months to wait for what I wanted. You mentioned leather colours. Having a set choice, other than black, may make it very difficult to find what you have in mind.
Edited by Jon39 on Tuesday 29th May 23:12
First up good choice. I completely agree with your logic and although we all like a shouty car from time to time an Aston is for life, not just for showing off.
I’ve owned an 07 4.3 Coupe Manual and now a 2013 4.7 Roadster manual. Both in tungsten silver with black interior. The coupe is definitely better looking when compared with Roadster roof up. Roof down I’d say they are both equally good looking. My roadster has all the new body kit which doesn’t have he purity of the original design but does make it look a little more aggressive and modern.
Enginewise the 4.7 is a step up vs the 4.3 but will never compare with the v12. If you can afford both then drive a V12. If you can’t then don’t and you won’t miss it. The 4.7 really is a great engine with more than enough poke and noise. It doesn’t sound quite as good as the 4.3 but if you go roadster then this is offset when the roof is down. Roof up the roadster can be a little quiet for my liking.
You always have to compromise a little with 2nd hand cars but most are well specced. I compromised on my roadster as a great car came up with everything except premium audio. Given that the roof is normally down I figured I could live without the premium hifi for a low mileage one owner manual.
Tungsten is a good silver/grey colour with a slight fleck in sunlight. There are plenty of other shades of grey that also look great. Interior wise my first choice would have been a dark red that I think is called Iron Ore. You don’t see it very often but I think it looks great. I settled on black as a safe compromise with a silver car. A lighter interior can reflect on the windscreen.
I’m not too bothered by seat options but others have strong views and may recommend sports seats.
Between the coupe and roadster it really is hard to choose. I love both. Maybe on balance the roadster wins because it is great to get the roof down. Having said that my next car may be a V12 coupe.
Enjoy the search.
I’ve owned an 07 4.3 Coupe Manual and now a 2013 4.7 Roadster manual. Both in tungsten silver with black interior. The coupe is definitely better looking when compared with Roadster roof up. Roof down I’d say they are both equally good looking. My roadster has all the new body kit which doesn’t have he purity of the original design but does make it look a little more aggressive and modern.
Enginewise the 4.7 is a step up vs the 4.3 but will never compare with the v12. If you can afford both then drive a V12. If you can’t then don’t and you won’t miss it. The 4.7 really is a great engine with more than enough poke and noise. It doesn’t sound quite as good as the 4.3 but if you go roadster then this is offset when the roof is down. Roof up the roadster can be a little quiet for my liking.
You always have to compromise a little with 2nd hand cars but most are well specced. I compromised on my roadster as a great car came up with everything except premium audio. Given that the roof is normally down I figured I could live without the premium hifi for a low mileage one owner manual.
Tungsten is a good silver/grey colour with a slight fleck in sunlight. There are plenty of other shades of grey that also look great. Interior wise my first choice would have been a dark red that I think is called Iron Ore. You don’t see it very often but I think it looks great. I settled on black as a safe compromise with a silver car. A lighter interior can reflect on the windscreen.
I’m not too bothered by seat options but others have strong views and may recommend sports seats.
Between the coupe and roadster it really is hard to choose. I love both. Maybe on balance the roadster wins because it is great to get the roof down. Having said that my next car may be a V12 coupe.
Enjoy the search.
You have got a nice choice to make, here my thoughts to help you along the way 
1. I'm completely open to either the Coupe or the Roadster. Heart says Roadster because it will sound awesome roof down and most of the chance I'll get to drive it will be on high days on the way to work or trips out solo. I think the coupe looks a little prettier vs roof-up roadster. I'm 35, balding and not exactly powerfully built, will I be the fat git in a soft top? If you picked the Roadster, why did you go that way? If you went Coupe why did you decide against the Roadster?
I had a coupe because thats all that was available at the time. Prefer the Roadster but could never justify the cost to change until a couple of years ago when I traded the coupe in for a 2012.25 Roadster. I love it, sounds great, looks perfect roof down, which is most of the time. Like yours would be its a sunny day car, although I do use it for work in nice weather. I just prefer open cars.
2. V8 Roadster and V12 Coupe are similar money, albeit the V12 would be older... has anyone driven the V12 and thought "actually I'm ok with just the V8"?
If you are decided on a Roadster you will need to up the budget quite a bit, so you are really looking at an early V12V coupe. It is a fantastic car, the noise and performance increase is significant. However when you stop using the performance and look around you, the rest of the experience is pretty much the same; you are in a Vantage. I would really like a V12V Roadster next, but the V8 is a nice place to be in the meanwhile. I wouldn't swap my Roadster for a V12 coupe, I prefer to wait for a V12VR. Drive both and see what you think - if you value the Roadster experience more than the extra shove of the V12......
3. What options are worth looking out for? Thinking Premium Audio is worth looking for but what else?
Most are pretty well specced, I wouldn't be without heated seats in the Roadster (nice on cooler days), HID lights, premium stereo is very nice but not a deal breaker, memory seats useful if your partner will be driving it often. 2012.25 Roadsters already have sports suspension as standard, otherwise thats nice, as are the wider wheels that come standard from then.
5. Aston Dealer, Specialist like Bamford Rose, Private or other dealer? Who, what and why?
Any of them for the right car. The dealer warranty may be more comprehensive (need to read the small print of any aftermarket warranty offered) and you may get slightly more car for your money at Indy, but I dont think there is that much in it really. The Aston indy network is very good. I would say the average standard at Indies overall is better than the average of dealers. Main dealers really are hit and miss in my experience. I would say I would go back to 2 dealers out of 7 ive used in 12 years, but would use all of the Indies ive used in the past for various things.
6. Colour scheme - I'm thinking either one of a million silvers/greys (yes... sadly I do rather like the "James Bond" look), Black or a deep Red. I don't want anything matte or white. But which leather to go? Wonder about cream with red or black, then black leather with anything else... what did you pick?
Im happy with a plain black interior, although some of the more subdued two tone or contrast stitches are acceptable. Had a black coupe for 10 years, it looked awesome when clean, but didn't stay that way for long. My Roadster is Tungsten silver, which I really like. It changes colour a little on a sunny day, most importantly its really easy to look after, and stays looking clean for weeks rather than a few days.
7. What do you wish you knew before buying your Aston Martin?
How much I would become attached to it, I figured I would have got bored within a few years, but still love driving it now, it suits me and my usage perfectly
8. How long did it take you to find the "right" Aston Martin for you?
There was still a waiting list when I got the first one, ex demo, was a choice of 3 black in the dealer network, so just bought the nearest and first one I viewed. More recently when looking for the Roadster for about 6-9 months. I wanted a MY2012.25 manual with under 30k miles with some particular wheels that I prefer. It seemed were less than 1/2 dozen manual Roadsters in the country for sale so it took a while to find the right one.
9.Thinking about wanting to go sophisticated more than aggressive, is it better to avoid the S/N4x0 models to skip the Carbon?
Personal preference really, manual N430 Roadster are very rare. S model is nice if you find one and everything else suits, doubt you would notice the carbon that much. Really is up to you.
Have fun looking, and post some pics up when you find "the one"
1. I'm completely open to either the Coupe or the Roadster. Heart says Roadster because it will sound awesome roof down and most of the chance I'll get to drive it will be on high days on the way to work or trips out solo. I think the coupe looks a little prettier vs roof-up roadster. I'm 35, balding and not exactly powerfully built, will I be the fat git in a soft top? If you picked the Roadster, why did you go that way? If you went Coupe why did you decide against the Roadster?
I had a coupe because thats all that was available at the time. Prefer the Roadster but could never justify the cost to change until a couple of years ago when I traded the coupe in for a 2012.25 Roadster. I love it, sounds great, looks perfect roof down, which is most of the time. Like yours would be its a sunny day car, although I do use it for work in nice weather. I just prefer open cars.
2. V8 Roadster and V12 Coupe are similar money, albeit the V12 would be older... has anyone driven the V12 and thought "actually I'm ok with just the V8"?
If you are decided on a Roadster you will need to up the budget quite a bit, so you are really looking at an early V12V coupe. It is a fantastic car, the noise and performance increase is significant. However when you stop using the performance and look around you, the rest of the experience is pretty much the same; you are in a Vantage. I would really like a V12V Roadster next, but the V8 is a nice place to be in the meanwhile. I wouldn't swap my Roadster for a V12 coupe, I prefer to wait for a V12VR. Drive both and see what you think - if you value the Roadster experience more than the extra shove of the V12......
3. What options are worth looking out for? Thinking Premium Audio is worth looking for but what else?
Most are pretty well specced, I wouldn't be without heated seats in the Roadster (nice on cooler days), HID lights, premium stereo is very nice but not a deal breaker, memory seats useful if your partner will be driving it often. 2012.25 Roadsters already have sports suspension as standard, otherwise thats nice, as are the wider wheels that come standard from then.
5. Aston Dealer, Specialist like Bamford Rose, Private or other dealer? Who, what and why?
Any of them for the right car. The dealer warranty may be more comprehensive (need to read the small print of any aftermarket warranty offered) and you may get slightly more car for your money at Indy, but I dont think there is that much in it really. The Aston indy network is very good. I would say the average standard at Indies overall is better than the average of dealers. Main dealers really are hit and miss in my experience. I would say I would go back to 2 dealers out of 7 ive used in 12 years, but would use all of the Indies ive used in the past for various things.
6. Colour scheme - I'm thinking either one of a million silvers/greys (yes... sadly I do rather like the "James Bond" look), Black or a deep Red. I don't want anything matte or white. But which leather to go? Wonder about cream with red or black, then black leather with anything else... what did you pick?
Im happy with a plain black interior, although some of the more subdued two tone or contrast stitches are acceptable. Had a black coupe for 10 years, it looked awesome when clean, but didn't stay that way for long. My Roadster is Tungsten silver, which I really like. It changes colour a little on a sunny day, most importantly its really easy to look after, and stays looking clean for weeks rather than a few days.
7. What do you wish you knew before buying your Aston Martin?
How much I would become attached to it, I figured I would have got bored within a few years, but still love driving it now, it suits me and my usage perfectly
8. How long did it take you to find the "right" Aston Martin for you?
There was still a waiting list when I got the first one, ex demo, was a choice of 3 black in the dealer network, so just bought the nearest and first one I viewed. More recently when looking for the Roadster for about 6-9 months. I wanted a MY2012.25 manual with under 30k miles with some particular wheels that I prefer. It seemed were less than 1/2 dozen manual Roadsters in the country for sale so it took a while to find the right one.
9.Thinking about wanting to go sophisticated more than aggressive, is it better to avoid the S/N4x0 models to skip the Carbon?
Personal preference really, manual N430 Roadster are very rare. S model is nice if you find one and everything else suits, doubt you would notice the carbon that much. Really is up to you.
Have fun looking, and post some pics up when you find "the one"
Nice thread, good to see you've done your research too.
The only thing I'll add V8 vs V12 is the V12 has potentially higher running costs. Without prying on your personal situation servicing the V12 can be a little more expensive. Things to consider are the v12 is thirstier, if you need spark plugs and coilpacks then there are 12 vs 8. It takes more oil. Probably the largest potential cost would be the carbon ceramic discs and pads vs the standard discs and pads on the v8.
If you're happy and unconcerned with the above then consider the V12. Whatever your choice I'm sure you'll be happy.
The only thing I'll add V8 vs V12 is the V12 has potentially higher running costs. Without prying on your personal situation servicing the V12 can be a little more expensive. Things to consider are the v12 is thirstier, if you need spark plugs and coilpacks then there are 12 vs 8. It takes more oil. Probably the largest potential cost would be the carbon ceramic discs and pads vs the standard discs and pads on the v8.
If you're happy and unconcerned with the above then consider the V12. Whatever your choice I'm sure you'll be happy.
dbs2000 said:
Nice thread, good to see you've done your research too.
The only thing I'll add V8 vs V12 is the V12 has potentially higher running costs. Without prying on your personal situation servicing the V12 can be a little more expensive. Things to consider are the v12 is thirstier, if you need spark plugs and coilpacks then there are 12 vs 8. It takes more oil. Probably the largest potential cost would be the carbon ceramic discs and pads vs the standard discs and pads on the v8.
If you're happy and unconcerned with the above then consider the V12. Whatever your choice I'm sure you'll be happy.
My reply to the above is the plugs don't need changing now till 70000 miles unless they start failing, think its about £1000 at a MD to do, not sure about coil packs. Oil is pretty expensive but once a year depending on mileage, not too bad. CCD's I have been told if not tracked should see 100,000 miles, not too sure about that.The only thing I'll add V8 vs V12 is the V12 has potentially higher running costs. Without prying on your personal situation servicing the V12 can be a little more expensive. Things to consider are the v12 is thirstier, if you need spark plugs and coilpacks then there are 12 vs 8. It takes more oil. Probably the largest potential cost would be the carbon ceramic discs and pads vs the standard discs and pads on the v8.
If you're happy and unconcerned with the above then consider the V12. Whatever your choice I'm sure you'll be happy.
MPG wise my averages 18.7, this includes some runs at 70mph on motorways, some spirited driving and some short trips, mine is also running close to 600bhp so a little more eventful when you press the loud pedal
Hi Chris
It sounds like you’ve done plenty of research so probably don’t need too much in the way of advice from us on here! Your budget gives you plenty of options but I’m a little biased and would suggest a test drive in a V12V is a must before you decide. As stated earlier, many here have moved on to a V12V from a V8V. A test drive usually nails the decision. It’s been said many times, but if you drive one you will buy one. They really are very special cars, the like of which will probably never be seen again. Good luck finding your ideal car.
Best Regards
Minglar
It sounds like you’ve done plenty of research so probably don’t need too much in the way of advice from us on here! Your budget gives you plenty of options but I’m a little biased and would suggest a test drive in a V12V is a must before you decide. As stated earlier, many here have moved on to a V12V from a V8V. A test drive usually nails the decision. It’s been said many times, but if you drive one you will buy one. They really are very special cars, the like of which will probably never be seen again. Good luck finding your ideal car.
Best Regards
Minglar
Great thread. After coming from a number of Porsche's i wanted something different. I also don't like getting rinsed on a car purchase so wanted a car that i wasn't going to lose a great deal. So that journey initially took me to the manual V12 Vantage - fairly rare & unlikely to fall much in value & more likely to increase. I strolled along to Aston Works - my nearest main dealer. I went out with a Pro Driver for over an hours drive in the V12Vantage. It was awesome but this was my first experience in an Aston - I was trying to take it all in & even just walking into Aston Works is an amazing experience in itself. The car was the best part of £85K - I could have stretched with extra finance but thats a lot of money for me. I was left unsure whether to pull the trigger tbh.. So next trip was to Aston Welwyn - I still wanted a Vantage that was a little bit different & also felt I needed to try at least another car before deciding. I test drove their MY2013 V8VS manual coupe. Loved it. To me it felt a little more nimble, still plenty of grunt from the 4.7. The 'S' also had for me the right balance of classic/aggressive with carbon front splitter, carbon at the rear, N400 sills, it has a nicer interior than the basic standard Vantage etc & £20K cheaper than the V12. The car was purchased last Nov & still loving it. Maybe in the future i will go back to the V12 Vantage. Coupe for me has better looks but can also see having a roadster would be fun.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
if I was to buy again this is one I could be tempted with, limited edition as well as manual, lightweight seats as a bonus
if I was to buy again this is one I could be tempted with, limited edition as well as manual, lightweight seats as a bonus
I was really struggling to decide between a coupe and a roadster as I could save some money by going for the former. I ended up with a roadster.
One thing I have noticed is what a great convertible a Vantage is. I have had several open top cars over the years and I am surprised at how often I put the roof down in the Aston. You sit low down and snug in the cockpit so on days when you think it would be a bit nippy to drop the roof it's really very pleasant. I have a wind deflector too so that must help.
One thing I have noticed is what a great convertible a Vantage is. I have had several open top cars over the years and I am surprised at how often I put the roof down in the Aston. You sit low down and snug in the cockpit so on days when you think it would be a bit nippy to drop the roof it's really very pleasant. I have a wind deflector too so that must help.
I'm picking up a V12VS tomorrow but my research was nowhere as extensive as the original poster although I have asked some q's on here in other threads. I'm coming from a V10+ R8 (fabulous machine but wanted to try something new), to be honest my decision was between the V12 Vantage and a Cayman GT4. I drove the GT4 and thought it was really great and I was indeed close to pulling the trigger as I'd had a quick drive in the Vantage but the Auto mode was horrid and I didn't come away from the short drive so enthused. In fairness to the dealer they offered me an extended solo test drive (2 hrs) and driving in it sport mode on the paddles it started to make sense...I was sold no contest in truth. For me always gonna be the coupe didn't test drive the V8 but felt it might have been a little lacking in pace after coming from a V10 R8.
Your original post made me smile and took me back some 10 years when we were in a position to get an Aston (or similar). Our thoughts were very similar to yours and getting the Aston was a fantastic thing to do. Apart from the cars we have met some wonderful people through ownership and made some great friends.
We intended to get a V8VR when they first came out but at the last moment changed our minds and went for the coupe thinking that was the right decision. Loved the sound of the cars (the 4.3 was better sounding than the 4.7) but always felt that we had made the wrong decision on the coupe. We got a DB9V for a while (too quiet) and then the V12VR came along and we had the car we wanted. Lovely V12 sound and convertible to boot.
At your price range I would find it a really difficult decision to make. In fact I don't think you can make a wrong decision either a V8VR or a V12V would be a great choice. I guess it depends whether you are attracted by open top motoring or not? We basically drive ours roof down unless it is raining, whatever the temperature and love the noise that you hear, some of the country smells where we are not so much
As for comments - and as a balding person I should hear them - very, very few because I think people are too busy looking at the car!
What would we have done differently if we had known what we know now - probably have bought the roadster in the first place.
My advice try both and see what you think. You are just on the edge of V12VS money and I wouldn't totally discard one of those. I have had both and really enjoy driving the SS3 model - just drive on the paddles and not in "D"
I think of the two cars you are looking at the V12V will go down in history as one of the iconic modern Astons and that may be a consideration. What's not to like about the largest engine Aston do in their smallest model! which starts me thinking about watching Clarkson's TG review of the V12V when it first came out - again!
Enjoy the search and keep us updated with how you get on
We intended to get a V8VR when they first came out but at the last moment changed our minds and went for the coupe thinking that was the right decision. Loved the sound of the cars (the 4.3 was better sounding than the 4.7) but always felt that we had made the wrong decision on the coupe. We got a DB9V for a while (too quiet) and then the V12VR came along and we had the car we wanted. Lovely V12 sound and convertible to boot.
At your price range I would find it a really difficult decision to make. In fact I don't think you can make a wrong decision either a V8VR or a V12V would be a great choice. I guess it depends whether you are attracted by open top motoring or not? We basically drive ours roof down unless it is raining, whatever the temperature and love the noise that you hear, some of the country smells where we are not so much
As for comments - and as a balding person I should hear them - very, very few because I think people are too busy looking at the car!What would we have done differently if we had known what we know now - probably have bought the roadster in the first place.
My advice try both and see what you think. You are just on the edge of V12VS money and I wouldn't totally discard one of those. I have had both and really enjoy driving the SS3 model - just drive on the paddles and not in "D"
I think of the two cars you are looking at the V12V will go down in history as one of the iconic modern Astons and that may be a consideration. What's not to like about the largest engine Aston do in their smallest model! which starts me thinking about watching Clarkson's TG review of the V12V when it first came out - again!
Enjoy the search and keep us updated with how you get on
Chris Hinds said:
V8 Roadster and V12 Coupe are similar money, albeit the V12 would be older... has anyone driven the V12 and thought "actually I'm ok with just the V8"?
As a V12 owner I have to admit the amount of time I can keep my foot planted other than for a very few seconds is rare, I absolutely love it to bits though and won't be changing any time soon, it has a big heart for a thug.Oh and hasn't depreciated which is a bonus
It has cost me a bit in maintenance here and there but then it was £140k car new so I guess it goes with the territory.
Get a red one
Hi Everyone,
Thanks for such a huge mass of feedback - sorry for the delay in replying, work is unusually pressured today and I've barely had a chance to eat let alon look! Apologies if I don't reply to everything but I'll try and reply as best I can I'm really touched by the Aston community already!
You have certainly done your research and narrowed down your requirements. Love your comments about the other marques. How would you describe the perceived Aston Martin image?Hmm difficult one, I think I can perhaps best explain it by thinking about characters you might find at a party... and I should say I'm talking about how I perceive the car rather than the owner!
Lamborghini - Had half a dozen Vodka-Red Bull before going to the party, is now on Tequila. Loud shirt, sharp shoes, skinny jeans. "Doesn't smoke" (but has nicked a pack of Marlboro off someone and emptied it). Was out last night, out again tomorrow too. Annoys anyone quieter than them.
Ferrari - Immaculate appearance, centre of the party, showing off their diamond encrusted watch. Girlfriend is stunning and doesn't realise you can have clothing without a brand.
McLaren - Takes the cheque after the meal, divides it by individual tally without either using menu or calculator. Does the same with the tip. Accurate, precise and never uses three words when one would do. Only drinks Chilean Merlot.
Bentley - Can be found in a wing backed chair swigging vintage brandy. Refers to back garden as "Devon", which is just as well because that's about how big the car is.
Jaguar - Charms everyone, looks the part but you can't quite shake the feeling that they're trading a bit on past history. Has a quiet cigar when it thinks nobody is looking.
Aston Martin - People notices them pass by and are always willing to chat. Has a knack of making others feel better about themselves but doesn't do anything most people can put their finger on. Crucially, doesn't actually annoy anyone in any conversation.
Make sense?
Thanks for the advice on Leather colour, it's appreciated - I also wonder about widening my search to all 4.7 engine cars but looking for those with the additional options like Cruise, HID etc to increase my choices. Thanks for the idea of how long it took to find too... I wasn't sure if months was uncommon or not.
That is a stunning red - which shade is it? The ones I've seen before are deeper, more leather wingback chair than intense.
Thanks all and sorry for such a long reply!
Thanks for such a huge mass of feedback - sorry for the delay in replying, work is unusually pressured today and I've barely had a chance to eat let alon look! Apologies if I don't reply to everything but I'll try and reply as best I can
I'm really touched by the Aston community already!Jon39 said:
You have certainly done your research and narrowed down your requirements. Love your comments about the other marques. How would you describe the perceived Aston Martin image?
Lamborghini - Had half a dozen Vodka-Red Bull before going to the party, is now on Tequila. Loud shirt, sharp shoes, skinny jeans. "Doesn't smoke" (but has nicked a pack of Marlboro off someone and emptied it). Was out last night, out again tomorrow too. Annoys anyone quieter than them.
Ferrari - Immaculate appearance, centre of the party, showing off their diamond encrusted watch. Girlfriend is stunning and doesn't realise you can have clothing without a brand.
McLaren - Takes the cheque after the meal, divides it by individual tally without either using menu or calculator. Does the same with the tip. Accurate, precise and never uses three words when one would do. Only drinks Chilean Merlot.
Bentley - Can be found in a wing backed chair swigging vintage brandy. Refers to back garden as "Devon", which is just as well because that's about how big the car is.
Jaguar - Charms everyone, looks the part but you can't quite shake the feeling that they're trading a bit on past history. Has a quiet cigar when it thinks nobody is looking.
Aston Martin - People notices them pass by and are always willing to chat. Has a knack of making others feel better about themselves but doesn't do anything most people can put their finger on. Crucially, doesn't actually annoy anyone in any conversation.
Make sense?
Thanks for the advice on Leather colour, it's appreciated - I also wonder about widening my search to all 4.7 engine cars but looking for those with the additional options like Cruise, HID etc to increase my choices. Thanks for the idea of how long it took to find too... I wasn't sure if months was uncommon or not.
Bobajobbob said:
First up good choice. I completely agree with your logic and although we all like a shouty car from time to time an Aston is for life, not just for showing off.
I’ve owned an 07 4.3 Coupe Manual and now a 2013 4.7 Roadster manual. Both in tungsten silver with black interior. The coupe is definitely better looking when compared with Roadster roof up. Roof down I’d say they are both equally good looking. My roadster has all the new body kit which doesn’t have he purity of the original design but does make it look a little more aggressive and modern.
A lighter interior can reflect on the windscreen.
That combination sounds fantastic from a colour point of view and the tip about the lighter interior is just the sort of insight I was hoping to get - thanks I’ve owned an 07 4.3 Coupe Manual and now a 2013 4.7 Roadster manual. Both in tungsten silver with black interior. The coupe is definitely better looking when compared with Roadster roof up. Roof down I’d say they are both equally good looking. My roadster has all the new body kit which doesn’t have he purity of the original design but does make it look a little more aggressive and modern.
A lighter interior can reflect on the windscreen.
bogie said:
I had a coupe because thats all that was available at the time. Prefer the Roadster but could never justify the cost to change until a couple of years ago when I traded the coupe in for a 2012.25 Roadster. I love it, sounds great, looks perfect roof down, which is most of the time. Like yours would be its a sunny day car, although I do use it for work in nice weather. I just prefer open cars.
Drive both and see what you think - if you value the Roadster experience more than the extra shove of the V12......
I wouldn't be without heated seats in the Roadster (nice on cooler days)
Any of them for the right car. The dealer warranty may be more comprehensive (need to read the small print of any aftermarket warranty offered) and you may get slightly more car for your money at Indy, but I dont think there is that much in it really. The Aston indy network is very good. I would say the average standard at Indies overall is better than the average of dealers. Main dealers really are hit and miss in my experience. I would say I would go back to 2 dealers out of 7 ive used in 12 years, but would use all of the Indies ive used in the past for various things.
I'm happy with a plain black interior, although some of the more subdued two tone or contrast stitches are acceptable. Had a black coupe for 10 years, it looked awesome when clean, but didn't stay that way for long. My Roadster is Tungsten silver, which I really like. It changes colour a little on a sunny day, most importantly its really easy to look after, and stays looking clean for weeks rather than a few days.
How much I would become attached to it, I figured I would have got bored within a few years, but still love driving it now, it suits me and my usage perfectly
More recently when looking for the Roadster for about 6-9 months. I wanted a MY2012.25 manual with under 30k miles with some particular wheels that I prefer. It seemed were less than 1/2 dozen manual Roadsters in the country for sale so it took a while to find the right one.
Have fun looking, and post some pics up when you find "the one"
Sorry to have trimmed such a useful post so much but thank you so much for offering your thoughts on everything... so much of your logic and thinking aligns with some of my mind wanderings on the way to and from work Drive both and see what you think - if you value the Roadster experience more than the extra shove of the V12......
I wouldn't be without heated seats in the Roadster (nice on cooler days)
Any of them for the right car. The dealer warranty may be more comprehensive (need to read the small print of any aftermarket warranty offered) and you may get slightly more car for your money at Indy, but I dont think there is that much in it really. The Aston indy network is very good. I would say the average standard at Indies overall is better than the average of dealers. Main dealers really are hit and miss in my experience. I would say I would go back to 2 dealers out of 7 ive used in 12 years, but would use all of the Indies ive used in the past for various things.
I'm happy with a plain black interior, although some of the more subdued two tone or contrast stitches are acceptable. Had a black coupe for 10 years, it looked awesome when clean, but didn't stay that way for long. My Roadster is Tungsten silver, which I really like. It changes colour a little on a sunny day, most importantly its really easy to look after, and stays looking clean for weeks rather than a few days.
How much I would become attached to it, I figured I would have got bored within a few years, but still love driving it now, it suits me and my usage perfectly
More recently when looking for the Roadster for about 6-9 months. I wanted a MY2012.25 manual with under 30k miles with some particular wheels that I prefer. It seemed were less than 1/2 dozen manual Roadsters in the country for sale so it took a while to find the right one.
Have fun looking, and post some pics up when you find "the one"
dbs2000 said:
Probably the largest potential cost would be the carbon ceramic discs and pads vs the standard discs and pads on the v8.
I'd budgeted for the extra plugs/oil... but hadn't realised about the brakes. That could be expensive!Minglar said:
Your budget gives you plenty of options but I’m a little biased and would suggest a test drive in a V12V is a must before you decide. As stated earlier, many here have moved on to a V12V from a V8V. A test drive usually nails the decision. It’s been said many times, but if you drive one you will buy one. They really are very special cars, the like of which will probably never be seen again. Good luck finding your ideal car.
Thanks Minglar - that's one of the things that I've been mulling over, I can see both being special but for different reasons. Would an Aston Martin dealer think me awful to want to try driving both though?GameofCars said:
Great thread. After coming from a number of Porsche's i wanted something different. I also don't like getting rinsed on a car purchase so wanted a car that i wasn't going to lose a great deal. So that journey initially took me to the manual V12 Vantage - fairly rare & unlikely to fall much in value & more likely to increase. I strolled along to Aston Works - my nearest main dealer. I went out with a Pro Driver for over an hours drive in the V12Vantage. It was awesome but this was my first experience in an Aston - I was trying to take it all in & even just walking into Aston Works is an amazing experience in itself. The car was the best part of £85K - I could have stretched with extra finance but thats a lot of money for me. I was left unsure whether to pull the trigger tbh.. So next trip was to Aston Welwyn - I still wanted a Vantage that was a little bit different & also felt I needed to try at least another car before deciding. I test drove their MY2013 V8VS manual coupe. Loved it. To me it felt a little more nimble, still plenty of grunt from the 4.7. The 'S' also had for me the right balance of classic/aggressive with carbon front splitter, carbon at the rear, N400 sills, it has a nicer interior than the basic standard Vantage etc & £20K cheaper than the V12. The car was purchased last Nov & still loving it. Maybe in the future i will go back to the V12 Vantage. Coupe for me has better looks but can also see having a roadster would be fun.
The more of these stories I read the more I think I need to spend more time confidently going into some dealers and specialists and getting to know what's there. The more I think back on Nottingham Aston Martin the less inclined I am to give them money unless it really it "like I'd spec myself". Sounds like I need to drive south a bit to Newport Pagnell as a starting point!steveway said:
I love the wheels on this one - it's one of the biggest draws to the V12 for me... so smart!Phil74891 said:
I would stretch to a V12Vantage coupe. The one above looks great. Or for a bit more try a V12VS. Don’t write off the Sportshift gearbox until you try it.
I have to confess the one thing I am set on is manual - I've driven 2 pedals daily for nearly a decade and feel like if I'm buying the last analogue sports car it should be completely analogue... the votes aren't half stacking up for the v12 though!Ian350 said:
I was really struggling to decide between a coupe and a roadster as I could save some money by going for the former. I ended up with a roadster.
One thing I have noticed is what a great convertible a Vantage is. I have had several open top cars over the years and I am surprised at how often I put the roof down in the Aston. You sit low down and snug in the cockpit so on days when you think it would be a bit nippy to drop the roof it's really very pleasant. I have a wind deflector too so that must help.
Then I read this and go - I'd be in a convertible Aston Martin. An actual Aston Martin!One thing I have noticed is what a great convertible a Vantage is. I have had several open top cars over the years and I am surprised at how often I put the roof down in the Aston. You sit low down and snug in the cockpit so on days when you think it would be a bit nippy to drop the roof it's really very pleasant. I have a wind deflector too so that must help.
RSbandit said:
I'm picking up a V12VS tomorrow
Have a blinking fantastic 31st May and share the pictures!IanV12VSRs said:
Your original post made me smile and took me back some 10 years when we were in a position to get an Aston (or similar). Our thoughts were very similar to yours and getting the Aston was a fantastic thing to do. Apart from the cars we have met some wonderful people through ownership and made some great friends.
We intended to get a V8VR when they first came out but at the last moment changed our minds and went for the coupe thinking that was the right decision. Loved the sound of the cars (the 4.3 was better sounding than the 4.7) but always felt that we had made the wrong decision on the coupe. We got a DB9V for a while (too quiet) and then the V12VR came along and we had the car we wanted. Lovely V12 sound and convertible to boot.
At your price range I would find it a really difficult decision to make. In fact I don't think you can make a wrong decision either a V8VR or a V12V would be a great choice. I guess it depends whether you are attracted by open top motoring or not? We basically drive ours roof down unless it is raining, whatever the temperature and love the noise that you hear, some of the country smells where we are not so much As for comments - and as a balding person I should hear them - very, very few because I think people are too busy looking at the car!
What would we have done differently if we had known what we know now - probably have bought the roadster in the first place.
My advice try both and see what you think. You are just on the edge of V12VS money and I wouldn't totally discard one of those. I have had both and really enjoy driving the SS3 model - just drive on the paddles and not in "D"
I think of the two cars you are looking at the V12V will go down in history as one of the iconic modern Astons and that may be a consideration. What's not to like about the largest engine Aston do in their smallest model! which starts me thinking about watching Clarkson's TG review of the V12V when it first came out - again!
Enjoy the search and keep us updated with how you get on
Glad my thoughts resonate with others too - like I said at the top I'm so touched by the community response in 24 hours! I'm weeks-months away from getting a car and already I'm hopping with excitement like a little kid!We intended to get a V8VR when they first came out but at the last moment changed our minds and went for the coupe thinking that was the right decision. Loved the sound of the cars (the 4.3 was better sounding than the 4.7) but always felt that we had made the wrong decision on the coupe. We got a DB9V for a while (too quiet) and then the V12VR came along and we had the car we wanted. Lovely V12 sound and convertible to boot.
At your price range I would find it a really difficult decision to make. In fact I don't think you can make a wrong decision either a V8VR or a V12V would be a great choice. I guess it depends whether you are attracted by open top motoring or not? We basically drive ours roof down unless it is raining, whatever the temperature and love the noise that you hear, some of the country smells where we are not so much
As for comments - and as a balding person I should hear them - very, very few because I think people are too busy looking at the car!What would we have done differently if we had known what we know now - probably have bought the roadster in the first place.
My advice try both and see what you think. You are just on the edge of V12VS money and I wouldn't totally discard one of those. I have had both and really enjoy driving the SS3 model - just drive on the paddles and not in "D"
I think of the two cars you are looking at the V12V will go down in history as one of the iconic modern Astons and that may be a consideration. What's not to like about the largest engine Aston do in their smallest model! which starts me thinking about watching Clarkson's TG review of the V12V when it first came out - again!
Enjoy the search and keep us updated with how you get on
JaseB said:
Thanks all and sorry for such a long reply!
JaseB said:
As a V12 owner I have to admit the amount of time I can keep my foot planted other than for a very few seconds is rare, I absolutely love it to bits though and won't be changing any time soon, it has a big heart for a thug.
Oh and hasn't depreciated which is a bonus
It has cost me a bit in maintenance here and there but then it was £140k car new so I guess it goes with the territory.
Get a red one
It’s very rare I get car envy but that is just beautiful. I can’t stop looking at it! Oh and hasn't depreciated which is a bonus
It has cost me a bit in maintenance here and there but then it was £140k car new so I guess it goes with the territory.
Get a red one
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So picked this beaut up today oh man it's true love 😀, just so much charisma and the noise is really special especially at lower revs ( defo one area where it's better than the V10 R8 that had to be wound out a bit to sing). I've work commitments and I'm going on hols on Sat so haven't really spent much time in the car today unfortunately ... taking it to the Ring in Sep but I'm thrilled with it what a car.
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